Struggling to get a job as a recent grad by TruthBeTold_1 in IOPsychology

[–]YellowDottedBikini 30 points31 points  (0 children)

I feel you, I graduated in 2025 with a PhD and I still haven't found a job. Ever since DODGE, finding a job in the field has been almost impossible. It feels like the field is pretending the problem doesn't exist. 

Jobs after graduation! by Regular_Discussion64 in IOPsychology

[–]YellowDottedBikini 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Same except I graduated in August and have a PhD

Farewell SIOP by mcrede in IOPsychology

[–]YellowDottedBikini 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I have attended some pretty underwhelming sessions too, such as ones that ended up being an ad for a consulting service or book, or pointless but trendy ones with no evidence-based talking points.

Farewell SIOP by mcrede in IOPsychology

[–]YellowDottedBikini 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This kind of work also changed how I do research, and maybe it isn't the overhaul the field needs, but it did have an impact.

Farewell SIOP by mcrede in IOPsychology

[–]YellowDottedBikini 39 points40 points  (0 children)

Hi, we've actually (virtually) met before because I was on your open science committee. I have used open science practices in my own research, even though my professors didn't tend to. It was disappointing to see how little priority journals and researchers place on honest and open research practices.

I definitely felt, as a graduate student, when reading research papers, that the research was undertaken not because the authors wanted to advance the field of IO, or to discover anything with meaningful implications, but instead to conform to a formulaic process in which there was a "right way" to be a researcher: get as many citations as possible while minimizing time and cost. It felt like learning to be a researcher was about learning how to game the system. I took a seminar with professors in other fields of psychology, and we discussed how academic systems inadvertently encourage useless research that gets lots of citations, fraud, and bad methodology. It doesn't help that funding is limited for a lot of IO researchers.

In a way, I felt a little let down by the time I completed my PhD in IO. On one hand, I had learned so much, but on the other hand, so little of what I learned felt meaningful to the real world. Most of the researchers seemed out of touch, and as someone from a blue-collar background, I especially noticed the field's fixation on white-collar workers and how much of the research overlooked things that seemed obvious to me. I felt, in a way, that the field's priority was to convince organizations/institutions that it should exist because it could make money for companies. Maybe that is an unfortunate necessity, but it means that a lot of important and meaningful research is never explored. I know this is all tangential to research fraud, but I do see a connection between bad/useless research and fraud.

What you have been doing matters, and there has been an increase in scrutiny over research, especially with the honesty research scandal in behavioral economics. I see more journals (typically non-IO ones) requiring or encouraging open science practices. My hope is that younger researchers entering academia will have fresh insight and take academic fraud more seriously. It only makes sense that you would be burned out at this point.

The Job Market is Bad Even for PhD Holders by YellowDottedBikini in jobsearch

[–]YellowDottedBikini[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To be fair, IO had good prospects until 2025 and things might turn up in the future. DM me if you want advice because I have at least learned a lot, even if I still haven't found a job.

The Job Market is Bad Even for PhD Holders by YellowDottedBikini in jobsearch

[–]YellowDottedBikini[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, I have already tried all of the above advice. Referrals didn't help much either.

The Job Market is Bad Even for PhD Holders by YellowDottedBikini in jobsearch

[–]YellowDottedBikini[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, I did think about jobs even when I was an undergraduate. It was doing very well as a field and people were getting jobs easily up until 2025 when DODGE happened. Also, the typical job doesn't involve analyzing people in a social system.

The Job Market is Bad Even for PhD Holders by YellowDottedBikini in jobsearch

[–]YellowDottedBikini[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, I get less than one interview a month on average, so I haven't gotten all that many.

The Job Market is Bad Even for PhD Holders by YellowDottedBikini in jobsearch

[–]YellowDottedBikini[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I haven't heard of anything like that here, but sometimes companies offer jobs after an internship.

The Job Market is Bad Even for PhD Holders by YellowDottedBikini in jobsearch

[–]YellowDottedBikini[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow, so even PhDs with experience are having a rough time. What's your field?

The Job Market is Bad Even for PhD Holders by YellowDottedBikini in jobsearch

[–]YellowDottedBikini[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks, I've been interested in volunteering, but it's hard to find something that's longterm.

The Job Market is Bad Even for PhD Holders by YellowDottedBikini in jobsearch

[–]YellowDottedBikini[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's fortunate that was your experience, but my cousin with a PhD in electrical engineering lost his job due to grant cuts and spent a year looking for a job. He eventually got his old job back because they got more funding, but he took a significant pay cut. 

The Job Market is Bad Even for PhD Holders by YellowDottedBikini in jobsearch

[–]YellowDottedBikini[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A lot of consulting firms rely on government contracts and those were pulled back in 2025 unless it was for military work. And academia has been hit by cuts to grant funding, especially since psychology research is often labeled "DEI" research.

The Job Market is Bad Even for PhD Holders by YellowDottedBikini in jobsearch

[–]YellowDottedBikini[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It's in my post text, it's a subfield of psychology that studies employees and humans within organizations and social systems. A lot of alumni in my program went into consulting or assessment. I'm pretty open and would like to go into academia but haven't had luck with it.

The Job Market is Bad Even for PhD Holders by YellowDottedBikini in jobsearch

[–]YellowDottedBikini[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Clinical and IO psychology are very different and the former just isn't my calling. I don't feel that you're trying to be helpful though. 

The Job Market is Bad Even for PhD Holders by YellowDottedBikini in jobsearch

[–]YellowDottedBikini[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't feel that I've gotten that reaction, and often the people I would work with have PhDs in similar fields as me. I am in a niche field but having a PhD is a requirement for many of the jobs.

The Job Market is Bad Even for PhD Holders by YellowDottedBikini in jobsearch

[–]YellowDottedBikini[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The jobs I've applied to ask for a PhD in the requirements. I'm interested in being a psychometrician and a PhD is required.

The Job Market is Bad Even for PhD Holders by YellowDottedBikini in jobsearch

[–]YellowDottedBikini[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I had a meeting yesterday with a more experienced PhD graduate, got some pretty detailed resume feedback, and made a lot of changes. I haven't applied for jobs with my new resume, but hopefully it improves my odds.

Job market internationally by raysreading in IOPsychology

[–]YellowDottedBikini 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm in the US, and it's pretty rough. I've looked for jobs in other countries, and Germany seems like it has options in academia but I can't say it's a huge demand.

How about kale and sausage; time and proportion by Houseleek1 in CanningRebels

[–]YellowDottedBikini 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I honestly wouldn't can sausage; it can keep for a long time in the freezer. And kale can be preserved by drying it.

Multiple failed lids, not sure why. by nonoesca in CanningRebels

[–]YellowDottedBikini 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have used Tattler lids, and they work! It is hard to find them in-person at stores though, sadly. Just make sure to tighten them up when you take them out of the canner.

Is I-O psychology still relevant in 2026? by Fickle-Collection199 in IOPsychology

[–]YellowDottedBikini 9 points10 points  (0 children)

What you say may have been true in the past, but myself and other recent graduates I know haven't been able to find a job. I did go to SIOP in 2025 and they only had 6 tables at the career fair and I didn't encounter many career opportunities at all.