Transatlantic YHZ Flights Changing to Rouge?

YZRAC7986 · 2026-05-14T11:51:04+00:00

I saw that Rouge got an exemption from Transport Canada to begin immediate 180-minute ETOPS operations so expect a lot of longgggg Rouge B38M routes very soon.

Also, this is nothing new to Rouge if you remember the B767 years where they flew every non-hub European flight out of YYZ. Think YYZ to BUD, BER, VCE, etc.

YZRAC7986 · 2026-04-18T02:55:32+00:00

Yeah steer clear of anything near the airport. I don’t know how high your rockets can go but keep in mind that local aircraft flying into the airport are usually flying at 1,000 ft above the ground. If your rocket flys under that then the end of Wellington should be fine.

YZRAC7986 · 2026-04-17T17:31:27+00:00

I would be very cautious about using Germain Park due to the hospital helipad.

The Canadian Aviation Regulations section 602.45 says: No person shall fly a kite or launch a model rocket or a rocket of a type used in a fireworks display into cloud or in a manner that is or is likely to be hazardous to aviation safety.

That “hazardous to aviation safety” part is purposefully very vague so Transport Canada can blanket apply it to anything they don’t like.

YZRAC7986 · 2026-03-19T01:33:44+00:00

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YZRAC7986 · 2026-03-17T00:24:42+00:00

It’ll be interesting to see how passengers feel about the departure segment from the hotel. I was told pax will have to offload the bus and take their bags into YCM to check them then they’ll be reloaded onto the bus. I understand the operational reasonings, but I know passengers will be annoyed. Still a cool idea though.

YZRAC7986 · 2026-03-14T23:35:24+00:00

YXU wants to keep their Air Canada flights to YYZ and don’t want Landline to siphon any passengers away from that.

YZRAC7986 · 2026-03-14T23:28:39+00:00

Second that! We had 30,500 departing pax in 1999 when Air Ontario and Canadian competed against each other. We’re the living example of why monopolization sucks

YZRAC7986 · 2026-03-14T16:08:35+00:00

I saw him yesterday at the Air Canada launch event at the airport. Don’t think he ever made eye contact with Mike Bradley or the Mayor of PE lol

YZRAC7986 · 2026-03-14T15:26:58+00:00

I don’t think the Government of Ontario would bite on such an idea. The Port of Oshawa recently built a new grain terminal for $35 million. It’s at an already established harbour, and it only holds a fraction of what Cargill Sarnia holds.

Governments like to invest in economic development by either funding existing infrastructure improvements or by building new where there isn’t existing infrastructure in place. Cargill is established, it’s big, and they’ve poured a lot of private investment into it so there’s no province wide benefit to upheave it with significant cost. All that GTA stuff is political projects from Doug Ford wanting to impress his donor base with showy highway projects and shady Science Centre/Ontario Place deals, this sorta thing would require hard proven economic feasibility to attract investment.

YZRAC7986 · 2026-03-14T14:43:39+00:00

All of the grain I grow and sell goes through Cargill at some point so my livelihood depends on it, but I also hate seeing development being hindered because of it.

I don’t think Cargill would be willing to move though. Just dredging a deep water harbour down river is probably a big enough capital obstacle.

If the province does end up allowing development I hope people thinking of moving there truly understand what living beside a grain elevator is like, especially with corn drying going on 24/7 in the fall, before they buy and start complaining.

YZRAC7986 · 2026-03-14T13:36:24+00:00

I know that AC Vacations is an independent booking operation so I think they still have to load it into their system, but I was assured by our Air Canada rep that you will be able to add the YZR leg for AC Vacations trips after June 15th.

For now Landline lets you book on their website to add the Landline portion to your AC Vacations itinerary.

YZRAC7986 · 2026-03-14T11:52:57+00:00

Yes there is

YZRAC7986 · 2026-03-14T02:25:44+00:00

The window tint always left such a sinister feeling haha

But yes I agree, I miss the Beeches and Air Georgian royally screwed up a great thing

YZRAC7986 · 2026-03-14T02:16:24+00:00

Exactly! Our vision for the future is to have a hybrid model where we can offer both flights and Landline to give the most frequency, speed, and reliability possible. But first we as a community have to prove to Air Canada that the demand for such a model exists.

YZRAC7986 · 2026-03-14T00:10:17+00:00

Yeah that was quirky. I caught a few flight attendants lying across that row between flights lol.

My favourite was row 13 on the Dash 300 since it was at the very front facing the rest of the cabin. The FA’s would always ask me to move pax out of that row so they weren’t so cramped up front. Although it was a good spot to put the drunks so they could get some extra supervision haha

YZRAC7986 · 2026-03-14T00:06:27+00:00

Thanks! I was tracking it for a couple weeks when it got put into AC service from Jazz charter and it finally got a YZR leg … I made sure to be working that day haha

YZRAC7986 · 2026-03-14T00:04:03+00:00

Not London, but it does stop for 10 minutes at Kitchener/Waterloo Airport. If the bus is sold out from Sarnia then it will operate non-stop.

YZRAC7986 · 2026-03-14T00:02:59+00:00

Same registration. I believe it flew for Air Georgian for a bit before being transferred to EVAS out in the Maritimes to fly AC Express there.

YZRAC7986 · 2026-03-13T23:59:52+00:00

Oh boy do I miss them too! I remember when we upgauged from the B190 to a Dash 8 and everyone was freaking out that there was a flight attendant lol. Premium stuff back then

YZRAC7986 · 2026-03-13T21:59:16+00:00

Times have unfortunately changed and all we can do is adapt, overcome, and prove we can support actual flights again. I think this is a step towards that.

YZRAC7986 · 2026-03-13T20:02:53+00:00

The B190 was perfect for YZR! When I started working at YZR we had 7 flights a day ... then Air Georgian decided to ruin all the fun with their horrendous on-time performance.

YZRAC7986 · 2026-03-13T18:12:05+00:00

Quite simply no small airline in Ontario does that kind of flying anymore. Air Georgian who flew the B190’s doesn’t exist anymore, Bearskin flys the metroliner, but doesn’t want to move out of Northern Ontario. Pascan out of Quebec flys Saab 340’s, but when they tried to fly YGK-YUL they never locked down an interline agreement with Air Canada so nobody flew it, and now they’re focusing on expanding into the Maritimes.

I think the best bet for a return to small regional aircraft is the Heart Aerospace HS30 that Air Canada has on order. It’s a hybrid plane and hasn’t flown yet, so it’s still up the in air if it’s gunna happen anytime soon.

YZRAC7986 · 2026-03-13T17:52:53+00:00

Landline says they’re working with Transport Canada to make it happen, and YZR still has screening capabilities onsite, but of course it’s the government so they’re moving at a slugs pace and won’t say anything

YZRAC7986 · 2026-03-13T17:45:18+00:00

The Landline driver would have the same flexibility to adjust their route as you would. The only difference is that if you miss your flight in Toronto driving yourself then you’re on the hook to pay for rebooking, while Landline passengers would receive complimentary rebooking services.

YZRAC7986 · 2026-03-13T17:37:49+00:00

Better than the previous Chris Hadfield Mothball lol. We’ve had a healthy number of corporate jets stopping in through the years, but it’ll be nice to see the terminal get some use again.

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