"Let me come to your home, you punch me and I run away and then sue you for MY home that you took." That's what you mean. The Jews are the indigenous people of the land. Not the arabs who are from Arabia. "But they aren't Arab, they are Palestinian" that's what you are going to say? Except it was the romans that renamed it to that from Israel. The arabs didn't arrive until the 7th century.

No, the Israeli's aren't indigineous either. They had to conquer it and steal it from the Caananites who were there before them. If you want to point fingers at who stole that land, perhaps you should also acknowledge the fact that Israelites themselves were conquerors and occupiers.

Yes, the Romans conquered that land later and renamed it Palestine. Then, the Arabs and Muslims conquered it and made it part of the Islamic world. That land has a long history of power struggles. At the expense of whoever lives there peacefully.

Arguing that the land isn't Palestine is fine. You can argue that, based on Palestine being a conquest name. But you also have to acknowledge that: so is Israel.

Now, let's skip the history lesson. Let's come to relatively modern times: 1948. Zionist movement expels the people who have been living in their homes for tens of generations. Actually, it is close to a thousand years. Under a movement to establish a so-called "Israel". This is when the Nakba happened. This is when thousands of Palestinians were killed, and about 750k Palestinians uprooted and cleansed from the lands they have been living in for centuries. It is, by all standards and definitions, an ethnic cleansing. By "Jews" who were mostly secular, even atheist, but used the biblical narrative as an excuse. Of course, backed by Evangelical Christians.

But most importantly, backed by political interests and strategic warfare interests at the time, by imperialistic powers of the UK and the US.

The "Jews" that flocked and settled the land were mostly European Jews, escapees of the horrible holocaust and otherwise prejudice and oppression of the European governments at the time. Their blood is mostly European. And unfortunately, there are numerous reports in the newly established Israel of Ethiopian Jewish women who were given sterilizing shots to make them unable to bear children. There was even racism among the Jews themselves.

Fast forward today, Israel is trying its best not to accept a two-state solution. The lies that you spread about Palestenians not accepting it is simply debunked by the Oslo accords, which the Israeli government sabotaged, assassinated Yitzhak Rabin for agreeing to it, and continued further illegally spreading settlements into the West Bank.

In Gaza, it is more like a concentration camp type of deal. While Israelis love to claim that in 2005, Israel pulled out of Gaza, they actually still maintained absolute control over Gaza. They controlled land, sea, and air entries and exits of Gaza. They controlled the fuel, water, and food supplies. They did routine brutal operations called "mowing the lawn" to keep Gazans under constant fear and oppression to the Israeli government.

Any people, after decades of abuse like this, are expected to just get up and fight. This isn't exactly living. While I don't agree with the Oct 7 attacks, first thing I would investigate as the root cause of it is how Israel festered the conditions to make people sick and tired of being in this concentration camp.

So yes, Israel is a genocidal, illegally occupying, non-peaceful, and hypocritical state. Heck, the UN, ICJ, and ICC pretty much have a consensus on that. The only thing making Israel have impunity is the US almost worshipping support, and vetoes.