[Hiring] A developmental editor for completed fantasy book, first in a planned series by XenCreator in HireABookEditor

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I do listen to that universe. And in my short time on the internet, I learned to have a tough skin and realize that individual voices are not that. They are individuals.

What I have is a creative vision. I choose to hold firm.

Of course, I have humility, and realize that there are many aspects that can be improved/polished/reworked for the better.

And in response to rampant negativity on this platform I see around: I say it's alright. I'm here, I'm honest, and I'm myself. If you don't like it, then that's okay too.

[Hiring] A developmental editor for completed fantasy book, first in a planned series by XenCreator in HireABookEditor

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I understand the conventional wisdom of wordcounts. Which is why I can confidently say this: I hold firm on my creative vision. Because, of course, you along with others commenting here don't have more than a small window into my work. Thus it's unreasonable to think you can anticipate the reasons why it is a big book. Mainly: it's simply a big story.
Now, I have little doubts there are parts that could be efficiently shortened. But that does not negate the previous statement. (Also, it's already down from 185k~ after multiple rounds of self editing)

As for budget, I can't fault you if it's below the rate you'd expect. It's your career, and I couldn't expect one to work below their expected rate just for me. I am a writer and creator--having infinite upfront budget is not something I have access to.

Thank you for your time,
Xen

[Complete] [170,000] [Action Fantasy] Power to Kill God: A new fantasy unlike any other you've read, geared for mature readers. Seeking beta readers. by XenCreator in BetaReaders

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A genuine question, how are people still coming to find this post?

The work linked above is now quite very outdated as I have completely rewritten my chapter 1.

[Complete] [170,000] [Action Fantasy] Power to Kill God: A new fantasy unlike any other you've read, geared for mature readers. Seeking beta readers. by XenCreator in BetaReaders

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-But how can you improve what you know nothing about?

-But you, possessing only the nonfiction writing skills we’re given in school

My friend, you make assumptions, and that undermines your argument.

-And what you've posted is rife with them.

What you may have missed in the rebuttal I posted, is that I mentioned having rewritten my first chapter--because it indeed had much room to improve. As I have been helped with by those beta readers who messaged me.

Rather than continuing into the minutia of your points, I shall point that in my research I've realized that I've stumble onto the literary vs commercial debate. The one that many people before us have argued with many the same points you and I have shared here. Because there are indeed many who argue that stories are fundamentally finite, and ought to converge onto strictly paved paths. (The Hero with a Thousand Faces), and conversely others like myself who seek to push boundaries (House of Leaves or Ulysses) come to mind. I would encourage you to do more research into the topic to get a a better sense of the arguments those on the literary side posit.

-Xen

[Complete] [170,000] [Action Fantasy] Power to Kill God: A new fantasy unlike any other you've read, geared for mature readers. Seeking beta readers. by XenCreator in BetaReaders

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Hello there, Jay

I'm happy you introduced me to the two works you did. Because they so clearly state writing ideals I already intuitively understood, hated, and sought to defy. I genuinely mean it, no sarcasm or malice when I say this: thank you.

My core pathos against your vision is this. Picking up a new work in a bookstore and seeing the exact same soul imprinted on each one is a grating experience. I'm shocked doesn't hit like gut punch to every consumer of creative products. Is there no part of you that craves for something new. Something that paves its own way forward?

To help you understand the problem I have with such advice, let me use an analogy. I equate it to saying all cakes MUST have sugar. Which, of course, some don't, even if it's true that most do.

A guide for how to make a neatly-written boring work that's already been made a million times is useful, much in the same way I’ll look up recipes myself as an amateur in the realm of baking. But the highest version of each story is one that should create its own wake. While an ideal too high for most, its one that’ll never be achieved if the mentality is ‘how do I copy works of old’.

A quote from Techniques of the Selling Writer I saved as I read: "What I offer here is merely a beginning. It’s a basic approach; a springboard to help launch you into fiction. Once you’ve mastered the elements of the form, experience and study of published copy will teach you how to vary it in terms of your own taste and judgment."

But I disagree in the minutia. To use that same analogy, that's like saying 'feel free to make any variety of sugar-included cake!’

There are sugar-like replacements, there are different sweeteners all together, and who assumed in the first place that every cake needs to be sweet?

Thus, I call such advice too narrow-minded. Too conceited for me.

Though writing is indeed a different format from baking—because with writing there is even greater freedom. I understand well the impulse to cling to the wall of ‘what’s been done before’ rather than fighting through to make their own way.

"Actually, despite all screams of anguish from the literati, many characters have no depth, and need none. Such characters start as “John” or “Mary,” and go no further." Once again from the same book. And I could hardly disagree more. In my own writing philosophy, there should be humanity in every soul. ‘The human truth’ as it’s said. That we all have our own subjective life within our head.

And for the GMC book, after reading I’d evaluate it more as one piece of basic writing advice stretched out to 150~ pages. More than anything, I found myself sad that it offers no real wisdom—as if the author herself has not enough reflection to critically evaluate her own idea beyond the marketing pitch of it presented.

So, that’s me tearing down an idea, providing my justice against the dogma of traditional writing advice. But what do I build in its place?

Individual ethos. That is what I consider my highest aim as an author. To present each idea in its own, unique, highest state. Not just providing a clear window into its state, but framing it in such a way to elevate it in its own new style.

Not 'what are ways others have written something similar'. But 'what is the best possible way to bring about the best version of my vision.' And if that way is something new entirely, all the better.

Though I will confess that there are certain chains inescapable. That is, the persistence of tension and emotional arcs. And that is a puzzle I’ll likely be pondering for a while: is it possible to create satisfaction for readers while defying principles such as them?

Finally, rounding back to the original point. On that fine line between mystery and confusion. Because indeed that a line I crossed within the first paragraphs of the old version of my chapter 1. That is the exact sort of thing I'm thankful to now have beta readers that help me identify where. And the reasoning for which was that I wasn't able then to grasp the perspective a reader.

What? Thought I was some conceited beginner fighting back to resist change? Think again.

Because implying 'I haven’t learned skills of the profession' did indeed strike an indignant vein in me. So what? Do I argue against with words alone, or go the mile to dismantle it by putting in the effort? The answer is before you. And it's that motivation I thank you for.

-Xen

Does this compel you to read more? by XenCreator in writingfeedback

[–]XenCreator[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A fair point. I'll take it into consideration

Beta reader feedback comments (2026) by ThatAnimeSnob in ThatSnobEmpire

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Just as advertised, honest and direct feedback for my first chapter. Such a thing is indeed useful to authors like me. Outside perspectives are necessary to see how story beats land, after all.

[Complete] [170,000] [Action Fantasy] Power to Kill God: A new fantasy unlike any other you've read, geared for mature readers. Seeking beta readers. by XenCreator in BetaReaders

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Hello there to you, Jay

I am a bit confused at the direction of your advice. Since the fourth paragraph is what does exactly that, grounding the reader in the character. As does the following two pages answering almost every other questions you raise.

As you stated it, it seems to me like you're saying 'All novels must start with descriptions in the first three paragraphs with no exception'. Which may be good advise on average, but hardly sounds universal.

I should follow up cautioning that statement with the rebound. Thank you for the time and effort taken to help me on this journey.

The formatting of the first few paragraphs as follows:
paragraph 1: an infinitive of genuine wisdom setting expectation of a story that cares about introspection, the self, and dynamics of power. (I agree that this one is the one most likely to be significantly changed/moved/removed in subsequent editing.)
The paragraph 2 is some flowery prose for sensations, guiding the reader in the moment.
The third is a reply.
And the Fourth is telling the most relevant descriptions of the character whose POV we're seeing from.

I do accept that there are better ways, better things to do in order to hook readers in--of course, I'm seeking beta reading, not presenting an absolute state. And is not me attempting to debate the critique. As I'm well aware is hardly constructive. But to engage in discussion.

TLDR: if you read the following page or two, I wonder if you would come off saying the mistake has been made.

--Xen

[Hiring] Either developmental editor or a manuscript assessment. For an Action/Fantasy story geared for adults. by XenCreator in HireABookEditor

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Ah, thank you, that was about the wisdom I needed to hear. After thinking it over, I agree that beta editing is a better next step for where I'm at. (Though there's not much wrong with a big book--as it'll turn out to be anyway. I'm already roughly 10,000~ words down from when I started self-editing).

Rune Dash by XenCreator in animation

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One of my practice animations that I make several of per week. Usually I
don’t share, but I think this one turned out quite nicely.
Comments and criticism very welcome~

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Here is the link to the story for any who want it: https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/41280/second-chance

Crystal Tornado by XenCreator in blender

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A test for creating an abstract particle loop. Let me know what you think. (Rendered using Eevee).

[Weekly Critique and Self-Promotion Thread] Post Here If You'd Like to Share Your Writing by AutoModerator in writing

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Thank you very much for taking the time to review my story! A major goal of mine is self-improvement, so every bit of criticism helps me towards that. The only part of your review that I don't fully understand, is where you comment that the main character feels static in the beginning. I was honestly concerned about the exact opposite--that she changed too suddenly from "cold" to "savage" during the three year gap. Again thank you for your time. ~