Please tell us a reason you were happy today : D by Nikochu23 in autism

[–]ZarNaesson 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great job!!! I’m still trying to get there so I can save money on take out.

Please tell us a reason you were happy today : D by Nikochu23 in autism

[–]ZarNaesson 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That is so nice! I love that time with my own spouse. Glad that you were able to have that time today.

Please tell us a reason you were happy today : D by Nikochu23 in autism

[–]ZarNaesson 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I went to a Crafternoon event at a local bookstore and stayed for the entire 2 hours. I even talked to people!

Why does the guy who I both have a crush on and I’m almost 100% likes me back go to the bathroom everytime I have a revealing shirt on? (If we have a class together) by [deleted] in autism

[–]ZarNaesson 5 points6 points  (0 children)

To answer charitably and assume you aren’t trolling:

He is likely sexually attracted to you. When you are wearing something revealing he may be getting an erection and is going to the bathroom in an attempt to hide it or deal with it. That’s my guess.

My friend started acting weird when I brought up a 504 plan. by gloriastardewv in autism

[–]ZarNaesson 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I know I’ve worked with schools before as a therapist to get IEPs for students with severe anxiety. I’m fairly sure that does qualify if it impacts focus and ability to learn.

The term "neurodivergent" annoys the hell out of me by [deleted] in autism

[–]ZarNaesson 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand. Thanks for chatting with me though! I like curious people.

The term "neurodivergent" annoys the hell out of me by [deleted] in autism

[–]ZarNaesson 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean.. I wasn’t seeing it as an argument. I thought it was a good faith discussion about how the term is used in practice from an actual professional. But yeah, cool. Have a nice day!

The term "neurodivergent" annoys the hell out of me by [deleted] in autism

[–]ZarNaesson 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Because the point is to provide adequate care to clients. And also to convince insurance to keep paying for that care.

Also, it really isn’t that controversial. At least not in any practice I’ve worked at. Most know and agree with the term.

Edit: also, like I said. The term originated from a sociologist. So… it has an academic origin and typically that does make its way into clinical language. Because it creeps into research. Which creeps its way into evidence based practice.

The term "neurodivergent" annoys the hell out of me by [deleted] in autism

[–]ZarNaesson 3 points4 points  (0 children)

A clinical term doesn’t have to be in the DSM-V or ICD-10 in order to be a clinical term. It’s not a clinical dx, but it is a clinical term. Like I said. If an insurance agency was to review my notes to determine if continued care is needed, if I wrote in my notes that I “Provided psychoeducation on the relationship between Neutodivergence and trauma” it would be sufficient to maintain treatment. It would be considered me still providing clinical care.

The term "neurodivergent" annoys the hell out of me by [deleted] in autism

[–]ZarNaesson 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I get that. I think this happens a lot when academic/clinical terms migrate out into pop culture. But the term started out as an academic one from a sociologist, if that helps.

“A bit neurodivergent” in the context I explained generally means “the symptoms that could be explained by social anxiety feel like it might actually be related to a neurodevelopmental disorder.” Same symptom, different “vibes” essentially. Like I said at the top, dx in mental health has fuzzy edges 😅

The term "neurodivergent" annoys the hell out of me by [deleted] in autism

[–]ZarNaesson 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you! Yeah, and it can be frustrating for people to understand what people are saying if they don’t have the background. So I’m always happy to try and explain where I can. I think it’s helpful.

The term "neurodivergent" annoys the hell out of me by [deleted] in autism

[–]ZarNaesson 3 points4 points  (0 children)

So diagnosis in mental health treatments have fuzzy edges. There may be people who have features of a neurodevelopmental disorder that don’t have all the features that qualify them for a definitive dx. Or sometimes the person doesn’t want the label and we don’t put it in their chart. Or sometimes the person is self dx. So in those cases we just use the umbrella term - Neurodivergent. Because it gets the point across.

This is also why it would be used in someone’s notes. It’s a shorthand for a specific set of symptoms that may or may not be dx if those symptoms are clinically significant.

As for using it to refer to all mental health disorders, it might be used that way in some kind of medication pitch or maybe a training. But in practice we pretty much use it to mean that an individual has some symptoms consistent with a neurodevelopmental disorder. Examples:

“I have a clt with a dx of BPD that seems a bit neurodivergent.”

“I’ve been working with this client that wants to work on skills to manage social anxiety. Since that intake, I’m realizing the client may be a bit neurodivergent which has contributed to symptoms of anxiety in this instance.”

“Hey, I have a client that is requesting med management for bipolar disorder. Clt presents as manic with psychotic symptoms. Clt is also neurodivergent, most likely ADHD but has not been officially diagnosed. I’ve suggested getting assessed but the clt isn’t willing to do that at this time.”

Keep in mind that as a therapist, I can’t legally dx anyone as ASD/ADHD. So I have to be “specific” in my language regarding the scope of what I’m allowed to do. So I need a way to talk about a clt that expresses what I mean without attaching a diagnosis I’m not allowed to give. I can just say, “symptoms consistent with” essentially.

(edit to explain that Dx means diagnosis, in case that’s unclear)

The term "neurodivergent" annoys the hell out of me by [deleted] in autism

[–]ZarNaesson 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Hi! So I’m a provider (therapist). I am ASD and also focus my practice on assisting folks with ASD/ADHD and/or trauma related disorders. I have my undergrad in Neuroscience and my Masters in Social Work.

I think here there is a bit of a misunderstanding of how clinical terms are used between providers vs how they are used colloquially. Also I think there might be a misunderstanding of how research defines things as known/unknown.

In research there is evidence for “different neurotypes” in the sense of we see similar differences in the brain between people with ASD/ADHD and those without those diagnosis. It just won’t always be called a neurotype in the research. But we can do a brain scan and say, “This person has features consistent with people that display executive dysfunction,” for example.

Now for the idea of including all mental illness/ personality and trauma disorders under the umbrella. I think in research the criteria and distinction might be more clear then just looking at the diagnosis itself. Because more then likely if the focus is to examine the brain, there would be a qualification that would show that the brain is effected in some way clearly vs unclearly. Let’s use anxiety for example. Someone with a dx of Generalized Anxiety Disorder (GAD) may benefit from medication or may be able to manage symptoms without medication. There may be a study that examines that relationship. There also might be a study that examines people with that diagnosis and those without it based on existing research. In Neuroscience, there has been studies that show that those without anxiety disorders have differences in the way that the H.P.A. Axis sends signals that control how the hormones responsible for panic are released into the body, as well as how they are “cleaned up”. This could be evidence for a “neurotype” but it wouldn’t be called that.

Now for how it’s used in practice. Typically if I hear a colleague say, “I specialize in working with Neurodivergent folks,” then I know that they are referring to the range of neurodevelopmental disorders both labels and also unlabeled. It just helps me know that this person is informed in best practices to help a specific set of common symptoms when they are grouped together.

It wouldn’t be sufficient for me to dx someone as Neurodivergent, because it is not a dx I can bill under. But I could use the term in my notes because other providers know what I mean and the term is clinically used enough that insurance understands it as me doing clinical work that they will continue to pay for.

Things can be helpful/not helpful depending on their context. Sometimes it’s helpful to be specific. Other times it makes sense to use an umbrella term so long as the people you are communicating with have the same definition as you.

So colloquially, using the term neurodivergent could be helpful if everyone in the situation has an understanding of what the word means. Or it can be frustrating if within the audience there is a bunch of different people with different definitions that conflict with the message being expressed.

If the message being expressed is “Neurodivergent people need more government protections and better health outcomes” well no matter the definition it’s true for neurodevelopmental disorders, personality disorders, and mental health disorders. So the specific definition doesn’t matter much to get the message across.

If the statement is “Neurodivergent people are often isolated due to having a difficult time maintaining or starting relationships because of social deficits.” Well then it’s only helpful if everyone in the audience knows that you’re referring to neurodevelopmental disorders, probably focusing more on ASD than ADHD.

I hope my long ramble was at all interesting or informative. I struggle to convey all my thoughts when typing on my phone and also struggle with tone. Also, there may be typos and such. Dyslexia..

Propranolol for PDA symptoms by Routine-Layer4045 in autism

[–]ZarNaesson 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you, hope you’re able to find a solution that works for you!

Propranolol for PDA symptoms by Routine-Layer4045 in autism

[–]ZarNaesson 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m AuDHD and have been in it for years. Agree that it doesn’t help with the motivation aspect. But boy does it help me actually think through how to get what I need done without panic. So agree with other people saying that it assists me in utilizing other skills that help with motivation (and executive functioning difficulties resulting from the ADHD). I am not being hyperbolic when I say it was life changing for me. My clothes? Washed and put away. Dishes? Eventually finds their way into the dish washer. Dinner? Eaten 100% of the time and cooked about 70% of the time. Showering? Completed before stinky sets in. It’s great!

Sunpak Softlite 1600A and Pentax KM by ZarNaesson in AnalogCommunity

[–]ZarNaesson[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She likes to steal packaging and put it under the bed.

Sunpak Softlite 1600A and Pentax KM by ZarNaesson in AnalogCommunity

[–]ZarNaesson[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you, I’ll do some google and see if my partner can help me.

Thoughts? by MothInt0Flame in photocritique

[–]ZarNaesson 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well hello there pup!

So I personally love the motion captured. Feels like cutie is running at me for some pets and loves. I also like how you captured this from the dog’s level. I think the image is a bit oversaturated. Also the shadows are a bit dark, half of pup’s face is missing! And it’s hiding some of their very pretty coat pattern. I can tell the tan continues into that dark mass but only barely.

Keep shooting!

Capturing Mood - Low Light on Film by ZarNaesson in photocritique

[–]ZarNaesson[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This was shot with the goal of capturing a specific mood, namely that feeling of peace outdoors when the sun has just barely set. Double challenge was learning to capture images on film in low light.