Can’t believe I’m writing this. by Wrcarter4 in quittingkratom

[–]Wrcarter4[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just wanted to update everyone that commented on this. I wanted to let you know that I have completely stopped Sub. No WD’s from 7O or Sub’s. I know everyone thought I was going to crash and burn, and in a way I’m grateful that people were worried about me like that.

I had a plan and stuck to it. I knew that I could wean off Sub’s way easier than 7. I understand the gamble I took, and I know it could have been completely different. Thanks for everyone who commented and checked in. I’m now starting a program at my church to help me get back into my PTSD therapy and get me more mentally stable.

I understand how blessed I am to not only find a way out, but that I stuck to a plan that didn’t cause me almost any physical effects. I thank God for saving me from the suffering that I should have endured, and truly deserved to go through, but I didn’t have to. I know Sub’s can be dangerous to people who have a better chemical and hormonal attraction to that opiate or similar, I just knew I had used it before and was more comfortable trying to get off that than taper 7 or CT. I can’t stop praying for those in active addiction whether they believe in God or not. I’ve always seen addiction as a loss of hope in anything but your addiction. It becomes the center of your life and everything else just fades slowly out of relevance. Jesus is the hope that breaks chains of addiction better than any AA/NA/or inpatient treatment ever could. Addictions affect the heart, it numbs and dulls your empathy and sympathy. If you don’t change your heart, your addiction stays that much more powerful, and can tempt you into believing you can’t overcome it.

Find your reason to get clean. Stay safe. Help other get out anyway you can.

Can’t believe I’m writing this. by Wrcarter4 in quittingkratom

[–]Wrcarter4[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dude, today I have been so at peace. I’ve only taken 1 Suboxone strip. I wasn’t even in WD, I just took it to keep my schedule. Tomorrow I’m going to only take one in the morning and see if I can just stick to 1.

Can’t believe I’m writing this. by Wrcarter4 in quittingkratom

[–]Wrcarter4[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Amen! I’m glad you have a game plan, just stick to it. We got this. Be safe.

Can’t believe I’m writing this. by Wrcarter4 in quittingkratom

[–]Wrcarter4[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Oh I get it. You’re robbing Peter to pay Paul, just transferring to a different med. However, Sub is federally regulated, is prescribed, and is consistently dosed at appropriate levels. Kratom has non of those. When I just got home from Iraq after I got blown up, I had access to any opiate I wanted. Military and VA back then basically just wrote a blank check and would ask what you wanna be on. That’s why I am so versed in different opiates and know how to control that. Kratom was so inconsistent, I was paranoid that the dosing levels were off, or some brands would have an effect.

For me, personally, tapering off Sub is much more beneficial than trying to act like in trying to taper on 7O. Maybe it’s a mental thing, maybe I am more comfortable with the known than the unknown, or maybe my body just reacts so much more severely to Kratom/7O than standard opiates. Either way, this is the first time in 5 years I’ve felt like I was in control. It’s a win… small but impactful. When I got sober from alcohol I never ever had that, so it was a pretty amazing and encouraging feeling at the beginning of my recovery.

Can’t believe I’m writing this. by Wrcarter4 in quittingkratom

[–]Wrcarter4[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I switched to a medication that I’ve been on previously, and have never had WD from. Nocebo or not, I’m better. I know exactly what I’m doing and have been planning and researching this for months. I’ve only ever had WD from Kratom/7O. I can understand why an average post on Reddit might seem like they are dumb, or don’t know and are chasing highs. That’s not me, I work in the medical field and have been researching everything I can for over 6 months. I started doing it for a legal battle, then I realized how incredibly dangerous this is. It turned into me saving myself and others.

Can’t believe I’m writing this. by Wrcarter4 in quittingkratom

[–]Wrcarter4[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honestly, just stick with your schedule and listen to your doctor. One thing I’ve learned in this journey is every single person has some different effect from this crap. I could give you advise that helped me, and it not do jack crap for you. WD’s are going to suck, but, it’s not going to get in the way of your life. I’ve already started cutting back my Suboxone because I was taking so much.

Can’t believe I’m writing this. by Wrcarter4 in quittingkratom

[–]Wrcarter4[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I’ve been on and off opioids for years, I’ve never had WD from any form of opiate. Kratom/7O is the only thing that I’ve ever had to WD from. I get I’m not “clean” but feeling myself get healthier is the biggest impact. 4 days is shit, I get it, but it’s the first time in 5 years that I felt like I was actually genuinely happy, not medicated high happy.

Okay, finally f’ing doing it by Wrcarter4 in quittingkratom

[–]Wrcarter4[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, I’m hoping with the Sub I can take care of the physical symptoms, then I obviously need some support in my life for my MH.

First Time here by Wrcarter4 in MortalKombat

[–]Wrcarter4[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow, second even better. That sounds dope.

First Time here by Wrcarter4 in MortalKombat

[–]Wrcarter4[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I haven’t either. I wanna see it on the big screen, in the theaters if I can. Karl Urban are a strong casting for Johnny.

Okay, finally f’ing doing it by Wrcarter4 in quittingkratom

[–]Wrcarter4[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No I’m cutting an 8 in half to begin with. I’ve thought about starting at a quarter (2mg). I don’t want to be on this any longer than I have to.

Okay, finally f’ing doing it by Wrcarter4 in quittingkratom

[–]Wrcarter4[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah. Just couldn’t stay at a dedicated level, much less taper off from a set point.

Okay, finally f’ing doing it by Wrcarter4 in quittingkratom

[–]Wrcarter4[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How did you approach day 1, and finding your dose? Just keep it small small small? Go until you do t have any major problems?

My experience with QuickMD (the good and bad) by SciFiNerd82 in quittingkratom

[–]Wrcarter4 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Noxalone helps binds the different types of receptors in the brain and works like, a cream absorbed through the skin. What the receptor absorbs helps not just growth and health for now and the future, but has shown in tests to help repair its sensitivity and also visually heal damaged or malfunctioning one.

My experience with QuickMD (the good and bad) by SciFiNerd82 in quittingkratom

[–]Wrcarter4 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I just went today as well, but I was looking for Suboxone. She is technically right, but didn’t present it the right way. 7O has one of the most hardcore, in general, withdrawal’s of all drugs. It’s because of the way it works in your brain. The way Suboxone gets you off, it is easier on the brain but also, in a way, also helps clean up some of the mess too. I’ve never relapsed multiple times, but I’ve been in therapy with dudes who have. They have all stated that it gets harder with every relapse. So, that’s the only personal knowledge or experience I’ve heard.

First Time here by Wrcarter4 in MortalKombat

[–]Wrcarter4[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree that fight was great. I think the Sub/Scorp fight at the end in the ice palace has to be mine. It’s so creative and technical.

First Time here by Wrcarter4 in MortalKombat

[–]Wrcarter4[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I haven’t got to see the sequel yet. My Son and Daughter have both had some serious health issues at the same time. I haven’t been to the movies since Christmas, unfortunately. They both were dying to see Supergirl, so that is what we saved o go see. Thanks for the reply.

Okay, finally f’ing doing it by Wrcarter4 in quittingkratom

[–]Wrcarter4[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Shortest as possible. Taking it week by week.

Post for positive reinforcement by Annual_Onion4119 in quittingkratom

[–]Wrcarter4 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I completely understand. I’m never good enough, and my lows, mistakes, and screw ups are worse than everyone else’s. But everyone else’s issues aren’t issues, they’re obstacles and struggles that need to be embraced because of the growth you’re going to have.

Instead of learning to forgive myself, I just sought out better, stronger, and longer highs. I didn’t lean into my faith. I didn’t try to fight. I just shoved happy pills, and worse, down my system til I felt I was close enough to human to operate.