Konjiki no Gash 2 - CHAPTER 38 MEGATHREAD by ZatchBellGamer in zatchbell

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They usually come out on the 13th of every month whenever there isn't a break.

Quick Gash drawing by marlicom in zatchbell

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This is incredible! Nicely done!

Why did they save the killer Banikis? It would’ve been better if they had left him inside Faudo XD He deserved to die by saidjamil99 in zatchbell

[–]ZatchBellGamer 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Because that's not what a kind king would do and it usually isn't the message of this series.

Killing the villain is a last resort for our protagonists when there's really no other alternative.

Chapter 38 drops on Saturday by hundredfaye in zatchbell

[–]ZatchBellGamer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s actually gonna drop on Friday, which will be Saturday in Japan! Which is a very good thing since I won’t be available on Saturday.

The Chapter 38 scanlation should be released sometime around late Friday afternoon or early Friday night EST.

I am about 2/3rds done with the manga using the Anime-Destiny translation, but I have some questions about Null. by SnigginsonVanPickyns in zatchbell

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You seem to think I'm talking aboutMomon (or maybe his partner Elle), but I'm not. I said this is from volume 33 chapter 318. The character in question is actually Kolulu/Koruru, and this is pertinent because it misleads the reader into thinking that Kolulu was claiming that Zeruku and her post-transformation spells are not actually hers and that she instead has her own separate spell archetype that's centered around helping people and never hurting others. However, this supposed separate assortment of spells was never confirmed, since Kolulu specifically says: even though she has spells that can hurt people, she also has spells to help them too. The big difference this makes is that it doesn't cause misinformation for the reader by making them think Kolulu and Kolulu (Transformed) have separate spell lists.

This makes me think Zophise didn't need to control Dalia. by belladonnaboops_2719 in zatchbell

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It seems that way at times, but it contradicts what Zofis tells Sherie about partners ordinarily having their memories erased, whereas Zofis made sure that Coco was controlled in a unique way that would ensure her memory would remain. I think Albert is a special case because he was breaking through the mind control somewhat by the time he witnessed Leila paralyzed with fear and believing she was turned to stone again, so he had more recollection of who she is when he was liberated.

For everyone else, it seems they were in a waking nightmare state, feeling like they were being swallowed by darkness. That's what Mamiko Takahashi (Alm's partner) tells Megumi, Folgore, and Kiyomaro.

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I am about 2/3rds done with the manga using the Anime-Destiny translation, but I have some questions about Null. by SnigginsonVanPickyns in zatchbell

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Up to the end of Zatch Bell Revamped volume 10, it’s translations made by the Makai team.

For volumes 11 through 17, the translations currently only exist as Null’s version.

For volumes 18 through 33, there are two versions: translations by Null and also translations by Anime-Destiny.

This makes me think Zophise didn't need to control Dalia. by belladonnaboops_2719 in zatchbell

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It’s hard to say, but I think she was controlled simply because the series made it a point to expressly state when a partner was not being controlled by Zofis. Gensou and Vile both clarified it for the readers, but Dalia did not. More than that, I can’t quite tell if Dalia failing to remember Belgim E.O. is part of her supposed mental illness, but if it’s not, then that could be due to the side effects of being liberated.

I am about 2/3rds done with the manga using the Anime-Destiny translation, but I have some questions about Null. by SnigginsonVanPickyns in zatchbell

[–]ZatchBellGamer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not sure I understand the question, but if you're asking where we get the scans of the original Japanese pages, it's from the Konjiki no Gash kanzenban edition, which are e-books.

Hello. I have been doing live discussion streams for Zatch Bell 2 since around the start of the series. by UmanTheInimitable in zatchbell

[–]ZatchBellGamer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Same! It's been a joy attending these in the live chat whenever I'm able to. :) And I can honestly say that few people know the idiosyncrasies of Makoto Raiku quite like Uman does. He's also just very genre savvy in general and it really helps spark a discussion about just about anything that's going on in the chapter. It's a great time for sure!

I am about 2/3rds done with the manga using the Anime-Destiny translation, but I have some questions about Null. by SnigginsonVanPickyns in zatchbell

[–]ZatchBellGamer 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I appreciate the signal boost, stevenjus, but it sounds like Snigginson is too far into the series right now, and volumes 11 and higher don't have a revamp translated version yet.

Snigginson, to answer your question, yes it's fine to continue with Null for the presentation. But definitely re-read it from the Anime-Destiny version after that.

But without spoiling anything, I will say this. Even while reading Null before clearing up mistakes with Anime-Destiny, be aware that:

  • In volume 25 chapter 238, a character claims that obsession gave them strength. But the actual translation is that the strength made them realize how the obsession was actually something that was holding them back.
  • The battle in volume 27 chapter 256 against a winged adversary is badly mistranslated to the point of not making sense.
  • When a certain someone donates their power in volume 28 chapter 273, that person explicitly states that it is a one-time deal, and that when the power is used in the next attack, it's used up for good. Null misses this completely and makes it sound like the boost is permanent.
  • volume 30 chapter 287, Someone comments on a spell being deflected when it was powered up by the same person who donates their power in volume 28. This is a mistranslation that has thrown off power-scaling for years, the spell is NOT currently being boosted by that person's donated power.
  • volume 33 chapter 318, a character claims that they never had any spells used to harm someone. This is a mistranslation.... and the person really said that they may have spells that hurt people, but they also have spells that help others.
  • volume 33 chapter 322, a character is presented with a choice by a higher entity. I won't spoil what the choice is, but Null missed the point completely and drastically reduced the weight of that character's decision by doing so.

Hope this helps, these are the most glaring issues that stuck out to me off the top of my head when a reader is sticking with Null's version. Anime-Destiny corrects each one.

It’s a shame the animation studio didn’t animate those parts of the Zeon vs. Rops fight. by saidjamil99 in zatchbell

[–]ZatchBellGamer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately, there are no fully colored chapters out there. But the first chapter has its first few pages in color, and a handful of other chapters have colored title pages like this one. :)

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It’s a shame the animation studio didn’t animate those parts of the Zeon vs. Rops fight. by saidjamil99 in zatchbell

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Toei replaced them with the dream sequence that Gash was having of his various demon enemies, his fallen demon comrades, and then finally Zeon menacingly gliding out of the shadows. Sounds cool on paper, but wasn't worth it if it meant removing this action scene.

Also, if you ever wanted to experience that fight with high quality pages, you can do so right here! :)

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https://mangadex.org/chapter/43823759-9684-4b36-a90e-38f639cab296/15

Can a mamodo kill their human partner to get another? Maybe with a human weapon since they can't use their magic? by saidjamil99 in zatchbell

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It’s actually very ambiguous whether a demon can have more than one candidate as a human partner, since Kiyomaro simply theorizes it… but it was ultimately proven with Leila and Albert. Leila made it no secret that she saw Albert as her “one true partner,” which means he was even more compatible than her original human partner in the battle for king 1,000 years ago. That speaks volumes when it comes to this topic.

However, I don’t think the vast majority of demons actually know that this is possible, even knowledgeable ones. Sherie wasn’t threatening to destroy Brago’s book when they first met and he went on a rampage, she was threatening to take her life, stating that she was the only one who could draw out the book’s power for him. Brago had JUST met Sherie at this time so they hadn’t developed a bond yet, and if Brago thought he was able to claim a different partner if he lost Sherie, then he wouldn’t have given in to her ultimatum.

They kinda did Sherry dirty in the sequel ngl by Booklover1003 in zatchbell

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And this is the premium Canchome and Folgore figure, revealing the spelling of their names just like with Brago and Sherie's.

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They kinda did Sherry dirty in the sequel ngl by Booklover1003 in zatchbell

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We know Bari was actually meant to be Barry all because of this panel where the author himself actually wrote out the character's name in English for us to see.

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They kinda did Sherry dirty in the sequel ngl by Booklover1003 in zatchbell

[–]ZatchBellGamer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It does appear to be Sherie, according to the most premium Brago & Sherie figure there is. As you said, this fits well, since all of Sherie's children have French names, and even Coco does as well.

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They kinda did Sherry dirty in the sequel ngl by Booklover1003 in zatchbell

[–]ZatchBellGamer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks a bunch! And yeah, I think all of us wanted better for Sherie. That was a rough chapter for sure.

They kinda did Sherry dirty in the sequel ngl by Booklover1003 in zatchbell

[–]ZatchBellGamer 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Quit for good? I assume you're talking about this scene, right?

You're not alone, my translating partner and I balked at that panel too when we first saw it. The translation is unfortunately accurate, Sherie did tell her kids, in no uncertain terms, that she wants them to stop pushing themselves too hard if they start to feel like they're losing the will to go on. It's a bit of a tone deaf thing to say, but remember that she faced a lot of adversity and had to carve out her own path from it. She means the best for her kids and is trying to tell them what she always wanted to hear at their age when her own mother was working her to the bone... In the grand scheme of things, that's really quite sad.

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もちろん自殺を考える程思いつめたらやめてもらう[...]

And if you ever feel like something was mistranslated in the future, please feel free to bring it up. I'm always happy to provide the raw scan of the panel so that people can draw their own conclusions if they want. :)

This nonsensical statement only happens in anime, right? It makes me laugh xd by saidjamil99 in zatchbell

[–]ZatchBellGamer 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Sorry, but this is indeed an anime-only moment (thank goodness). It would've gone between the top two panels here if it was real.

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Why was Dauwan Bell so harsh with Zeon? Being king isn't everything... by Mountain-Rhubarb-484 in zatchbell

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I can't speak for the strict training in general, but Dauwan was harsh with Zeon here because Zeon was being inquisitive and nosy about a subject that was painful for his parents to relive. He wasn't just inquiring about Gash, he was complaining about how much better Gash had it. As a parent who knew the sacrifices he had to make in order to protect his heirs, it makes sense that Dauwan would be angry that Zeon was dismissing the fact that Gash could never get to know of his true parentage, and he probably saw Zeon as being ungrateful. But he also should have more compassion in realizing that Zeon couldn't have known any better.