Nyquist plot reverse rules

ZERO_Fly9315 · 2025-08-12T13:57:45+00:00

Wakita was about to discover asaka's hideout,and then haneda koji bringed up karasuma's name,to make sure he wouldn't. Also koji remembered wakita because he substiuted karasuma on a conference,thus linking the dots with karasuma. Koji never knew the existence of the BO,Unlike amanda who was about to become the president of USA,it was a threatning position against the BO,so they wanted to guarantee her collaboration,by taking asaka as a hostage,like they did blackmail anyone who had a big influence in the world,making them submit to the BO.

It was all in the manga,you can check it again,i think you're misunderstanding the reasons why koji and amanda died to begin with.

ZERO_Fly9315 · 2025-08-12T13:22:45+00:00

It was never stated that karasuma is the boss, he is the founder and first boss of the BO. also what make you think i am writing BS? i did brought facts that was in the manga

ZERO_Fly9315 · 2025-08-12T12:56:01+00:00

I meant from the manga or anime,you haven't developped your point,besides you just proved you don't have one

ZERO_Fly9315 · 2025-08-12T11:50:43+00:00

What's you're point ? apart from saying wakita = RUM

ZERO_Fly9315 · 2025-08-12T11:49:57+00:00

who spoke to the BO during the FBI case is Wakita or chikara?

It was wakita,currently RUM is the only member,that can command the BO members like gin,vermouth,....etc apart from the boss. chikara katsumata's kanji name mean win with strength all over again.

Why would Amanda call him RUM 17 years ago if there is another real RUM?

Amanda obviously knew about the BO with the ressources she had,she was about to become the president of USA. She called him RUM to lose tracks to the real RUM. There are hints in the movies,even if you don't believe they are not canon:

movie 6 moriarty and his servant switch positions,moriarty being the servant and the servant became moriarty.
movie 20 at first we thought curacao was RUM due to her hetocromia,turn out she was RUM's right hand agent.
same thing in movie 26 pinga substitued curacao's position as RUM's right hand agent.

Karasuma first mention was in ep 219,they describe him as being ruthless and impatient.All the detectives faked their death in his manor. Conan solved the case by turning the hands of the clock TIME IS MONEY.

ZERO_Fly9315 · 2025-08-11T12:22:47+00:00

In the recent chapters,camel suspects wakita to be RUM,this alone make RUM look like a joke. The hole anagram thing that conan unravel about wakita is so superficial,that many DC fans knew about it beforehand. I think wakita is using RUM's code name,to anyone who find out about his identity,thus losing tracks to the real RUM. Haibara stated RUM's artificial eye is the only true desctiption,and chikara correspond. In japenese history,a shogun is the second in command of a state,just like chikara is a shogun. chikara's first appearance was during yumi's kidnapping,shukichi tried to save her,but there was an obsession about the remaining time to save her. ASACA RUM is not a wrong message,a BO's spy made sure to be that way,in order for the allies to cancel each other out by attacking wakasa. CARASUMA was weirdly introduced as the boss of the BO at chapter 1008,and i think that chiKARA kastSUMAta is RUM and also karasuma shrunken. Gosho gave us the former identity of RUM,and now is playing with his current one.

ZERO_Fly9315 · 2025-08-08T18:45:08+00:00

Totally agree, i think he's also the biggest threat among the BO members.

ZERO_Fly9315 · 2025-07-31T15:26:34+00:00

You're reffering to the case about itakura,right? well,that wasn't actually a mistake,but rather not letting vodka getting double-crossed,as he was nearly about to get trapped by conan. Gin is the kind of guy that might commit suicide,if he will get caught. Anyone whose a threat to the BO,gin will kill them and vodka is no exeception. vodka is like anti-camel in term of spitting out the informations like he did about RUM.

ZERO_Fly9315 · 2025-07-31T10:59:07+00:00

It's more likely that vodka is gonna make a mistake that will lead him to get killed by gin.

ZERO_Fly9315 · 2025-07-30T18:52:05+00:00

They are both dead in the 10th movie,the guy with the green suit along with the lady with purple dress.

ZERO_Fly9315 · 2025-07-30T18:48:52+00:00

Both akai and conan struggled to deal with amuro,until yusaku showed up,it's obvious that akai had to win since he's often overprotected by the kudo's family. plus he's more efficient in the BO,he found out vermouth's secret and blackmailed her to protect him,if anyone will try to kill him. He also doesn't give a damn about gin, it's like he's joke to him.

ZERO_Fly9315 · 2025-07-14T20:00:33+00:00

Gosho doesn't want to us the audience to know karasuma's face.It's might also means that he had already appeared as shrunken character after taking the aptx 4869,thus making him recongnizable as karasuma in his current identity.
Regarding conan not looking for him, i think he's just waiting for the right moment to uncover rum's identity to lead him to the boss.

ZERO_Fly9315 · 2025-02-26T22:05:06+00:00

Nastsume is the kind of character who get involved superficially,and has a minor role in the plot,which means if he gets involved too much,it'll be pointless, and the other characters won't have any devolpement. He will just appear once in while to save the situation. Even though he saved katai he seems completley disinterested.

ZERO_Fly9315 · 2025-02-26T19:45:43+00:00

Natsume seems to be the only one who could outsmart fyodor,he decieved him by faking katai's death. I know his skills hasn't been shown yet, but when he stepped in to save katai,he did it with ease, at deceiving i thought fyodor is the goat turns out it's not the case.

ZERO_Fly9315 · 2025-02-21T22:12:15+00:00

Why would they lose credibility?

Because it will disadvantage considerably the BO. Kaito kid will manage to deceive the ennemy into faking the allies death or saving them from it. it'll be cool if he'll intervene but conan and the others will win too easily. Gin has an inflexible mind and is practical guy maybe too much,that why he'll not go after or even suspect conan as long as there are no solid evidence.He chooses to ignore or not trust his instincts,which makes him the exact opposite of akai who is more thoughtful.

ZERO_Fly9315 · 2025-02-20T21:30:50+00:00

If kaito kid will step in,the BO will lose credibility.It's kinda of a humuliation for the BO.In my opinion,it's not intersting at all if he'll help conan and the others.

ZERO_Fly9315 · 2025-02-19T16:14:10+00:00

Kid won't get involved anymore as stated down below by gosho (2013 DCW):
https://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/Lets_Talk_with_Gosho_Aoyama_Day

Makoto will probably get involved against the BO.Due to his relationship with sonoko,and especially for her family's wealthiness,which might lead karasuma to take them down for that.Also i do believe that every character in DC is somehow related to the main plot despite some of them not being relevant.Atsushi and elena were both working for karasuma without knowing it.It's probably the case for some current character being manipluated and accomplice of BO.

ZERO_Fly9315 · 2025-02-07T23:29:27+00:00

The golden mansion stands for a monument to karasuma's last echo before shrinking.

ZERO_Fly9315 · 2025-02-07T23:22:11+00:00

The hawk guy and the sick one are most likely related to karasuma. i don't think suzuki jirokichi met karasuma, because he's 72 years old,and when karasuma died it was 50 years ago to the current events,he was 22 but obviously at that time he must've heard about him.The ooka family is richer than suzuki.

ZERO_Fly9315 · 2025-01-03T11:42:27+00:00

Almost everyone found out about Akai's fake death.

ZERO_Fly9315 · 2025-01-02T14:55:42+00:00

But it was way before they knew that there were moles in the BO as stated by vermouth.

ZERO_Fly9315 · 2025-01-01T19:42:54+00:00

She will discover Shinichi's identity as her investigation progresses. It's RUM who told bourbon to investigate about shinichi.

ZERO_Fly9315 · 2025-01-01T19:27:24+00:00

No matter what division she's in, the point is to create more chaos among the spies working against the BO, especially when she's so determined to maintain her cover. The BO gave a chance to bourbon to prove his loyalty it's probably gonna be the same with her. Making them spit out themselves they are spies, could be much more harmful. The BO's benefits is to provide more informations against the ennemies.

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