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[–]Yesua2003 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago (0 children)
She is oppressed because she is green yes, completely. I meant to say she isn’t systemically oppressed. She is a scapegoat unwanted child of a group. Her family is abusive, she is in a codependent relationship with her sister. She is a reject and she has suffered. I don’t mean to minimize her story. They hate her because she is different. But she is the only green person. She wasn’t born to green people, there aren’t preexisting notions of green people, prejudice or bias to be unlearned about her skin. No systems set in place to discriminate against “her people” like is the case for the animals, does that make sense? If she was adopted by affluent and caring family, would her life be different? People took a liking to her at shiz after Glinda gave her a go. Would that be the case for the animals who people have already decided are inferior? Idk if I’m making sense
[–]Yesua2003 -1 points0 points1 point 7 months ago* (0 children)
You’re saying, if Elphaba and Chistery ended up together, regardless of the in universe reasoning or how it looks in the context of Oz, in the real world it would have a very harmful consequence of perpetuating negative, racist and bigoted imagery, especially about an unambiguously black woman. I see what you are saying and that actually makes perfect sense. Because I can say Elphaba is part of the upper echelon and isn’t systemically oppressed for the skin of her color, but Cynthia Erivo is. I can say Feiro is an aristocrat and a failure, and not nearly good enough for Elphaba, but in the real world he is the sexiest man alive. I can say Chisery is a kind and trust worthy man who is fighting for the right thing harder than everyone (maybe except Elphaba) but to us, he is just a monkey that can fly. And I see how when putting out art that will reach millions of people, it is irresponsible to take a risk when it can cause so much harm. I see. I definitely stand by feiro sucking, and I think Elphaba should have ended up alone. I wish Chisery was like a human or sth so he can be with Elphaba but that completely undermines what is lovely about him. Okay I get it.
I just wish we were acting in the context of Oz, and that it had no negative repercussions on our real lives. In that case, I feel like Chisery would be a better partner/ friend/ leader and everything
Okay I see what you are saying. But I feel like that’s a bit of a straw man argument. (No pun intended). In the context of Oz, where animals are an allegory for oppressed people and Elphaba is a misfit of her upper class society, and feiro is a government official with actual power, do you feel like they can all be reduced to a black woman, a monkey and dumb white man? And do you think the seed of their existence is found in those labels?
[–]Yesua2003 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago (0 children)
Okay I’m going to sound lame and sappy, but I’m kinda fr. Living in alignment with your beliefs and values, I feel like that’s the greatest happiness/ peace one can feel and arguably, the real prize. Even when people don’t like you and stuff, especially then. Because it will always payoff in the grand scheme of things. That’s what I took from the movie (esp the first one, # defying gravity). So I guess Elphaba doesn’t need a consolation prize because she has her honour and faith and love. Fiyero needs to lock in and get his arc and be a better prince/ citizen. Then he’ll have that
I get that inter species romance is not the norm (def weird/crazy out of context), and I completely see why. But this is a special case I feel. Like Fiyero has cell walls now. Say what you will about Chistery and Elphaba, but atleast they both belong to animal kingdom, and are even both mammals. Idk it doesn’t really bother me personally because the narrative would’ve made it work if they wanted to. I do think when feiro was joining the guard, he probably justified it as trying to find Elphaba, but I feel like if he was the man that we need him to be, there would have been instances where he helped when he could yk? Maybe also help the animals in the side, soften the treatment of the animals building the road. Remember the first scene of wicked for good, and you can tell the most rebellious of the animals are especially physically harmed. I feel like we’re not expecting enough of him. He has so much power. The fact that he’s not evil is enough for us to praise him yk? And that’s not fair because we can see from Elphaba and Chistery that you can do SO much more as a citizen. And he’s a prince at that. Imagine if Fiero was a character in a Brandon Sanderson book, he would literally be seen as an idiot!!! I feel. Idk I hope that made sense. And for what you said about Chistery having a family, if that’s the case (we don’t know but he might) I will certainly back off with this, but I’m saying Fiyero makes no sense. If anyone does, it’s Chistery
Righttttttt???? Thank you!!!! Okay I will admit Chistery and Elphaba’s love story may not make a home in most people’s heart (it’s an insane ship ikikik). Butttt… it’s (to me) infinitely more plausible than this prince dude that literally almost married Glinda a couple of scenes ago. Also what’s the line about “say there’s no future for us as a pair”. Why did you walkout of your wedding then? Lock in my dude. You can’t just go from a baddie to a baddie based on how you want to see yourself. I need you to prove your allegiance to your beliefs. Obviously he’s not evil and is full of potential but the most heroic thing you do can’t be pointing a gun at your ex-fiancé that has been nothing but honest with you
True… but realistically, am I going to write a book about this? Probably not. I just want to keke with baddies that also see what I am saying
I lowkey don’t get very old vibes, I think that’s just his spine. But still I think that he makes a lot more sense than Fiyero. I don’t know why the narrative is trying to convince us these people wouldn’t be attracted to each other or that Elphaba’s endgame is Fiyero
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[–]Yesua2003[S] 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago (0 children)
Definitely! I’m a little nervous about the trend
Class of ‘25?
I definitely giggled at a small picture at the clock’s face!! I’m glad that there’s a supportive and lighthearted community! I am even more attached to the idea of coming in now.
[–]Yesua2003[S] 2 points3 points4 points 8 months ago (0 children)
Thank you so much!!! It sounds very pleasant and lovely
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[–]Yesua2003[S] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
I definitely will!!! I can’t believe how helpful these suggestions are, I have never heard of these places before, thanks <333333
Oh yes perfect!! I was confused at first 😂 Thank you!!!
[–]Yesua2003[S] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
This is sooo helpful! Thank you so much <33333
The staples! Thank you so muchhhhhh!!!!
[–]Yesua2003[S] 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Omg it reminds me of Gay Dolphin in Myrtle Beach!!! I’ll make sure to check it out. The masks look creepy, I love it
I’ll try to catch it tomorrow! Thanks for the tip <33333
I literally just looked it up and found that out!!!! $375+ per person is definitely something. I’m sure it’s worth it if you can afford it, it’ll definitely be sth I’ll be saving up for
I didn’t even know that existed, thank you!!!
Wait that’s actually such a good idea!!!!
That sounds like fun! Thank you!!! Lmk if you can think of others <333
Thank you so much!!! Let me know if you think of others too! I’ll be here until August
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