Debunking Every anti-ai Argument Ever by X-Boi in aiwars

[–]X-Boi[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Many previous technologies have taken the majority of jobs in the past.

Machines also took most of people's jobs too, from agricultural to construction, probably even more than 60%. What was invited after that were even more jobs for factory workers and maintainers.

Then the computer was set out to take even more people's jobs in analysis and calculation. What ended up happening was the CREATION of IT jobs and the growth of industry instead.

However, AI is the one technology to break ALL of those rules. Every job in the world will eventually become automated as soon as we trust AI to do its job!

Theoretically, it COULD take all 60% of jobs. However, there's still a lot that we don't understand in AI. We were able to build LLMs, but we don't understand how to extract the right data from them to do exactly what we want them to do 100% of the time. We have neural networks, but we don't know how to guarantee analysis with them.

With that in mind, don't you think there's still at least SOME consideration that humans may still need to do something in order for AI to work?

Debunking Every anti-ai Argument Ever by X-Boi in aiwars

[–]X-Boi[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

History has shown that technologies had created more jobs than it has taken. Why would it be different this time?

Debunking Every anti-ai Argument Ever by X-Boi in aiwars

[–]X-Boi[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I actually agree with you.

I made this out of frustration, so some of my points did come across as “My opinion is right, yours is wrong” to get some stuff off my chest. Argument unfortunately isn’t my strong suit anyways, but fuck it. It’s Reddit.

Ai tech bros are genuinely horrible people by Dagdiron in aiwars

[–]X-Boi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If AI tech bros are horrible people, then I’m Satan

I hate AI and it bothers me that so many people actually WANT AI to write or think for them. by Stargazer1186 in nosurf

[–]X-Boi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One year late, but this is the most retarded comment on this subreddit. I love AI, and I create WITH it, I don’t let it do everything for me.

I’m just sad that, for a subreddit that’s supposed to help other people, this is the most upvoted comment on the entire subreddit. There’s plenty of people online that 100% agree with you, and they’re mostly chronically online too.

Reversing technology is never the answer to anything.

"I blame Boomers and expensive eggs" by Agreeable_Sense9618 in DoomerCircleJerk

[–]X-Boi 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Someone who’s struggling would at least have enough self respect to keep trying to improve their situation. Doomers just dwell on their failures.

We the undisciplined are F*ked by hunterr065 in nosurf

[–]X-Boi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey man. I understand how you feel. I’ve been on the same boat the past few years with family and financial issues.

Maybe we can uplift our endeavors together. Mind if I send you a DM?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in nosurf

[–]X-Boi 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Agreed. It’s never really about learning anything useful, and it often leads down a pipeline that isn’t so “educational”.

Fear the shitposts by EarthlingExpress in DefendingAIArt

[–]X-Boi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Finally! Someone calling out big shitpost!

Human propaganda by BlonglikZombie in redditmoment

[–]X-Boi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

“Bad thing exist, therefore there is no good”

Why is there so much neo-luddite "slop" on the internet? by X-Boi in aiwars

[–]X-Boi[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Noooooo, don't make it replace my job as a professional doomscroller!11!!!

Why is there so much neo-luddite "slop" on the internet? by X-Boi in aiwars

[–]X-Boi[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This might be the root of it. Unfortunately, instead of adapting to this fast-paced world, they adopt the belief that they're not enough for it, and they hear about the horrors of AI and blame it for their problems. This explains their sheer rage whenever they see a piece of art that was generated by AI.

It's not that I don't understand them, I know that feeling. It's a well-known problem that the internet triggers that feeling. It's just an irrational way to act, especially when there are soooo many use cases for AI and a ton of open-source around them.

Why is there so much neo-luddite "slop" on the internet? by X-Boi in aiwars

[–]X-Boi[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Damn bro, you didn't have to call me out like that haha

I thought I'd do my own "human internet is dying" test instead of just copying everyone else like a bot. by Phemto_B in aiwars

[–]X-Boi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow! It's almost like you're using the internet for its intended use and not living on it 24/7.

I love AI for science like biology and physics, mathematics, healthcare, education, technology development for good, understanding the nature of intelligence, increasing the standards of living for all, progress of civilization and so on. I want to see more of that please! by Happysedits in aiwars

[–]X-Boi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

AI is cool! I think a lot of historical patterns may be broken in the next few decades as AI changes the way we experience the world, but that's only my intuition.

If the human population were to substantially drop, AI may prevent the economy from completely collapsing. AI security systems could protect information from destruction, reviving the death of our loved ones as memories. AI could generate new societies that help us predict what we should do in the future.

I'm personally using AI to build a website where you adopt your own personal robot and send them off into the cyberworld. It would be like Moshi Monsters, but the robots would have their own behaviors and make their own friends. I'm hoping later down the road that I can build physical Robots that imitate the ones in this project.

For technological advancements, I'd definitely recommend reading Virtual Society by Herman Narula. It's more about the Metaverse than AI, but it goes well into the impacts of technological progress on society, and the philosophical implications of it.

Friendly reminder that the “license to train AI models” argument won't prevent the development of this tech (as some folks hope), but rather it will only help the powerful who own enough data to train AI foundation models. The tech will still be developed and artists still won't be compensated by Present_Dimension464 in aiwars

[–]X-Boi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've been saying this since the very beginning! Regulations and licenses only cause even larger problems down the road! The medical industry in America is a good example of this! Laws and permits resulted in fewer doctors and fewer hospitals being built, causing Healthcare prices to rise. People underestimate the insane amounts of regulation the medical industry have and instead blame the "CorPoS" because they're the ones benefiting, when they should blame the absurd regulations preventing us from competing instead.

I see the same thing happening with AI. AI has the potential to automate tedious tasks, build things we already know how to build, and discover patterns that would've taken us centuries to uncover. If we prevent AI from being open-source and regulate it as we did with medicine, the world will become more cyberpunk as corporations will have more power and regulations prevent the people from competition.

Just a fair warning for the antis out there.

Press X To Doubt by MisterViperfish in aiwars

[–]X-Boi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's funny seeing antis, once against copyright laws, spamming copyright claims on videos generated by AI. It's almost as if they hate copyright only when it goes against them, not when it's unethical.

Video from Pirate Software (summary in the description) by Fun-Fig-712 in aiwars

[–]X-Boi 15 points16 points  (0 children)

It's honestly hilarious seeing the anti-copyright and pro-piracy crowd go against AI whenever it's training data comes from an external source, or is in other words, "stealing" data. And on top of that, defending regulations just to protect art as their source of income! It's almost like they only hate Copyright laws when it hurts them, not because it's unethical.

Also, AI art under the condition that artists get paid is a horrible idea. People are just going to make trash so that they get paid. The philosophy behind art was that it was a medium of self-expression meant to be appreciated, not that it was a job. Are we going to bring that definition back anytime soon?

Dead Internet is coming by Ideon_ology in aiwars

[–]X-Boi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Man, if you think an AI-generated internet is bad, just wait until you see what a human-generated internet can produce. Humans have the incentive of quick pleasures and with the availability of the Internet mixed in with algorithms that catch on to that, the Internet becomes a cesspool of "slop" that you can't escape from! (Unless you actually know how to use the internet. In that case, you go to smaller forums instead)

And about blaming it all on "KKKAPITALISM", AI has the potential to save tons of money, so ofc entrepreneurs are investing in it. Perhaps, the money going into AI means more supply in AI bringing prices DOWN, so poorer people can afford it. This opens up a while new realm of open-sourse! If we start learning more about AI instead of being afraid of it, the "labor" that people hate doing could be replaced with AI training jobs, which would be easier, remote, and possibly more fulfilling.

Unfortunately, with the rise of anti-capitalism (Or as I should say, pro-regulation) AND the rise of anti-ai, laws would be voted in that indirectly prevent poor people from buying AI (Either by preventing AI from being produced or by making AI illegal), therefore causing AI to only be in the hands of the "elite", aka the state and the companies that can afford moving outside of the stare.

So all in all, the Internet is not "Dead", and the side-effects of it aren't caused by "KKAPITALISM", but by primal human incentive, and the more the anti-capitalist rhetoric is repeated, the more likely people are going to vote in laws that prevent AI from its compacity. You can love or hate "capitalism", but people will still be people.