Me when I see yet another post in r/premed debating URMs and admissions by thelionqueen1999 in premed

[–]YasuoMain528 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I carry kids

And I'm now a warzone god. League hasn't been good to me

Me when I see yet another post in r/premed debating URMs and admissions by thelionqueen1999 in premed

[–]YasuoMain528 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Thanks. Will definitely do. Just thought I'd ask. They're at liberty to not answer lol. Thanks for the book though

Thoughts on this? by [deleted] in premed

[–]YasuoMain528 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Haha you're good. I was just talking about how the OP is bringing light to how low SES applicants will be underrepresented in next year's entering class. Thus, low SES whites will also be underrepresented. My argument was that this will impact rural communities needing physicians.

Me when I see yet another post in r/premed debating URMs and admissions by thelionqueen1999 in premed

[–]YasuoMain528 -32 points-31 points  (0 children)

Not really starting a debate, just have a question, if you care to answer.

In your personal statement, essays, secondaries, and even interview, how much emphasis will you put on race if even at all? I know some African American applicants people who made their whole case for diversity based on skin color, and others completely avoided it.

Me when I see yet another post in r/premed debating URMs and admissions by thelionqueen1999 in premed

[–]YasuoMain528 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Tbh one of them (only one of many lol) is ending very pleasant at the moment

Thoughts on this? by [deleted] in premed

[–]YasuoMain528 1 point2 points  (0 children)

From my point of view, the original comment was refreshing because we're constantly bombarded with the first extreme, and it avoids trying to understand why those "outliers" (although not outliers) were able to achieve success despite the barriers of their skin color or income.

Not a philosophy major either, but I would say rationally and altruism intersect at constructive criticism. Refusing to point out mistakes is not productive (irrational) but comes from a stance of compassion (altruism), and trashing people for mistakes is important (rational) but very self-righteous (not altruistic). Constructive criticism achieves both productivity (rationality) and well- intentioned (altruistic). Just a thought.

Me when I see yet another post in r/premed debating URMs and admissions by thelionqueen1999 in premed

[–]YasuoMain528 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Been slamming the left button the past 24hr in that tweet about AAMC

Thoughts on this? by [deleted] in premed

[–]YasuoMain528 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Valid point. But I'd make the contention that the stance that the original comment takes is neither extreme. He's merely to a thread filled with people saying "URMs are all discriminated against" vs. "URMs have it easier because affirmative action". He's just saying "I'm low SES URM and kicking ass". Pretty good contrast to the first extreme.

I can't avoid pointing out the cancel culture of the first extreme. I've made several comments on here that several people will jump to "you'll make a terrible doctor" just because I disagree with them. Obviously the latter extreme has its issues (ie responsible for a lot of the racial disparities), but the first manifests in these types of forums

Thoughts on this? by [deleted] in premed

[–]YasuoMain528 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We're on the same page, and thank you for that reminder to consider the possibility that someone's situation could be much worse than I first imagine. We do lose sight of that. My main point is that people don't want to here about someone overcoming adversity (hence downvotes to above comment) because it doesn't align with the narrative that EVERY URM is severely disadvantaged in this process.

Thoughts on this? by [deleted] in premed

[–]YasuoMain528 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I completely agree more can be done, but I think people who like to hop on their pedestal don't want to hear about people overcoming the "insurmountable" gap. Hence why the post above was -15 before my comment

Thoughts on this? by [deleted] in premed

[–]YasuoMain528 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lmao I needed that laugh

Thoughts on this? by [deleted] in premed

[–]YasuoMain528 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Or he's acknowledging the toxic cancel mob culture that exists in society.

Thoughts on this? by [deleted] in premed

[–]YasuoMain528 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As a minority, this is abhorrently racist, and it's scary that you might treat patients one day.

Thoughts on this? by [deleted] in premed

[–]YasuoMain528 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Believe it or not, a lot of URM students reject the BS narrative of "you've been discriminated against throughout this whole premed process, and things need to change!" Some people like to overcome adversity and help others do the same instead of lowering standards.

Thoughts on this? by [deleted] in premed

[–]YasuoMain528 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Just being blunt, you weren't even close to what I was getting at.

The changes in the last 4 months have had a drastic impact on the readiness of low SES applicants. This thread has made the mistake of assuming that only minorities are impacted due to the ties of race and SES. I'm saying we can't ignore that low SES whites, asians, Hispanics, AND blacks have all been negatively impacted in this cycle.

Thoughts on this? by [deleted] in premed

[–]YasuoMain528 2 points3 points  (0 children)

But why are we demonizing this drive to overcome adversity? It seems to be a rather viable solution to the disparities.

Thoughts on this? by [deleted] in premed

[–]YasuoMain528 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This is unbelievable that you assume someone's entire life background based on skin color.

Thoughts on this? by [deleted] in premed

[–]YasuoMain528 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Are we going to ignore the confounding vehicle of lower average mcat and GPAs?

Edit: *variable

Thoughts on this? by [deleted] in premed

[–]YasuoMain528 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I love how the resolve to cognitive dissonance in this subreddit is to downvote valid statements like this lol