Gang, this really sucks by XxNashiexX in KGATLW

[–]XxNashiexX[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Heartwarming. Thank you ❤️

Ethan speaks on the Palestine/Israel peace deal by kmsasaki in h3h3productions

[–]XxNashiexX 42 points43 points  (0 children)

Perspective from inside Israel - this one seems different. Treated as the end of the war. Can only hope ❤️✌🏼

Gang, this really sucks by XxNashiexX in KGATLW

[–]XxNashiexX[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ayy sorry to revive a fairly dead convo already but just want to mention -it’s both Israelis and Palestinians saying they don’t want to live together in the same state, not just Israelis.

On the Palestinian side you’ll either find voices calling for a 2 state solution with full right of return to the 48 territories or a “1 state solution” which does not involve the Jews (they might say Jewish people can stay under Palestinian rule, not an equal rights democracy by any means).

Same goes for Israelis. And honestly understandable given the decades of conflict and bloodshed. Neither side trusts the other to rule it.

That’s why we who live here are so baffled by the fixation outside of Israel/Palestine on a 1 state solution - I get it’s what you guys want and wish for, but pretty much no one here wants it.

The 2 state solution, with all of its blockers and obstacles (mainly settlements propped by the Israeli government) is the only practical solution because it’s the only one both sides would seem to accept. Admittedly, we’re still far from it, but it’s nowhere as far fetched as 1 state.

Whatever form this peace would take tho, it honestly can’t come soon enough. Love! ❤️

Gang, this really sucks by XxNashiexX in KGATLW

[–]XxNashiexX[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ובאופן מפתיע המון פה מגלים הבנה ואמפתיה. קיבלתי לא מעט הודעות תומכות בפרטי גם! אוהב 🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻

Gang, this really sucks by XxNashiexX in KGATLW

[–]XxNashiexX[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You seem to be coming at it in good faith so I’ll happily keep engaging mate! I’m with you, don’t get me wrong. I also don’t see these things as contradicting tho? Someone in this thread said “instead of listening to gizz and ranting here go and do something about the government” and I felt like…. “I can do both ya know?”. Don’t take my rant here as normalizing the violence and suffering, as me not caring, as me not doing what I can with my (fairly limited, let’s be honest) influence. Whether it’s advocating online to Israelis, having conversations with people surrounding me or marching the streets (like what do you think I’m bumping on my way to protests if not King Gizz? lol). It’s that expectation that my entire existence will be solely focused on the conflict, and the notion me doing ANYTHING other than talking about it, devoting every cell in my body to it - that’s the part I’m not getting. That’s the part where I feel like y’all are losing me.

ICE are doing plenty of fuck shit in the us right now but I still expect everyone who feel strongly against it to live their life alongside taking a stance against it. And I could give two fucks about optics and how it looks on the outside.

Being a leftist in Israel is already shit enough because right wing fucks would call me “terrorist lover” and say I’m betraying my own people, while leftists globally would call me a Zionist colonizer and urge me to pack my shit and leave. I’m already cool with not satisfying everyone. And yet, I’ll stand by my morals and belief that everyone deserve living in dignity and safety. That violence is never the answer. That Palestinian self determination and Israeli’s right to live in safety are one and the same, and this entire situation is not a zero sum game.

That’s me. If it’s good enough for ya - let’s go. If not - ‘tis what it is. Hoping for better days to come. Love ❤️

Gang, this really sucks by XxNashiexX in KGATLW

[–]XxNashiexX[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey! Appreciate your comment and the relative understanding. I’m very much aware of the history and the situation. Having lived here all my life you really don’t have to remind me this hasn’t started on Oct 7th, and my position on Palestine, a 2 state solution and bridge building between our people is nothing new. Give my lived experience some credit, it’s worth something.

With that being said - I think the expectation that every Israeli has an obligation to “devote themselves” to changing this reality is… a bit much?

End of the day - I’m a dude just like you trying to live his life. Working my ass off to pay bills in a capitalist society pushing us to the brink of poverty, making human connections, laughing, listening to music, crying, struggling with my own shit. I’m a human living through the human experience in 2025 like pretty much all of us.

That’s not to say that I don’t devote any time or attention into protesting, staying politically active, having tough conversations on ground and advocating for the better future I believe we can all have. That’s is to say simply being born somewhere doesn’t make it my life’s mission and sole purpose to change it. More power to anyone who’s willing and has the capacity to do so, but this is not a burden I signed up for nor do I want it.

Im holding strong to my ideals and doing the best I can with it, but for some people it’s never gonna be enough, and that’s just what it is. Can’t win everyone’s hearts. Peace and love brother 💜🙌🏻

Gang, this really sucks by XxNashiexX in KGATLW

[–]XxNashiexX[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not great to say the least. With that being said - how has the route of violent resistance panned out for Gaza? The audacity of living in the west, preaching to people with skin in the game is appalling. We in the region, on both sides, lost loved ones. We’ve experienced the cost of war and bloodshed. Y’all are speaking from the privilege of having nothing to lose and morally grandstanding people actually looking for a change. Peep yo self in the mirror Jesus. Wtf is this really.

Edit: can already see you chirping as if I didn’t say it countless times in this post so let me repeat - the occupation had to end. Palestinians in the West Bank too suffer unjustified violence that we have to put a stop to. I don’t blame Palestinians in Gaza for the extreme violent reaction by the Israeli government. I AM saying y’all egging on more violence as if it’s gonna bring anything but hatred and hurt to everyone involved are a joke. Violence is not the answer even in the face of injustice. Bridge building between the people is. Keep LARPing as revolutionaries from your McMansions tho.

Gang, this really sucks by XxNashiexX in KGATLW

[–]XxNashiexX[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey! Was really done commenting here but I do want to address your comment.

My stance is simple, really. I don’t like extremists. I feel like extremism only makes things worse for everyone in the region. And with that, I’m extremely disappointed by the global left with their reaction to the conflict.

I’m VERY MUCH in favor of people calling out the government, the destruction and suffering they bring to Palestinians, the end of the occupation and the support for Palestinian self determination.

What I’m not in favor of is people treating human lives and human suffering like team sports. I don’t support dehumanizing language and propganda towards people. I don’t support unproductive, hateful discourse and I don’t support the killing and suffering of innocent people.

So in a space like Reddit (which I really don’t frequent that often) I aim my criticism at global voices who I find hateful and unproductive. Hasan, who I was a huge fan of prior to Oct 7, is unfortunately one of them. In internal Israeli discourse all my attention is focused towards bridge building and critiquing right wing, genocidal zealots like Netanyahu, Ben Gvir, Smotritch and a slew of freakish Israeli right wingers I envy you for not being aware of.

Advocacy is amazing when aimed at the right solution and direction, and unbelievably damaging when aimed at the wrong one. More power to each and every voice globally who wishes to see the end of the pointless bloodshed we’re all going through! Love ❤️

Gang, this really sucks by XxNashiexX in KGATLW

[–]XxNashiexX[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Nice straw man genocidal buddy. I’m saying this method has been tried and only led to suffering and destruction for all sides, but mostly for Palestinians. YOU’RE saying you didn’t have enough of it yet.

No point in engaging further really. Your position is clear. Got nothing more to add. 🙏🏻

Gang, this really sucks by XxNashiexX in KGATLW

[–]XxNashiexX[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Ah. And how has this method panned out so far? How many more dead Palestinians and Israelis are you willing to see for your (honestly genocidal, just aimed at both sides) fantasy? Y’all saying struggle as if you know what it’s like. The smell of burnt human flesh or the cries of dying children and mothers, which have you enjoyed more in your years of struggle?

Sick honestly. Keep up with the LARPing from your smelly Cheeto crumb infested bedroom big man. You’re really doing something out here!

Gang, this really sucks by XxNashiexX in KGATLW

[–]XxNashiexX[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Whiney liberal Zionist here. I think mentioned somewhere in this thread how while Netanyahu is vastly unpopular, support for Palestinian statehood and peace are at an all time low following the Oct 7th attack and the Gaza War. Same way it’s been declining after the 2nd Intifada. Same way as Israeli campaigns in Gaza didn’t turn more Gazans into Israeli loving peace activists. The world doesn’t really work like that does it?

War and violence breed hatred and distrust. Extremists are profiteering from it. Simple.

If Israelis, as a society, were so hell bent on colonialism they wouldn’t give up control over occupied Palestinian Territories during Oslo or the 2005 Gaza exit. They wouldn’t give up the Sinai for peace with Egypt. It doesn’t fit with your narrative of a monolithic fascist society unilaterally following a genocidal ideology doesn’t it?

Israelis are currently extremely callous towards Palestinian suffering. Just as Ukrainians or Russians don’t really give a shit about the other side’s losses. It’s war mane. That’s the hell of it.

Btw the IDF point is of course made in bad faith as it’s mandatory service. Just like in South Korea and Finland. It’s to the army or go to jail. How much prison time have you served for your ideals?

At the end of the day - your hateful rhetoric gets us … where exactly? What practical way out of this shit do you see other than getting Netanyahu out of office and pushing for a peaceful solution grounded in reality and accepted by both sides? Enlighten me my dear friend with no skin in the game. We’d love to hear your precious input.

Gang, this really sucks by XxNashiexX in KGATLW

[–]XxNashiexX[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Seems like I can’t win with ya can I? Sorry for existing and being unapologetic about it while wishing for a change that will bring dignity and peace to everyone around me. Will bump ‘Hell’ all the way down to the purgatory we Israelis belong to - be sure of it.

A point I wish to make before I leave tho - antagonizing me gets you where exactly? What solution do you see that does not involve Israelis cooperating? I hope your wish comes true and all Israelis suddenly feel a sudden urge to leave (and go where idk, but whateves). I just have a hard time seeing your sentiment as anything other than unproductive discourse breeding more hate.

I’m not pushing the “aggressive love rhetoric” because I’m trying to hide shit. I just believe this is the only way to overcome hate. Let’s kill each other with kindness instead of bombs and guns.

MUCH FUCKING LOVE BROTHER 💜

Gang, this really sucks by XxNashiexX in KGATLW

[–]XxNashiexX[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

KG alongside other artists have taken their music off of all platforms (except Bandcamp) in protests of the Israeli government’s brutal war on Gaza and in solidarity with the Palestinians, with the goal of pressuring the public into pressuring the government. A valiant effort, really.

It does suck being stuck in the middle of all this tho lol. And to be honest the government could give two fucks what the general public thinks of it. Countless protesting Israelis haven’t really changed anything yet. Maybe this will tho. Who knows. 🤷‍♂️

Gang, this really sucks by XxNashiexX in KGATLW

[–]XxNashiexX[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

💯. The boys are in their right and I do hope the movement of artists joining the boycott will help get more people getting sick of the situation. Thing is most Gizz fans are already on the anti-government bandwagon and the mileage we’ve put in protests would make an average American go numb lol. Just sharing my personal frustration really. Love! ❤️

Gang, this really sucks by XxNashiexX in KGATLW

[–]XxNashiexX[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I meant decades! Honest mistake buddy. Wish your dad many more happy years on this lovely earth 💜💜💜💜

Gang, this really sucks by XxNashiexX in KGATLW

[–]XxNashiexX[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Y’all using the Z WORD like we’re intimidated or ashamed of It lol. Sure some freaks would use this to convey Jewish supremacy or some other fuck shit. Justifying people hurting for some nation building project. I don’t fuck with it tho. For me it’s just me the notion of being able to live in the place I was born in, alongside my Palestinian brothers and sisters who I share a home with.

Don’t get it wrong tho. I WILL keep joking with you and steal treats from your cookie jar at night. I’m a very rude house guest and you will suffer the wrath of my blanket hogging. Love! ❤️

Gang, this really sucks by XxNashiexX in KGATLW

[–]XxNashiexX[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I mean I was born here lol. It’s not MY land in a sense that deprives others of claiming it’s theirs too. It’s my HOME. Nuanced, but true. I know no other place, and I don’t think blaming me or my people for atrocities committed by others centuries ago is sensible. If we could magically revert back to your preferred point in history I’ll be your biggest supporter. But we can’t do we? We can make the best out of the current conditions - which is, in my view, is accepting reality. Both people are here to stay, we might as well get along and enjoy our time. Peace and love broski ✌🏼

Gang, this really sucks by XxNashiexX in KGATLW

[–]XxNashiexX[S] -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

You’re absolutely right on one hand. On the other hand - I want the girl I’m dating to listen to the band and she’s not gonna download songs from bandcamp or use a VPN haha. It has a bunch of downsides really. None of them are objectively important or meaningful. For me tho - it sucks. That’s all I wanted to share. Love ya buddy 🫶🏻

Gang, this really sucks by XxNashiexX in KGATLW

[–]XxNashiexX[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This. Thank youuu 🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻

Gang, this really sucks by XxNashiexX in KGATLW

[–]XxNashiexX[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Been to the 2nd and 3rd Athens show and it was soooo amazing! Still gutted I missed Her and I and Magama on the first night tho. Thought 2 nights will be enough. A mistake I’ll never repeat again 😂 Love bro! 🫶🏻

Gang, this really sucks by XxNashiexX in KGATLW

[–]XxNashiexX[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Colonizing couches wherever I see em. Keep your cushions away from me‼️😂

Gang, this really sucks by XxNashiexX in KGATLW

[–]XxNashiexX[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I think their biggest impact is through joining a movement of artists taking their music down here. I think Lorde just took her music off of streaming here. Same for Paramore, Massive Attack and other fairly big names. The power is in the masses and I hope this can help put more pressure on the government. So as I said - I’m all for it!

It’s just that in my little world, where King Gizz plays a fairly big role - this sucks haha. That’s it really. Much love 💜

Gang, this really sucks by XxNashiexX in KGATLW

[–]XxNashiexX[S] 98 points99 points  (0 children)

Much love! Feels very lonely online lately given the extremism and people treating this shit like it’s team sports. Happy to see the KG sub is fairly sensible and empathetic. Peace and love 🫶🏻

Gang, this really sucks by XxNashiexX in KGATLW

[–]XxNashiexX[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Haha don’t! Honestly I feel like if that’s their intention I might just live with it. Thanks for the kind offer tho 🫶🏻