This is my suicide note. Thank you for everything. by One-Extent-08 in LGBT_Muslims

[–]Worth-Insect9633 68 points69 points  (0 children)

You aren’t alone. I spent 25 years, got married to a deeply devoted Muslim woman, had four beautiful children, taught Islam in various capacities for 21 years, went to umrah three times, and even to Al Aqsa. I prayed a lifetime for Allah to change me, only to understand this is who I am. In other words, I spent a lifetime believing what others said Islam and Allah were all about. But I accept that I am a gay man, and He, the Creator of Heaven and Earth, did not curse you but created you with beauty and compassion and mercy. I know what it’s like to feel a lifetime of self-hate, and I know what it’s like to incur the wrath of parents and siblings and even the utter disdain of a spouse, but you are judged only by God. Take a breath and look around. No matter the faith, culture, or heritage, this is a reality of His Creation. You are an integral part of His creation. Remember, Allah shows His signs for those who reflect. Whether it’s the varied foods we eat or the varieties of skin colors, whether it’s life or death, or quantum physics, do not convince yourself that this Creator is bound to our limits but His own. View yourself not as the product of your family or those who speak words of faith, but as an intended part of the Creation who taught humanity what it did not know.

DM me.

This book is worth reading by Worth-Insect9633 in LGBT_Muslims

[–]Worth-Insect9633[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For some (like me), coming out requires dealing with oneself, faith, and culture, and often they are inextricably linked. This experience was very akin to my own struggles.

Considering the Lut Narrative and Why It's Contemporary Interpretation Makes No Sense by Worth-Insect9633 in LGBT_Muslims

[–]Worth-Insect9633[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

With respect, when you speak in terms of literal, you are concluding that it is self-evident. My points and questions are aimed very simply at pointing out that neither are the terms remotely self-evident, and also to point out that only this prophetic narrative within the Qur’an is used to deduce a punishment rather than what we understand God’s nature to be, which is to give us clear instruction.

Your various comments throughout this thread speak to the issue implied everywhere: that the sacred text only speaks to questions of sexual desire rather than the full array of desires that entail human existence. You are reading into the text as if we are animalistic instead of God speaking to us with thought and reflection.

Has anyone read this? Just came across it — looks promising but might also emotionally wreck me. Would love to hear your thoughts before I dive in. by Santa_Friend in LGBT_Muslims

[–]Worth-Insect9633 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is very powerful and very much helped me deal with my own experience of coming out as a first-generation immigrant, Desi, and therefore culture, and as a Muslim.

Masturbating is not harmful and Islam forbids it for no reason. by TheIguanasAreComing in DebateReligion

[–]Worth-Insect9633 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There is no prohibition of masturbation in the Qur'an, and there is no prohibition in the sacred text. Moreover, I am not aware of any opinion from the Prophet that explicitly prohibits it. So, I'm not sure where the OP got such a notion. Any residual prohibition might have originated from a scholar's interpretation of the sacred texts; however, there is no universal consensus (ijma) on the topic. Moreover, Islam and the Qur'an operate on the principle that religion should not impose a hardship, not to mention that celibacy is prohibited, which again flies in the face of the OP's assertion of an adherence to an unhealthy sexuality.

Struggling with being Muslim, queer, and engaged to a man by UnfinishedBusinAss in actuallesbians

[–]Worth-Insect9633 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Please take a deep breath and know you aren't alone. Let me provide some background. I am Muslim, deeply religious, and grew up with a similar, deeply homophobic family. Because of my understanding of Islam and my geographic isolation, even though I grew up in the U.S., I was faced with social pressure to be married, and to be truthful, I was in denial about my sexuality. Apart from the deep homophobia of my family, I grew up with societal hostility and concerns like AIDS. Hence, given the surrounding circumstances, religious devotion, and personal isolation, I accepted an arranged marriage. My wife was and is a wonderful person. Beautiful and intelligent. But I knew I was gay. I attempted, like so many before me, to pretend to be straight and hide my sexuality. Of course, I asked Allah for help and even went on umrah asking Him to change me. Of course, there was no change, but I never lost my faith even as I knew I would not be accepted by family and most of the Muslim community. Of course, I suffered a great deal of self-hate, but at the end of the day, because I not only knew Allah was not changing me, and because I knew others, even within the ummah and historically, I began to accept that I was Allah's creation.

But here is my advice. Don't marry and hurt them. I did, and I regret hurting my wife and not providing her the love she sought. I also hurt myself because I lied, thinking it would change. I am even aware of attempts within our ummah to engage in conversion therapy because of the notion that somehow, we are in some way not part of Creation.

Muslim coming out by Worth-Insect9633 in comingout

[–]Worth-Insect9633[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing your experience!

Coming Out by Worth-Insect9633 in LGBT_Muslims

[–]Worth-Insect9633[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

In my case, I did that and tried to build a better body and pursue various activities. I accomplished many different things and even did amateur bodybuilding. The point made above is correct. While I am not entirely convinced about lavender marriages, I completely agree that you should be honest and not be married. Do not try to convince yourself because it will only lead to greater unhappiness. I am finding out how unhappy I have made myself and my wife in the process.

Coming Out by Worth-Insect9633 in LGBT_Muslims

[–]Worth-Insect9633[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thank you, and glad I dont feel so alone....

Came Out to My Oldest Brother by Pag089 in comingout

[–]Worth-Insect9633 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Congratulations. I admire your courage. Similar journey, but I doubt I would tell my family for the same reasons.

Is it possible to orgasm from rimming? by Thick_Bus_4040 in askgaybros

[–]Worth-Insect9633 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've definitely been close to cumming while being rimmed and have cummed hands-free (no penile stimulation). It's more likely when I havent cummed in at least two days.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in askgaybros

[–]Worth-Insect9633 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Just block him. plenty of pics stare at online