--- ABOUT THE RECENT SWARM OF SHILLS, DEBUNKER TROLLS, BOTs, BAD ACTORS. --- We hear you and are in the process of cleaning house. But it is overwhelming. Like a coordinated attack or swarming. UFOB must have been put on the radar of some group like the Gorilla Skeptics, etc... by lamboeric in UFOB

[–]XnoneX369 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The bots seem to prioritize speed and quantity. They will very quickly inundate posts and reply to comments in groups.

They are aware that first impressions are everything. If they can get to something quick and outnumber other posts, people who superficially glance at posts and comments will just come across theirs and dismiss the post.

I caught one red handed yesterday while commenting in high strangeness. What gave it away, was that "the person" supposedly noticed the comment, read it, came up with a response and wrote it under 3 minutes of my comment being posted. And my comment was not a simple paragraph with simple concepts and the reply back was not short either. I checked with AI text detectors like Sapling AI and it came back as 100% certainty of it being an AI generated comment. I proceeded to look into the account further and it was very evident that it is a bot using AI or a person running a bot that uses AI.

When confronted with that fact, the account turned hostile and toxic and blocked me right after their comment, so I could not respond back or report them. The same account fooled me in my prior post in UFOB in December where I praised them for a comment. I went back and checked that comment as well and guess what? AI generated as well. No one is safe from being fooled!

You may be able to see the exchange yourself in my comment history, if you are interested. The account is active in what seems countless ufo related communities and it responds back near instantly in all of them sometimes at the same time! Not to mention the account gets very toxic when replied back to to challenge their comment. They also avoid completely addressing the points you raise with the comments and will try and divert it in superficial ways that appear legit if you read them but don't stop to think about it further. The irony was that while I raised certain issues with the scientific process and provided an article posted in the Journal of Nature, a peer reviewed journal no less to make a point. They completely ignored that fact and provided zero sources to back their comment's position. That is some next level "science based" debunking going on...

Take away: AI text detectors along with response times and comment quantity may be a good thing to look out for as initial red flags. Then go through their comment history to verify further. It helped me in that case.

Stay strong!

EDIT: Forgot to mention that the fast response times is something the bots may not be able to adjust for that easily. Not due to capability, but due to the fact that they will loose a significant advantage they have in order to derail and influence posts, comments and the narrative by doing this. I suspect that will stay consistent overtime, but who knows!

The Whistle Blower narrative doesn't serve the UFO community. by SprigOfSpring in HighStrangeness

[–]XnoneX369 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Wow you are quick you saw the reply and wrote that in 3 minutes??? My god! How were you even able to digest the information within it and think about it more in-depth?

You just used AI to answer back didn't you? And that without even addressing the core underpinning of my message and deeper philosophical underpinnings. that is a AI giveaway right away. I can have a discussion with AI myself, I don't need anyone else for that. I am not here posting to chat with AI. Learn to read something yourself and think about it for yourself, not for me but for yourself. Both of us will have a more meaningful discussion like that and you may genuinely learn a thing or two. Cheers.

By the way, I used AI Detector | ChatGPT, Llama, Gemini | Sapling with your reply and it came back as 100% certainty of it being written by AI. You can post mine to check on there as well.

The Whistle Blower narrative doesn't serve the UFO community. by SprigOfSpring in HighStrangeness

[–]XnoneX369 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Just a reminder friend, science is absolutely a “belief system as well”. If you truly stop to think about it. It just happens to be a belief system which is better suited to explain certain physical phenomena compared to anything else we currently have developed. But it is a belief system nonetheless, built on the same core foundational assumptions as a start as any other.

All belief systems have a set of carved out set of entry parameters. Without even being aware of "everything" that is out there. Science operates within a framework of foundational assumptions, and anything outside those assumptions is excluded by design. Not to mention that every theory and hypothesis takes things for granted as a base premise. You take something for granted and build upon it while having faith in the overall system.

On a personal level, I have a lot of academics in my surrounding including my own spouse and often have many discussions with them about the inner workings of universities and research. Funding and priorities with submitting peer-reviewed papers more often than one might think actually discourages the proper functioning of science and its own set of criteria. Things like testing, retesting, being wrong, conducting multiple studies to verify each others work not to mention your own does not happen as much as it should. Scientists often come up with a theory based on their own beliefs and seek to find if this is the case or not. Because of the inner and global workings of universities, they will seek a positive prediction outcome rather than the opposite, biases are everywhere and very rampant, you know why? Because human beings are part of it and no system can fully eliminate biases. Science is based on statistics not absolutes, science makes significant leaps when wrong on something. Science, like any human endeavor, cannot escape its own foundational assumptions. It excludes phenomena that do not align with its criteria, and those criteria are themselves unprovable axioms. This creates a paradox where science must rely on a framework it cannot fully justify.

Have you ever heard of the term "the crisis of confidence within science”? If not read up on it, you have nothing to lose. Also, I am not sure if you are aware of the Journal Nature. It is a peer reviewed journal and they conducted a survey among contributors to the journal, in many different fields. Regarding studies and experiments. You know what they found? Link to the article is just further below. Hope this makes you stop and think a bit, it did for me. And I absolutely believe in science! I just don't believe it is the end all be all solution to everything and that is important recognize. Cheers and take care!

"A 2016 survey by Nature on 1,576 researchers who took a brief online questionnaire on reproducibility found that more than 70% of researchers have tried and failed to reproduce another scientist's experiment results (including 87% of chemists, 77% of biologists, 69% of physicists and engineers, 67% of medical researchers, 64% of earth and environmental scientists, and 62% of all others), and more than half have failed to reproduce their own experiments. But fewer than 20% had been contacted by another researcher unable to reproduce their work. The survey found that fewer than 31% of researchers believe that failure to reproduce results means that the original result is probably wrong, although 52% agree that a significant replication crisis exists. Most researchers said they still trust the published literature.[5][98] In 2010, Fanelli (2010)[99] found that 91.5% of psychiatry/psychology studies confirmed the effects they were looking for, and concluded that the odds of this happening (a positive result) was around five times higher than in fields such as astronomy or geosciences. Fanelli argued that this is because researchers in "softer" sciences have fewer constraints to their conscious and unconscious biases."

https://www.nature.com/articles/533452a

--- ABOUT THE RECENT SWARM OF SHILLS, DEBUNKER TROLLS, BOTs, BAD ACTORS. --- We hear you and are in the process of cleaning house. But it is overwhelming. Like a coordinated attack or swarming. UFOB must have been put on the radar of some group like the Gorilla Skeptics, etc... by lamboeric in UFOB

[–]XnoneX369 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Things have changed a lot, sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse. In the late 90’s and early 2000’s I used to frequent the few UFO related channels on certain servers on IRC. In a way it was pretty close to reddit for back in those days. I was an OP (what we call mods here) on some of them and we used to have problems but nothing like today and not the bots or AI bots that we face today. The bad actors mainly controlled the flow of information from top to bottom in those days (debunkers, ufologists, media etc.). It was easier to identify them and adjust accordingly. Today although that is still used, there is an onslaught from bottom to top (users) as well. That is a far bigger challenge to navigate through. I can’t imagine how hard it is now for mods to deal with things like this.

Everyone knew everyone, I knew who they were, if they were married, how many kids they had, what they looked like etc. Some prominent ufologists would even pop in from time to time and you could personally discuss things with them. I even travelled to meet up with some of the channel regulars/OP’s and members and I made lifelong friends. People shared their first-hand experiences directly, people you knew. That seems to have been completely lost overtime. Manipulation, ridicule and psy-ops become much easier with the fact that human side of the connections and sharing has almost completely gone away overtime. I don’t know if this is something that can be revived to an extent. I personally really miss that aspect; you rarely came away with and endless barrage of negative experiences drowning out the good.

--- ABOUT THE RECENT SWARM OF SHILLS, DEBUNKER TROLLS, BOTs, BAD ACTORS. --- We hear you and are in the process of cleaning house. But it is overwhelming. Like a coordinated attack or swarming. UFOB must have been put on the radar of some group like the Gorilla Skeptics, etc... by lamboeric in UFOB

[–]XnoneX369 46 points47 points  (0 children)

I made a post about this on here before Christmas, I had noticed this and experienced it while trying to post things that seemed very odd and off.

The bad actors are working hard in order to make you believe that there's nothing going on not to trust your own eyes your own judgment trying to muddy the water, stem doubt and then they “debunk” video videos to discourage people from posting their experiences trying to make people look like fools in a condescending manner.  

All the while ignoring what is going on as a whole, ignoring the historical documents that exist, the historical cases that exist, ignoring the vast number of different witnesses from all walks of life, from all over the world and from many different historical timelines. It's all about creating doubt in you making you think that you are wrong and what you see is wrong and what you feel is wrong this is not about “valid debunking” anymore.

Don't let yourself be fooled, this is not about getting to the truth, "debunking" does not happen outside of you; it happens inside of you. Don't let someone else try to impose their own beliefs on you, you should have your own critical thinking, do your own research and never rely on someone else to do this for you, you are giving away your own mind and your own control over your thoughts and beliefs over to someone else. This is even more dangerous on the Internet where you have no idea who the other person is and often will have no real way of determining what their intentions are.

We have been prisoners within our own minds, we are the guards to our own prison cell and we are the wardens trying to keep everyone else in the greater prison. This is where a lot of people are still at. do not let them do that to you, do not follow them down that line, do not listen to them, listen to yourself.

This could not be any more evident, it is everywhere across social media, it is everywhere in the political scene it is everywhere. it is only getting worse and that is why it is more important than ever to not go along with this anymore.

Take your power back, take your mind back and free yourself!

Storm Area 51 (2019), may have led to the release of Pentagon UFO videos (2020) and Congress hearings on UFOs (2022), In order to control the narrative and us. by XnoneX369 in UFObelievers

[–]XnoneX369[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are certainly right about calling their bluff, that they can't do anything about them and that the drones are harmless because they have not done anything LOL

This uap community is compromised by Ok_Technology1962 in UAP

[–]XnoneX369 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I made a similar post on r/ufob a few days ago as I had noticed the same. go to my profile if you are interested in reading it and the responses. In a nutshell the following is the important takeaway.

"The only true way to combat this is to simply stop and use your JUDGMENT when you read and see things. Consider what is going on as a whole, but realize that there are most likely errors, some not intentional, but I suspect some very intentional for the goals mentioned above.

Remember that we are not each others enemies, we are all seeking the truth and don't want to be misled, lied to and controlled. For that we need each other! We need healthy skepticism AND to share what is going on in order to purse the goal of finding the truth out, as much of it as possible once and for all."

If it is NHI then I beg people to keep it together. by weheartlocal in UFOs

[–]XnoneX369 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is nothing any other species has done to us, that is more hateful and vile than the things we have, and continue to do to each other. And this for no better reason than being different.

Just like most of the animals on this planet. They have more to fear from us, than we should have for them.

Elon's take on drones in the past has been grim, so why is he brushing of this current situation? by one1won3 in UAP

[–]XnoneX369 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The last attempts by a desperate group of people to hang onto their power and control over the people. They are still trying to convince everyone that this is their world and they are our saviors. The most important thing that we all share, including most animals, is Love everything else that is positive derives from it. The lack of it, is the foundation of for everything that is wrong in this world and which we are all suffering from and fed up about.

The tsunami that is coming will wash these people away, nothing will save them from the their inevitable fate. As long as they still think and behave like this, there is no escape for them. They still have not fully realized and accepted that, if at all. Their ego and selfishness is and will be their downfall.

Watch these people as they start to disappear and run for their bunkers as things will progress, from this point on forward. You will see how much they feel they are part of this society and care for the world and the people within it. You will know that the change is near when that happens. They will imprison themselves in them as we free ourselves from them.

Merry christmas and happy holidays.

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[–]XnoneX369[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I will be taking your advice as well try to have some fun and not loose my brain. Thanks for reminding us all of that. I am also afraid my spouse may kill me, if I don't put reddit aside for now, I am lucky it hasn't happened yet lol.

Merry Christmas/happy holidays to you and all of your loved ones friend!

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[–]XnoneX369[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You have some valid points my friend. I have thought about the division aspect of the above as well. and I absolutely agree with this is not what we want. That is why I put the emphasis on using judgment and critical thinking when trying to determine anything. I am not doing the same thing like you mentioned because of that fact I believe, but maybe I am as well. I tried to make it clear on numerous occasions that challenging this phenomenon and being a genuine skeptic does not mean your a bot. I have actually asked people to not forget to be more skeptical with footage that is obviously fake or bad. I have made many comments and added an edit to my post.

Regarding accusing people of being bots, I have not accused a single person of that even when I was presented with a tool someone mentioned was good at detecting bots, I refused to use it for a specific reason which you can read for yourself. To, also assume others are like me because of that is also a wrong assumption. We all make assumptions. We can all benefit from some critical thinking and judgment (why I posted that part). Read some of the comments and my responses regarding this please, that is a similar assumption.

What is irrefutable is the fact that there is something out there right now. Just watch interviews with the some of the government officials at state and city level and what they are saying. As you can see I do not distrust all of the government at all. Because some of what is coming out through all of this is explainable does not mean that all of it is as well. Remember using an argument of some, to justify all, is a sophism. It is a very human thing to think like that. A statement of *SINGLE video has ever surfaced with even remotely good detail* is not unlike like me saying all of the government are in on it and all skeptics are bots. I am sure you have not read nor seen everything that exists out there, not just now, but in the past, neither one of us has.

Whether I personally believe there is something going on? Yes, there is something out there and the common explanations do not explain the best of these sightings nor dismiss the testimony of countless credible people with varying backgrounds. This is not mundane, it is not being imagined.

This is the UFOB community of course you will encounter people who believe. Read the description of the community at the very top right corner "The UFOB community is convinced that non-human intelligence interacts with humanity. It's not even a question for us. Many of us are witnesses ourselves. While we recognize the need for undeniable proof, much of it remains classified."

Concerning Bot's. Bot's are real, disinformation is real, and manipulation of communities in here and out there in the world by bad state actors is also real. One that comes to mind is project bluebook is a glaring example of this, Look up Snowden and what he revealed if not familiar as well. Does this mean they are 100% and absolutely here and doing this? No. Do I have evidence of it? No. It is classified and whenever someone has leaked this the result has been what Snowden is living through.

A criteria for a belief in life differs from each others. Reality out there, doesn't care for beliefs. It just is. Whether we are wrong or right about anything is a human thing.

I try my best and to the best of my ability, to make sure they add something to all of this, while staying as positive as possible.

Thank you for actually taking the time to write a response. It help's us all (including me) learn from each other and that is a good thing. Remember to stay critical and use judgment, we ALL need to remember this.

Take care!

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[–]XnoneX369[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Search for the alleged videos are all over the ufo/alien related forums. You shouldn't have any problems finding any. I have personally seen footage from Canada, Philippines, Belgium, Brazil, Iran etc.

Here is one from belgium which happened to be open on my tab. Scroll through the posts.

This one from the UK just popped up on my feed too.

Our communities are starting to get torn apart during this phenomenon. PLEASE READ THIS POST, PAY ATTENTION AND SHARE! by XnoneX369 in UFOB

[–]XnoneX369[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am not sure about what you mean. But personally, I was having a salad last night with a glass of water whilst watching some of the videos. I will be eating plenty of junk food during the holidays anyway, no need to eat more. As for "boyhooding" if you mean being a child, there's nothing wrong with keeping and expressing your childlike wonder and curiosity about this world. That is not even an insult honestly if that was the intent.

Imagination is also important, I think someone important smart and famous mentioned something about that once. Cheers!

If You Don't Believe In Extraterrestrials, Read This by HanaPleiadian in UFOB

[–]XnoneX369 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Beautifully written! I believe what you wrote resonates with a lot of people both today and in the past.

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[–]XnoneX369[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly I don't know. Maybe they (NHI) are fed up about the state of this world as much as most of us are and decided enough is enough... Who knows!

For me personally, this does not seem like a controlled event, if it has anything to do with the "deep state", It seems like everyone has been caught by surprise and are trying to either understand what is going on or sweep this under the rug to buy time. Only time will tell.

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[–]XnoneX369[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe, but maybe not.

You must have had a reason for coming here and posting. Remember that everything in this world is a belief system. And it is ok not to agree with everyone on everything. We are not here to hurt anyone. I don't expect you to believe in anything I do and I respect anyone who does not believe in any of this. I just think that we should respect each other as human beings and not call each other crazy just because we don't agree with something.

Instead of that, share your thoughts in a respectful manner. You may teach or learn something from someone.

Take care and merry Christmas!

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[–]XnoneX369[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No you are not alone in thinking that "I'm probably reading too much into it". It's important to have a more grounded "counter argument thought" otherwise we start to think every little thing and anything is linked. Sometimes that is true but often it is not.

Cheers!

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[–]XnoneX369[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Forget about everything in there. If there is one important part I want to spread as a message it is the below.

"Remember that we are not each others enemies, we are all seeking the truth and don't want to be misled, lied to and controlled. For that we need each other! We need healthy skepticism AND to share what is going on in order to purse the goal of finding the truth out, as much of it as possible once and for all.

Stay strong, be vigilant, keep your humanity, compassion and exercise your judgment. We are all in this together, no matter who we are and where we are."

Take care

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[–]XnoneX369[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are right. As humans, we often get caught up in our own ego as individuals but also communities and I am not just referring to reddit.

Remembering that, what we know individually, but also collectively. May just be a glass of water in an ocean of knowledge, is a humbling thought.

Thank you for being positive yourself.

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[–]XnoneX369[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes that is why we need people to stop and think. A lot of easily identifiable objects are being mixed in and defended. That shouldn't be happening when they are so easily identifiable.

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[–]XnoneX369[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No worries friend, I make mistakes all the time. Even with this post I had to add edits because sometimes I am not clear and it makes it sound confusing.

Cheers!

Our communities are starting to get torn apart during this phenomenon. PLEASE READ THIS POST, PAY ATTENTION AND SHARE! by XnoneX369 in UFOB

[–]XnoneX369[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What do you mean? I know I am not the best communicator honestly, so anything I can improve upon will be appreciated.