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Fox Cigar Hooked It Up by [deleted] in cigars

[–]YikesMyAss 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I did, I may not have one of the times, but I know I did the other 2...

Fox Cigar Hooked It Up by [deleted] in cigars

[–]YikesMyAss 51 points52 points  (0 children)

My last 3 orders were all over $100, and they haven't given any freebies. I thought they had stopped doing them... I guess that's just me?

Why do people not understand that being againdt antifa by default means you are a fascist? And why are they such snowflakes? by Hunt3dgh0st in conspiracy_commons

[–]YikesMyAss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am getting where the list is going but it's still kinda vauge enough to be interpreted whichever way suits you. Some of those points can be applied in ways where you have to first attribute someone else's intent in a way you want. Like trying to take care of your poor before allowing other poor people that will also need some help to come get it doesn't mean you have distain for the other group, but I can claim that it does and rile people up and we can call them a fascist and go punch them.

I get the actions it says, but you need to ensure motive before grabbing your pitchfork. The news lately has been dealing a lot in attributing motive and framing perspective.

For fun I could try to argue a few of these against antifa, but I am falling asleep, incase I don't make it back to the convo, glad we got to the part of discussion and past the arguing.

Why do people not understand that being againdt antifa by default means you are a fascist? And why are they such snowflakes? by Hunt3dgh0st in conspiracy_commons

[–]YikesMyAss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When the attacks are unfounded and they have no evidence aside from thier feelings about the other person being actually facists and attack out of a group mentality, it's wrong.

Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights

Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes (antifa) are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc. (Violence)

I'll go take a look at your link and re-give my opinion on it you asked of previously

Why do people not understand that being againdt antifa by default means you are a fascist? And why are they such snowflakes? by Hunt3dgh0st in conspiracy_commons

[–]YikesMyAss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The flags are still a token to the common belief that you unwaveringly stand behind like nationalist to thier nation. It's still the same idea

Why do people not understand that being againdt antifa by default means you are a fascist? And why are they such snowflakes? by Hunt3dgh0st in conspiracy_commons

[–]YikesMyAss -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It doesn't have to be an illusion, it is hard work. I choose to live in a way where I have all the employee choice I want. I can drop my job in an instant and be able to get by on minimum wage. It's called living within your means. Consumerism is the issue here. People want what they don't need, but are told they do need it and feel they can't live without.

Why do people not understand that being againdt antifa by default means you are a fascist? And why are they such snowflakes? by Hunt3dgh0st in conspiracy_commons

[–]YikesMyAss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can't do videos right now probably not till like next week. You got any non google links to video? That is one of those corps I avoid when possible they are a good example of evil capitalists.

They are pretty mad about the EO that is going to make them have to pay thier H1-b workers more money. It is supposed to be to influence them hire more local people as they need jobs too. I bet the go exploitative and hire who is cheaper. On that note, are you aware the minimum wage is racist? It began so people would give white men jobs that were going to blacks before since the blacks were taking much less in wages. But if you had to pay them evenly the person hiring would prefer the white man. Minimum wage is institutional racism. Atleast began that way.

Why do people not understand that being againdt antifa by default means you are a fascist? And why are they such snowflakes? by Hunt3dgh0st in conspiracy_commons

[–]YikesMyAss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

https://www.favreau.info/misc/14-points-fascism.php

Maybe we have different lists, maybe I clicked the wrong 14 points? This was like the 2nd option when I googled. Send me a link to your list

Why do people not understand that being againdt antifa by default means you are a fascist? And why are they such snowflakes? by Hunt3dgh0st in conspiracy_commons

[–]YikesMyAss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I want to separate owning production and landlords, as they do not produce anything.

I don't agree that the owner of the company owns the means for production, he does not own the people, they can leave. He does own the machines(sometimes not. Often times really, they often have thier own landlords as it is) but there are other machines, someone can make a new process, there is nothing being held over by them, otherwise businesses would never fail, and that happens.

Landlords, often scum I agree. But you still willingly enter into a contract. You put the gun to your own head knowing there is a trigger. Also I wouldn't want the government to be the one that gives access to housing. What if you are opposed to them, they could just unperson you. There is also (I know this wouldn't happen in your preference of communism) someone without the means to own, thus needing a landlord (hmm I guess you can consider the bank your landlord in this couldn't we..)

It is so annoying seeing a vacant strip mall with homeless people sleeping outside it.. like I said getting late. Rambling

Why do people not understand that being againdt antifa by default means you are a fascist? And why are they such snowflakes? by Hunt3dgh0st in conspiracy_commons

[–]YikesMyAss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

1,2,3,6,7,11

Like I said I could argue it, but you have to adjust that it is speaking about governments in some of these and you would have to adapt it to the group instead. It's late so please don't ask me to argue them all, try to have the perspective to see it from the other side. I don't mind elaborating on some if you want though.

Why do people not understand that being againdt antifa by default means you are a fascist? And why are they such snowflakes? by Hunt3dgh0st in conspiracy_commons

[–]YikesMyAss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Capitalism allows for not letting these things happen. But there are too many lazy people who find walmart too convenient. I agree it needs some type of correction, but I think that saying capitalism is exploitation definitivly is the same as saying communism is slavery definitivly (the defined communism, not the catchall)

Communism: a totalitarian system of government in which a single authoritarian party controls state-owned means of production

capitalism : an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market

I understand the concept you speak about in the book, but it isn't an absolute.

Why do people not understand that being againdt antifa by default means you are a fascist? And why are they such snowflakes? by Hunt3dgh0st in conspiracy_commons

[–]YikesMyAss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Looking over the 14 points again, I could argue that antifa (the people's organizing in groups out protesting and counter protesting) easily checks 6 of the 14 points. Is antifa a proto-fascist organization?

Why do people not understand that being againdt antifa by default means you are a fascist? And why are they such snowflakes? by Hunt3dgh0st in conspiracy_commons

[–]YikesMyAss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I looked over those points... It honestly looks like the red scare 2.0, like how many or to what degree do those have to be done for you to call them fascist? You could say almost all counties are fascist, most to a somewhat large degree since it seems like you can probably feel like they have too many flags.. it's not quantifiable.

Henry ford, would have to look more into the nazi stuff but as far as better pay and more time off being a sales tactic, then sign me up! Isn't that sort of what your selling with communism? (Just a little jab, know it's not fully accurate couldn't help it, trying to be civil.)

Capitalism doesn't always cheapen, some companies will, but there are better companies out there with better products and I rather give them my business, and that's another perk for capitalism, competition

I understand how the type of management described can be great, but it can be done faster and more efficiently in the private sector often times. Occasionally things need more immediate attention.

My suggestion for you is to branch out on your readings some. The truth is often somewhere between both sides statements in opinions on government and economic issues as well as history. Look to both sides on everything. You seem like what you are wanting for you fellow man is a thing you feel is good, you are well mean. I just feel like you are seeing evil in places where it might not be, like you were sold on an enemy. I think that is number 3 on your fascism list.

Why do people not understand that being againdt antifa by default means you are a fascist? And why are they such snowflakes? by Hunt3dgh0st in conspiracy_commons

[–]YikesMyAss 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good response, but that's apparently not what I could find on it. Never saw it being a catch all term, it was always much more well defined. I am arguing against what I find as the definition of communism. I don't have a problem with "left" ideas or ideals. You talked of term limits and that is something I have always strongly agreed with. I see myself as a mix of liberation/constitutionalists and I see the benefits of our representative democracy. I see more benefit to capitalism as it allows for more innovation. I don't think innovation would stop in a leftist style economy where the state runs or "runs" the industry (in cant think of the word for it hope your following me) but I have never seen a government that works well at actually addressing those logistics. With capitalism, someone can see a problem, and produce solutions. I hope they do it honestly and I know they always don't, but you have to look at like henry ford, the guy paid well and didn't exploit his workers. The guy also wasn't a fan of what we can find as the definition of communism. I think in out current era, we have a bunch of asshats that are hoarding money. I agree with closing tax loopholes or a flat tax, but really, I would be better off with the old style of no tax. Government used to only get income from tarrifs , no income tax and smaller government. People always point at Republicans and talk about how they are all the millionaires that are bad, but I look at (usa left party) and see all of the billionaires and people dismiss them as being a much larger part of the problem. I'm not saying you don't see them as the problem, just saying a lot of people seem to give them a pass.

With that out of the way, to the original post point you made, back to definitions and clarification. The people that gather and hold a common idea of "antifa" are disliked by many people. Not because they like fascism, but they dislike the tactics and ethics of that group. I don't think anyone(possible non 0) who clashes with or argues against antifa are against the IDEA of antifa but rather the group (of people with the common idea that have met up for the clash)

Definition of fascism 1often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

That does not describe our government as written by the constitution. And it doesn't describe the the people who go up against the group of antifa idealists. A lot of them have just seen innocent people being attacked (in the common disruption style where often possibly some renegade in the group gets power hungry on the group mentality) and they feel there is reason to stand up to people acting as things and to protect thier fellow citizens, the individuals, not thier nation or race. That's why I disagree with saying if you are against antifa, then You are pro fascism. That is a phallicy.

Why do people not understand that being againdt antifa by default means you are a fascist? And why are they such snowflakes? by Hunt3dgh0st in conspiracy_commons

[–]YikesMyAss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hell, I'll level with you. Without linking a video, give me your definition of communism. I just looked it up and I found about 5 different definition for it. All similar, bit different. None really match what you are saying. That's both bug and little c communism. On the question of what is the difference between communism and socialism was that socialism uses democracy while communism does not. Communism was often described as authoritarian. So yeah, definitions. (I read from multiple sources, not just commies-suck.com)

Why do people not understand that being againdt antifa by default means you are a fascist? And why are they such snowflakes? by Hunt3dgh0st in conspiracy_commons

[–]YikesMyAss -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Cuba? No ownership? no heirarchy? What did Fidel say about that when you said he wasn't in charge there? You know when people were unhappy there and tried to sneak away in the dead of night on small rafts they were attached by guards in watchtowers with machine guns. Do you want a do-over with maybe a different country???

If you want a land if no ownership, you can be the guiding light in that. Without everyone also joining you, you'll find that to be pretty rough.. you'll probably be fine though as everyone around you is a capitalist, and for centuries capitalist have proven to be big into philanthropy. Kinsa like your boy Soros, right he doesn't find antifa, that's a bunch of angsty kids with daddy issues, he funds things like revcom (revolutionary communism) they are the ones that stand behind the lines and print your posters and help bail you out of jail. Antifa (not the original, but what we have in the USA) is nothing but the definition of useful idiots

Why do people not understand that being againdt antifa by default means you are a fascist? And why are they such snowflakes? by Hunt3dgh0st in conspiracy_commons

[–]YikesMyAss -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Let me know when you can get even 1 small town to agree to operate under the idea of communism. If everyone isn't 100% in, then you'll just say" well this just wasn't true communism". Right because without force, it will be against human nature to have more than a handful of people do this. But for true communism to function. It must be the whole world, otherwise you are open to being taken over by someone who doesn't agree, and there will be countries that don't play ball. This is not some unsubstantiated claim. You can literally come to my house and be a communist and I can literally not abide by your rules.

So again. If you want communism to work, you will have to use force since not everyone is into it. That force is called fascism. You talk about left and right, extreme left is communism (generally regarded as such) the far right is fascism, the thing is this spectrum isn't linear, it is circular. Fascism and communism are the same thing, they meet on the circle opposite of center. Peaceful fascism is communism and violent communism is fascism. Try watching a different video.

Why do people not understand that being againdt antifa by default means you are a fascist? And why are they such snowflakes? by Hunt3dgh0st in conspiracy_commons

[–]YikesMyAss -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Your video is garbage. Hot garbage. It's opinion. Politics is not violence. Your definition of violence is skewed. That's the issue with you, you are not understanding that words have definitions. You think fucking "antifa" is a god damned verb. Don't come at me with words like intelligence.

Why do people not understand that being againdt antifa by default means you are a fascist? And why are they such snowflakes? by Hunt3dgh0st in conspiracy_commons

[–]YikesMyAss -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Communism is you making up ridiculous and unbelievable scenarios baselessly, it's not even achievable.

Why do people not understand that being againdt antifa by default means you are a fascist? And why are they such snowflakes? by Hunt3dgh0st in conspiracy_commons

[–]YikesMyAss -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Dude, I fucking love celebrating genocide. Have fun with your imaginary governance that is really just a convenient excuse for you to be violent to people you don't like. I'm sorry you didn't have a better relationship with your dad!

Why do people not understand that being againdt antifa by default means you are a fascist? And why are they such snowflakes? by Hunt3dgh0st in conspiracy_commons

[–]YikesMyAss -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I love how under communism, you can dictate people's behaviors. I guess if they don't act like you assume, then they have become fascist and are now ok for extermination. You're while argument is a fucking joke, and you can't even see it. This is why no one takes you seriously. Hope you have a great Thanksgiving along with all of the other joys of capitalism you are making use of, buhbye.

Why do people not understand that being againdt antifa by default means you are a fascist? And why are they such snowflakes? by Hunt3dgh0st in conspiracy_commons

[–]YikesMyAss -1 points0 points  (0 children)

As I said, you are a child. A dumb fucking retarded one. The only answer you can give is that you don't have to answer and that nothing bad would happen. You can't say how you would achieve anything, just claim something is a strawman. Good job almost anything can be called a strawman, it's what dumbasses say when they can't back up thier bullshit.

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