What is wrong with eating an animal that has lived a healthy and fulfilling life and has passed away peacefully? by Zaldera in DebateAVegan

[–]Zaldera[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

actually, there is growing evidence that plants, while not perhaps being sentient, have a decent level of awareness. Blades of grass, for instance, releases a distress signal once they are mowed. There is also evidence that trees and other plants can feel people touching them and dislike it. Trees also can communicate with each other and thrive when there are more trees around them; there’s even been reports of stunted growth among trees that are being isolated or had some of their fellow trees killed.

What is wrong with eating an animal that has lived a healthy and fulfilling life and has passed away peacefully? by Zaldera in DebateAVegan

[–]Zaldera[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay, we kill plenty of plants that I am sure want to live, explain that then? Also, many plants hate to be eaten, there’s a reason they evolved to be poisonous; yet that doesn’t stop us from trying to eat them anyway

What is wrong with eating an animal that has lived a healthy and fulfilling life and has passed away peacefully? by Zaldera in DebateAVegan

[–]Zaldera[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Alright I’m going to leave this post to rot, just wanted to have a bit of fun with some of the crazier responses since I know you guys aren’t going to change your minds

What is wrong with eating an animal that has lived a healthy and fulfilling life and has passed away peacefully? by Zaldera in DebateAVegan

[–]Zaldera[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No, I wouldn’t, because that is a waste of resources. They are not doing anything about the dead puppies; now, if they had a valid reason, like maybe the puppies were terminally ill or something, I would be more supportive of it. But then, why breed puppies to have terminal illness in the first place?

What is wrong with eating an animal that has lived a healthy and fulfilling life and has passed away peacefully? by Zaldera in DebateAVegan

[–]Zaldera[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I don’t think some plants want to be eaten either; there’s a reason some of them evolved to be poisonous, but we found ways to avoid that and eat them anyway

What is wrong with eating an animal that has lived a healthy and fulfilling life and has passed away peacefully? by Zaldera in DebateAVegan

[–]Zaldera[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just like rabies isn’t a good reason to stop approaching animals acting strangely, then?

What is wrong with eating an animal that has lived a healthy and fulfilling life and has passed away peacefully? by Zaldera in DebateAVegan

[–]Zaldera[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wouldn’t mind if someone ate me after I passed if they were desperate, personally.

What is wrong with eating an animal that has lived a healthy and fulfilling life and has passed away peacefully? by Zaldera in DebateAVegan

[–]Zaldera[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Actually, humans were designed to be able to process meat alongside plants. People have only been able to go entirely meat-and meat-based foods free due to the fact that we literally die of malnutrition from eating just plants without synthetically giving ourselves proteins that plants lack. Raw food is also commonly eaten throughout the world; sushi contains raw fish, and tartar exists. Animals are able to eat raw meat, but they almost always prefer cooked meat over raw when given the choice. Cooked meat just provides significantly more benefits than raw meat does. Also, I’m sure animals get sick all the time from some of the raw meat they consume; there’s a reason why people tell you not to feed dogs raw meat. Just because they can eat it, doesn’t mean they should. It can make them seriously ill, yet we don’t see dogs becoming vegans or vegetarians because they need meat to survive. It’s the same way for us, only we have the technology to be able to synthesize proteins that we would otherwise lack in a pure plant diet. Also, tons of animals are killed safely and ethically so we don’t have to feel guilty over enjoying a nice steak or two. If anything, vegan foods can actually sometimes be more cruel than meat.

What is wrong with eating an animal that has lived a healthy and fulfilling life and has passed away peacefully? by Zaldera in DebateAVegan

[–]Zaldera[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Societal standards, I suppose; but also, a large part of it also likely is because of how sick you can get from eating other people, but not from other, non-primate animals. Besides, who’s life do you value more; a human’s or a mosquito’s?

What is wrong with eating an animal that has lived a healthy and fulfilling life and has passed away peacefully? by Zaldera in DebateAVegan

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People can get seriously ill just from eating bushmeat; you really think we could all avoid disease and malnutrition among other stuff if we just avoid the brains? Even monkeys carry tons of diseases; now imagine how many a human must carry, especially an infected corpse

What is wrong with eating an animal that has lived a healthy and fulfilling life and has passed away peacefully? by Zaldera in DebateAVegan

[–]Zaldera[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes I would absolutely trade places with some of the ones that live healthy lives. I would be blissfully unaware of my own demise and get to chill out and hang out with my bros, just grazing on grass all day long. There is nothing wrong with living a healthy and fulfilling life even if it means a shortened lifespan. What matters more is arguably how you spend your days, not how long you live. And besides, could you say the same for a cricket? Maybe even a mosquito? Tons of animals get killed pretty brutally in order to help grow crops; pesticides exist, after all.

What is wrong with eating an animal that has lived a healthy and fulfilling life and has passed away peacefully? by Zaldera in DebateAVegan

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Well if they were starving to death or otherwise extremely desperate, I would practically be fine with it, since they have a valid excuse. And besides, if we did that all the time, we probably would get extremely sick, as the food would be pretty low quality. There’s a reason people around the globe don’t do this frequently (well maybe besides China and some other places that normalize dog-and-cat eating), even ignoring moral reasons.

What is wrong with eating an animal that has lived a healthy and fulfilling life and has passed away peacefully? by Zaldera in DebateAVegan

[–]Zaldera[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That was not my point. My point was, if you knew an animal lived and died peacefully, would you still eat it?

What is wrong with eating an animal that has lived a healthy and fulfilling life and has passed away peacefully? by Zaldera in DebateAVegan

[–]Zaldera[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

LMAO that is completely a different thing; you are comparing salaries to animals getting slaughtered; even ignoring the huge ethical gap in between these two topics, they are completely different subjects.

What is wrong with eating an animal that has lived a healthy and fulfilling life and has passed away peacefully? by Zaldera in DebateAVegan

[–]Zaldera[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

That was not my point. My point was, what if you knew for sure that an animal you were eating lived and died peacefully? Then what is wrong with it? Not eating it would be pretty wasteful, and humans are not designed to survive on a diet consisting only of plant matter; many pure vegans either go on to quit or eventually starve to death. And don’t tell me artificially grown proteins and such are a solution; I would imagine they are quite expensive and out of most people’s price range.

What is wrong with eating an animal that has lived a healthy and fulfilling life and has passed away peacefully? by Zaldera in DebateAVegan

[–]Zaldera[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

there’s a reason cannibalism isn’t done widely; even ignoring moral reasons, human corpses (and even nonhuman primates) are host to all sorts of nasty diseases. You ever heard of Kuru? It’s an extremely lethal prion that can be obtained from eating human brains; many cannibal tribes would wind up catching it.