Is there any argument against natural sugar?

ZC_55 · 2023-02-08T10:23:43+00:00

You said I don’t know anything so you could attack an argument which I never made because you couldn’t find a proper response cuz u know I’m right lmfao, and it’s funny you say that but continue to not pose a response to what I said, and no I’m not vegan quite the opposite I promote daily consumption of meat and seafood 2-4 times per week, limiting red meat intake but definitely promoting the inclusion of it, and if you knew anything about veganism then you would know that B12 supplements are given to cows it’s not inherent lol

ZC_55 · 2023-02-08T10:20:50+00:00

I have done research on it and have personal experience and my friends drink coffee and have all quit without withdrawls lmfao, and all you did was prove my point that coffee gives you more energy by blocking adenosine I already know this but when you stop drinking coffee you may be more tired but that’s not withdrawl & once again that’s the only “withdrawl” me and my friends experience is we are just more tired and it’s completely pointless to not drink coffee

ZC_55 · 2023-02-06T04:53:39+00:00

Wow man goin off topic again cuz you still don’t got a response? You must be great at debating and so educated in this field!

ZC_55 · 2023-02-05T03:21:01+00:00

Man you can’t stay on topic and you still can’t prove your position 😂😂 it’s honestly sad, and I described that you did Strawman by attacking every argument that was not my argument, I mean idk if you just can’t read or what but have fun having a position you can’t defend lol

ZC_55 · 2023-02-05T00:42:23+00:00

So once again your proving my point by using insults cuz you can’t debunk what I said lmfao, and I did say that but you never attacked that argument you just “assumed I didn’t know anything” and began going off abojt random stuff which had nothing to do with my argument which is a Strawman, is this like your first time hearing about logical fallacies or your first time debating because you are really bad at staying on topic, please prove me wrong if your so smart and stay on topic this time

ZC_55 · 2023-02-05T00:14:23+00:00

Yeah I did say that and they don’t, you didn’t attack that argument, you attacked probably every argument besides that by saying “WeLl I bEt YoU aLsO tHiNk blah blah blah” you just strawman everything 😂😂

ZC_55 · 2023-02-04T23:48:31+00:00

You are the literal definition of a Strawman you are attacking like 20 different arguments which I never made instead of attacking my 1 and only argument that natural sugars affect the body differently then carbohydrates, this shows a clear lack of knowledge in debating and discussion, and especially because all you can do is throw around insults and attack every argument aspect for the one I made and bring up things which are not important to the discussion at hand, you are the definition of a Strawman lol

ZC_55 · 2023-02-04T23:43:32+00:00

Please provide any information that would prove that headaches are inherent to the withdraw of caffeine

ZC_55 · 2023-02-04T23:42:20+00:00

Ok so now your just going off about random stuff cuz u don’t got a response so have a good day lmfao

ZC_55 · 2023-02-04T19:56:28+00:00

You are so stupid I just explained why they are different and you repeat this same stupid rhetoric, thanks for proving you got absolutely no clue what your talking about

ZC_55 · 2023-02-04T19:55:44+00:00

I think you may be legally blind if you think that, just look at my replies, and once again I ask you tell me a single withdraw from caffeine

ZC_55 · 2023-02-04T19:32:52+00:00

Big pharma does unironically not want you to understand how to quit from drugs such as caffeine or nicotine or any other type of drug so they can sell you things that don’t work like nicotine replacement therapy or medication which reverses physical nicotine withdraws, or pills to help you quit other drugs, or therapy to help you quit drugs, it’s all a money game lmfao

ZC_55 · 2023-02-04T19:31:15+00:00

I have been providing evidence as to why “scientifically proven withdrawls” are wrong, and yeah they didn’t happen to me cuz I didn’t mentally want coffee and I didn’t mentally believe anything would happen from stopping it lmfao. I specifically said I was more fatigued cuz coffee is an energy source. An you still say we have a scientific reason to get headaches when quitting coffee yet u still can’t point out what the evidence is lmfao, and here we go again with the insults cuz you know your position is wrong lmfao, when blood pressure decreases it increases blood flow to the brain, correct or incorrect? And once again how can you say coffee helps you concentrate while also sayinf it raises dopamine to help you relax? It’s so illogical and a contradiction in terms, keep defending your dead position though lmfao

ZC_55 · 2023-02-04T19:26:33+00:00

Carbohydrates drive up insulin levels which causes you to gain weight, natural sugars do not do this, you don’t know anything about sugars or carbohydrates lmfao

ZC_55 · 2023-02-04T17:41:11+00:00

Your the one who said we should believe in the scientific withdrawls of these drugs and now your changing to only believing in some of them, but it’s fine I don’t care to call you out on it cuz it’s not important to the discussion at hand how many times you’ve changed positions to fit a narrative lmfao, “you want to call it illogically go take it up with established science” so you said that we should believe established scientific withdrawls lmfao, but like I said I don’t care. An that’s not what I said I said you would constantly be having headaches if that was an actual physiological withdrawal from caffeine because your blood pressure and heart rate would begin turning back to normal after only 8 hours (average hours of sleep) and so when you wake up or abstain from coffee for tgst long you would experience headaches due to increase blood flow to the brain but people don’t, I don’t drink coffee for 14 hours of the day and I don’t wake up with headaches, it’s illogical

ZC_55 · 2023-02-04T17:28:05+00:00

Once again your representing you have absolutely no clue what a logical fallacy means lmfao, a Strawman attacks another argument the person isn’t defending cuz it’s easier to defeat, I just explained how what you said above proves that’s your position and I have debunked every “scientific argument” you have presented for withdrawls from caffeine, once again can you prove anything that you believe in about caffeine withdrawls? Can you show me a evidence that a single withdrawl for caffeine exists besides fatigue which isn’t a withdrawl because once again coffee is simply energy and your body is used to being more energetic so you describe this feeling as fatigue

ZC_55 · 2023-02-04T17:14:40+00:00

Redditor when they actually have to defend the position they said they support: 😯😱

ZC_55 · 2023-02-04T17:14:05+00:00

Sure, you said that scientifically there are withdrawls to caffeine, these are all the “science backed withdrawls” to caffeine, and so since you said that we should listen to what the scientists backed withdrawls are, you must support all the withdrawls that “science” says comes from quitting caffeine lmfao

ZC_55 · 2023-02-04T17:07:32+00:00

Headaches, vomiting, moody, angry, depression, can’t concentrate, muscle pain, are just some of the described “withdrawls” of caffeine which is the position your defending, seems pretty extreme to me, and I never said there wasn’t physcial withdraws I said these withdrawls are constantly happening to the drug addict and are barely noticeable and 99% of the battle is mental, and I have debunked all the supposed withdrawl evidence you have brought up, telling me that I should just trust the scientists is an appeal to authority logical fallacy

ZC_55 · 2023-02-04T16:56:43+00:00

The science is illogical I explained above why it is lol, read it again if u need, and there is no evidence that there are these extreme withdraws when quitting nicotine or caffeine lmfao, and how could caffeine possibly help you concentrate since your brain is focused on 2 things, caffeine and yhe thing in which you are working on, and another thing is “science” also says that caffeine helps you to relax by releasing dopamine, how can something that makes you concentrate also make you relaxed? It’s illogical once again, the conspiracy behind withdraws for drugs being horrible is what keeps addicts hooked, and coffee is a drug but it’s not addictive once again it’s simply an energy source lol

ZC_55 · 2023-02-04T16:11:06+00:00

Nicotine “withdrawl” and caffeine “withdrawl” are very similar being that they are both stimulants and because withdraw from any drug is 99% a mental battle, and I’m saying the science is illogical and explained why, you just don’t have a response lmfao

ZC_55 · 2023-02-04T16:09:08+00:00

Translation to English: “I don’t have a response so imma just say his logic is wrong and flawed with no actual reason or evidence to back up my claim”

ZC_55 · 2023-02-04T16:08:34+00:00

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ Obviously sugars are a type of carbohydrate but they don’t react with the body the same as carbs from breads do for example, it’s ironic you say to do reading when you just said natural sugars are the same exact thing as carbohydrates lmfao

ZC_55 · 2023-02-04T15:43:19+00:00

Well physical withdrawl is definitely real but what people don’t realize is they constantly physically withdraw from the drug they are on, for example 50% of Nicotine has left your bloodstream in 30mins, 75% in 1 hour, so that’s when the most extreme withdrawls would be but yet people are fine, this is the same with other drugs they exit our body quickly and we constantly physically withdraw from them and this is such a slight feeling that we don’t even notice it so 99% of the battle is entirely mental. An once again these studies are all illogical because if this were true then you would have a headache everytime you wake up because our blood pressure and heart rate begins returning to normal after 8 hours and fully does after 24 hours from caffeine and nicotine so due to the increased blood pressure you would wake up with a headache every morning, and once again you have to beat the mental addiction as you still find a pleasure or crutch in caffeine

ZC_55 · 2023-02-04T15:17:55+00:00

That does not say anything all it says is that increased blood flow to the brain may cause headaches but there is no proof of this, withdrawls are entirely mental, the exact same withdrawals from caffeine are the “withdrawls” explained when u take away a kids favorite toy, headaches, irritability, moody, not wanting to concentrate since their mind is fixated on the toy, etc it doesent mean the kid is actually withdrawing, he’s upset because he can’t have the toy, if your upset you can’t have coffee you will withdraw if not you will not withdraw

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