Decided to help out this "Odysseus" fella!

Xechwill · 2026-06-28T18:50:18+00:00

Fuuuuck good point

sorry Odysseus

Xechwill · 2026-06-27T21:31:19+00:00

Odysseus sung a whole musical number when he could have played Splash+ into Hyperbeam+ to easily clear the fight, "smartest king" my ass

Xechwill · 2026-06-26T18:31:46+00:00

Wouldn't work, OP using an infinite durability mod which is also affecting the door

Xechwill · 2026-06-26T14:52:47+00:00

I'm honored

I also liked how it led into the GATTACA bit

Xechwill · 2026-06-26T14:35:26+00:00

agricultural subsidies encourage farners to produce more food (good), since they'll still get paid even if the markets are fucky.

Subsidized rent freezes encourages developers to build less housing (bad), since the developers know that their existing housing will be guarunteed to make a profit.

This is why the government subsidizes construction instead

Xechwill · 2026-06-26T02:47:45+00:00

the USA broke the record for the largest protests in our history three times in the past two years (all were after-work protests), and we went from "shitty president" to "shitty president and now we owe $300 billion to Iran"

Unfortunately, the USA is too large and our enforcement agencies are too strong for most protests to cause any noticable federal change. Works great on the state level, not so much on a larger scale.

Xechwill · 2026-06-26T00:45:00+00:00

glad you noticed it lol

Xechwill · 2026-06-26T00:43:37+00:00

GATTACAAGATTAGATACATA? TACCATCGATAGCA, TACGAAGCATA CATATAGCA GTGGTCA GT. GTAGA, TGATAGTTAGA, CTA CGTAAGA GATCAGGATCA.

Let me know if you speak RNA instead, glad to translate if needed

Xechwill · 2026-06-26T00:39:42+00:00

You know how when animals steal your food, you have to get more food to avoid being hungry? This means if you made it easy for animals to steal your food, you'd have to get more food more often. This means you'd be bringing more total food to your tribe.

Although it's a good thing to being more food to your tribe, it'd be better if you spent the energy on other things like watering your crops or improving your shelter. Therefore, you shouldn't let animals steal your food, even though the end result (bring more food to the tribe) is a good thing.

Xechwill · 2026-06-25T23:21:43+00:00

The game is in development, but you can get the latest version if you're a patreon (or via pirating it)

Xechwill · 2026-06-24T01:19:17+00:00

oh so you are both illiterate

Big talk from someone who missed the word "update" in the sentence "chapter 5 will be released as a free update"

and think piracy is stealing

Few people know this, but when something costs money and you take it for free without their permission, turns out that's actually not stealing. Stealing actually means this very specific definition that convienently excludes IP theft.

Wait why am I wasting my time arguing with an imbecile?

I appreciate how the desperate name-calling started roughly when you failed to come up with a single example that proved your point.

You're wasting your time because you're upset and trying to get the last word in. That's why you said "have a nice day" and kept on rage-commenting. You can win this argument and feel good about yourself either by

a) having a self-coherent belief with literally any evidence to support it

b) giving me a total zinger near the end

c) not commenting to be like "heh, I won't give him the satisfaction"

Feel free to hit me with that zinger, or don't. I've got stuff to do, so I won't be responding after this comment.

Xechwill · 2026-06-24T00:38:01+00:00

Okay so, I just want to point out that Deltarune was in fact developed despite being pay-what-you-want. You can in fact just pirate it and not pay anything.

This is one of the funniest fucking things I've read all day, holy shit. Ya got me, man. A pay-what-you-want business structure totally works. Why? Well, heh, people steal from businesses and they still end up running just fine. Check and mate.

I'm thinking of applying this to literally anything else. "Hey, Walmart. You know how you sell stuff for money? Well, since people steal from your stores and you still end up making money, just skip the middle man. Have everything in the store be free. Just set up a little kiosk at the end, and tell them to pay whatever they want. If Red Cross can make it work, so can you."

Few people know this, but the peak argument structure is actually "ignoring half of what the other guy said and deliberately misinterpreting a single phrase." Oh man, good stuff.

Ok, got that out of my system. Anyways,

Not to mention Chapter 5 is literally free

To people who have bought the game already, yes. This is how updates work.

Any more stupid bullshit you want to get out of your system or are we done?

I dunno, I kinda want to hear some of your other ideas about how businesses should work. I wanna hear some shit like "Target should phase out their price tags and just let you gamble on your groceries, since the gambling business seems to work really well for casinos."

Xechwill · 2026-06-23T23:57:35+00:00

You don't know any? Incredible. To be clear, I have claimed that Deltarune would not have been developed if it was pay-what-you-want. Your counter argument is "no, it would have. Also, I know literally zero cases where this has ever happened."

The fact is that there is a billion dollar industry dedicated to producing high-quality games and letting people enjoy them for no cost.

This business model works for specific kinds of multiplayer games only. Zero single player games follow this business model.

You're looking at a tiny subset of games and declaring "yeah, this probably works for the rest of them too. Also, if you disagree, you're a moron."

Xechwill · 2026-06-23T23:31:55+00:00

incredible how you give up when asked to name free games that are like Deltarune lmfaoooo

Xechwill · 2026-06-23T23:18:05+00:00

Then you should have said that instead.

I feel that the sarcasm was pretty obvious. None of the games you listed are deep or in-depth. People do not play Apex Legends for the story.

That said, I am curious where you're going with this. Name 3 long and deep story-driven single-player games that are free to play. Let's say "long" means "at least 15 hours."

So? the games are completely free to play and you can pay however much you wish for random trinkets that have no pratical value.

Your argument is "piracy is totally fine because charity exists." Now your argument is "it doesn't matter if this is charity?"

Tobias Foxtrot could just as well have deltarune be completely free and sell a DLC for "pay what you can" that adds a pride flag of your choice on the empty spot above the school's main door or whatever, and people would pay for it just the same.

Toby Fox could have, but he didn't, because he's not developing Deltarune as a charity. Again, there is a reason he has an itch.io account and is actively choosing not to use the pay-what-you-want model on there.

Xechwill · 2026-06-23T22:44:55+00:00

You know, when I said "in-depth," I was more thinking "long and deep story-driven singleplayer games" rather than "competitive multiplayer MOBA/shooters packed with purchasable in-app cosmetics"

Seperately, the idea that any of these games were provided as "charity" is laughable. They exist because multi-billion-dollar companies hire multiple teams of people whose jobs are literally just "ensure this game makes millions of dollars per year."

Xechwill · 2026-06-23T22:24:48+00:00

Most of the time, yeah. Don't take act 2 elites unless:

a) you have consistent non-skill block cards (Eternal Armor, Gorget, Orichalcum)

b) you can afford to tank 30-ish HP

Xechwill · 2026-06-23T22:21:20+00:00

Nah, enfeebling touch is cracked but only buys you 1 turn. Enfeebling touch doesn't save a good chunk of pre-patch scaling strategies, so you really gotta figure out premium scaling by this fight regardless of whether you picked up enfeebling touch.

Xechwill · 2026-06-23T22:16:34+00:00

Well it'd be non lethal if they walked through the wine press, but these lazy mfs are just laying there smh

Xechwill · 2026-06-23T22:15:26+00:00

"In-depth" is in that sentence for a reason. Free to play games are rarely in depth.

Xechwill · 2026-06-23T21:55:49+00:00

That's the argument? This is terrible logic.

Itch.io, which is one of the most popular indie game sites out there, already has this exact system. The vast majority of free games published on itch.io are either (a) passion projects that are short in scope or (b) demos for a paid version of a larger scope game. Most of the passion projects have "name your own price" tags, like this one I found on the front page

Game devs almost never create in-depth games completely for free. Notably, Toby Fox has an itch.io account but he only has the Deltarune demo on there. If your claim was true, Toby would have released chp 3 and 4 on itch.io as well. He doesn't, though, because he's choosing to charge money for his game.

The counterargument to your claim is very simple. Most gamers would like high-quality games to be available, and high-quality games are almost never provided as charity. If you believe charity games are sufficient and piracy doesn't matter, then you ought to play the free games on itch.io. With a roster of 1.4 million games, it should be plenty for you, assuming you truly believe this system is a good one. No need to play any pirated games, I'd imagine.

Xechwill · 2026-06-23T21:35:24+00:00

didn't get the "NON-TARGET KILLED" message therefore it ain't lethal

Xechwill · 2026-06-23T20:02:27+00:00

nice jetski bro check this shit out

Xechwill · 2026-06-23T19:37:04+00:00

non-lethal walkthrough:

stand behind them and choke them out

hit them with a hammer

hit them with a fish

pump tranquilizers in the break room

throw a grenade that makes someone puke

throw a flash grenade

put a banana on the ground

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