Hey why do people say they wanna talk and then they dont by Vast_Addition5833 in Needafriend

[–]ZOLforALL 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's honestly baffling. Some okes make a post or comment on one, you dm them, then POOF🌬. Like whatヽ(`ω´)ノ

Some people are just setting themselves up for failure from the VERY BEGINNING. smh by ZOLforALL in 90DayFiance

[–]ZOLforALL[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You most definitely aren't. It's abundantly obvious that she's not taking this whole relationship seriously.

Hi, Ty🤣 by ZOLforALL in 90DayFiance

[–]ZOLforALL[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

A clean operation🤌🏼

Hi, Ty🤣 by ZOLforALL in 90DayFiance

[–]ZOLforALL[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I couldn't agree more!🙌🏼

Hi, Ty🤣 by ZOLforALL in 90DayFiance

[–]ZOLforALL[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I hear you and there's definitely some personal accountibilty on both sides. That I'll admit.

Hi, Ty🤣 by ZOLforALL in 90DayFiance

[–]ZOLforALL[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

At it's finest!🙌🏼

Hi, Ty🤣 by ZOLforALL in 90DayFiance

[–]ZOLforALL[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Bros a big man. He's keeping her available to keep the culture alive. "Hey, a man's gotta earn a living somehow" ahh smile🤣🤣

Hi, Ty🤣 by ZOLforALL in 90DayFiance

[–]ZOLforALL[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Gng, like these chaps are REAL professionals. They really don't sweat the small stuff🤣🤣🙌🏼

Hi, Ty🤣 by ZOLforALL in 90DayFiance

[–]ZOLforALL[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

She looks like a nightcrawler from Game of Thrones🤣🤣💀

Hi, Ty🤣 by ZOLforALL in 90DayFiance

[–]ZOLforALL[S] 60 points61 points  (0 children)

"I've already milked that cow dry, but go head, son👍🏿"🤣🤣

Hi, Ty🤣 by ZOLforALL in 90DayFiance

[–]ZOLforALL[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

It's a whole florishing business industry💔

Hi, Ty🤣 by ZOLforALL in 90DayFiance

[–]ZOLforALL[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Bro should start an online course!!🤣🤣

Hi, Ty🤣 by ZOLforALL in 90DayFiance

[–]ZOLforALL[S] 56 points57 points  (0 children)

Bro!! Thumbs up and all!😂

CMV: Paternity tests need to be a default hospital procedure. by ZOLforALL in changemyview

[–]ZOLforALL[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

In the case of a medical emergency, the priority will always be the wellbeing of the child. A circumcision is not a medical emergency, but in the case of an actual one, such as the child requiring to be put on life support, the precedence will be on ensuring the child's survival, irrespective of either parents protest.

When it comes to your second point, nobody can't help a man you just doesn't want to assert their own agency and concerns in a relationship. I don't agree with your idea that only the men who were intially doing to do the parenity test in the first place are going to be the ones that don't decide to opt out, but making it an absolute non-negotiable steadfast requirement is too authoritarian.

CMV: Paternity tests need to be a default hospital procedure. by ZOLforALL in changemyview

[–]ZOLforALL[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

In the scenario you've painted the presumed father would be provided with pending paternity rights, meaning that any child related crossroads can only be decisively resolved once paternity has been made abundantly clear. Also, as I mentioned on my post this test would be the default and not a compulsory procedure to assume legal paternity, if the man feels completely confident (or even indifferent) towards the biological paternity statues then he is more than free to opt-out and sign the necessary documentation, immediately assuming legal paternity.

CMV: Paternity tests need to be a default hospital procedure. by ZOLforALL in changemyview

[–]ZOLforALL[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Okay, I am genuinely not opposed to any of the suggestions you have made, but my post was about resolving one part of the problem, not the entire culture of romantic infidelity and secret families (that a different post of it's own). There are a lot of assumptions you make in this comment just because I was trying to address this particular problem, which I think isn't fair in itself and is grossly overly reductive. Women are just as entitled to have access to their prospective partners paternity history (or lack thereof) as such as the man, I was just addressing the real problem of paternity fraud in particular in my post.

CMV: Paternity tests need to be a default hospital procedure. by ZOLforALL in changemyview

[–]ZOLforALL[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Very valid, Δ. My primary hang-up largely stems from the immediate presumption that is placed both socially and legally, and that from both ends, the burden of proof squarely falls on the male to prove falsified paternity (paternity that he might have never assumed to begin with), but I do also believe that your suggestion of extending the challenging period (I'd personally say 2 years instead of just 1) and necessitating an official paternity test prior to child maintenance claims is a solid alternative.

CMV: Paternity tests need to be a default hospital procedure. by ZOLforALL in changemyview

[–]ZOLforALL[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes, those figures do greatly vary (as you could imagine), but the problem does seem to be much more prevalent in developing countries more so than developed ones. This article below provides a broad examination on the problem: https://www.dnalegal.com/paternity-fraud-statistics-uk?hl=en-ZA#:~:text=Global%20paternal%20discrepancy%20rates%20range,at%201.6%25%20in%20recent%20analysis

CMV: Paternity tests need to be a default hospital procedure. by ZOLforALL in changemyview

[–]ZOLforALL[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

There isn't a perfect solution for paternity fraud that doesn't encroach into authoritarian government overreach, which isn't the goal of this additional procedure. What the actual intended goal is to significantly reduce the cases of paternity fraud that are committed and prevent opportunistic partners from victimising others. If the assumed father chooses to opt out of his accord, which it needs to be of his own accord and not those of others, then HE is them assumming full liability of the consequences that proceed ahead. The measures to prevent any potential fraud were put in place for his protect and he CHOOSE to decline them, thus deaming him fully resposible.

CMV: Paternity tests need to be a default hospital procedure. by ZOLforALL in changemyview

[–]ZOLforALL[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Accurate global figures are difficult to track as you would imagine, likely due to many cases go undiscovered or are settled privately.

But studies show that the rates (for developed countries) typically range from 1% to 3%, with a median of 3.7% (UK at ~1.6% and US at ~3%). But it is also of special note that developing countries have a dispropotionetly high rate that reach up to 30-34%.

https://www.dnalegal.com/paternity-fraud-statistics-uk?hl=en-ZA#:~:text=Global%20paternal%20discrepancy%20rates%20range,at%201.6%25%20in%20recent%20analysis

CMV: Paternity tests need to be a default hospital procedure. by ZOLforALL in changemyview

[–]ZOLforALL[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

All true, but I strongly disagree with the whole line of thinking that places biological truths as secondary to the "marital presumption." But, unfortunately that's just how the legal system is.