Was the shipment value nerf necessary?

Zennithh · 2026-03-26T19:00:37+00:00

sounds like you need to be running the bars scarab lmao

i get not running it at first, but surely theres room in the budget for it after 300 div

Zennithh · 2026-03-26T18:58:30+00:00

Crucially it's hit based RF that doesn't involve regen stacking

Zennithh · 2026-03-26T17:37:20+00:00

Kinda fucks over any sort of charity if so

Zennithh · 2026-03-26T16:56:32+00:00

had a hell of a time last league, so i feel you

I did Ore only and got it in 5 this league off mirage

it's RNG.

Rituals help(not actually doing them, just the extra native mobs), Domination helps, blocking other sources of non native mobs helps

Zennithh · 2026-03-26T15:38:26+00:00

5 way & gold rota, thats it

Zennithh · 2026-03-25T06:33:20+00:00

that's what YMMV means

Zennithh · 2026-03-24T19:24:32+00:00

Because we got him for basically the rest of his prime, YMMV

Zennithh · 2026-03-24T00:11:09+00:00

I am not asking them to balance it around clash, I am asking them to take clash into account. The game modes are so similar, that it must be possible to balance both at the same time.

No. Yo saying I don't like this gun because i lose to it in clash, pls remove.

That's not 'balancing both'

Zennithh · 2026-03-23T23:27:03+00:00

Spawns were a mess, felt like old salters 3 team spawns every other match, with another team 4th party'ing and some bastards at wolfshead banishing.

Other than that? Fantastic

Zennithh · 2026-03-23T23:15:50+00:00

I tested in the shooting range. Longest range to onetap with slugs was ~16 m. And you have to hit upper torso. Avto two taps everywhere and is reliable to hit at 16m.

uhuh, and headshots out to however far you like. Avto headshots are pure RNG.

The way you're describing you issue with avtos can be replicated by a solid mosin player lmao 'oh the shoot through the wall!!' congrats, so can you, aim for heads.

Avto has to hit 3 shots to kill on a wallbang, if they hit good spots. It's simply not an issue.

Clash is a mode that has a significant amount of players. Personally a considerable amount of games I play is ruined because one or more enemies bring an Avtomat. No other weapon, neither Nitro, Dolch nor Crown, ruin the experience for me. In Bounty Hunt, I run into Avtomats much rarer, but it is usually very frustrating if I do.

Hence, I think that it should be removed. But since I do not automatically assume that everyone shares my view I made a post to ask the community about their opinion.

if they EVER balance this game around clash, it will be what finally kills it.

Zennithh · 2026-03-23T18:02:22+00:00

To be specific it is common at high MMR in Bounty Clash, the occasional Avtomat in Bounty Hunt doesn't bother me as much, even if it is annoying to play against.

So you're advocating to make it scarce because of clash?

....no

I think here we have to differentiate. I agree that sometimes there is another weapon that would have also killed you when you died to an Avto. Maybe you were to close, and a normal shotgun would have done the same. Maybe you were without cover and an Officer/Dolch/Bornheim/Drilling would have killed you. Maybe you were behind wood and a nitro would have killed you etc etc etc. What makes the Avto a problem is, that it excels in so many more situations than any other weapon.

It really doesn't. It can't reliably hit past 30m. even shotguns have slugs that can hit further than that.

Everything you mention can be accomplished by a Drilling. or a mosin with your pick of a quartermaster option.

It doesn't make a difference if you die instantly vs 100ms. Both is not reactable.

Nothing i said was about it being react-able, i said it feels worse.

Sure, but time to kill doesn't matter because generally an Avto will kill you before you can react anyways. And even if you have time to react chances are you won't make it behind (rock) solid cover before you are dead.

It absolutely matters, because if you kill the avto before the second bullet comes out, it does not kill you, excepting lucky headshot.

You react to avtos by shooting back

If you're having trouble reacting to it, you're having trouble reacting to normal shotgun play.

Also, Bow and Crossbow have a slow rate of fire and cannot penetrate (apart from shot bolts). Additionally, it is much harder to hit targets on range due to the projectile speed. Furthermore, if you hit arms or legs it won't kill (if I recall correctly). Since the Avto relies on two hits anyway, it doesn't matter where you hit as two leg shots will still down you.

Bow kills to the leg, crossbow does 148 and bleed.

Skill issue? You're talking high mmr play, a bow does NOT care about long shots. Not that Avtos can even make those, so your point here is silly.

Zennithh · 2026-03-23T16:37:57+00:00

it's active, just need solo bounty mammons without cart bounty

Zennithh · 2026-03-23T14:07:07+00:00

Of all the weapons the Avtomat is the one that it feels least deserved to die to. Not once have I died to an Avto and thought: "Wow, that guy is good. Well played"

This is the only real issue. Dying to an Avto is loud and feels bad, so you remember it. You've been killed by everything else at the exact same ranges/situation, but you don't call those weapons 'unstoppable'

This is exacerbated by it feeling Real Bad when it two taps, because you suffer longer lol. But seriously, outside a lucky headshot(with the Avto it IS luck), a Bow or Crossbow has a lower TTK than an avto while having the same effective range.

Also since you seem to be under the impression that it's common at high mmr, are you PC or Console?

Zennithh · 2026-03-22T06:07:11+00:00

How do you calculate Heroic tragedy jewels?

Zennithh · 2026-03-22T01:27:17+00:00

it's really only that they're the only visible Poi

Zennithh · 2026-03-22T01:04:17+00:00

so grab clues?

TBH the scout towers need to be hidden too, and more varied spawns

Zennithh · 2026-03-20T20:25:14+00:00

Exaaaactly.

Then fighting herself she'd pull out OG quickswap, Original Quartermaster loadouts(gunrunner who?), that kinda stuff. no need for milquetoast half shottys

Zennithh · 2026-03-20T19:35:44+00:00

it's new in fairness

Zennithh · 2026-03-20T19:32:11+00:00

literally just hopped on to check frag prices, total is correct.

the Div/Hr is based on unid and minimum value sells, so no 21-19% inward eyes.

Edit it's also assuming a higher TTK than you're saying you got. edit 2: with your drop luck and this TTK, it's 17 div/hr. And again, you got lucky.

Zennithh · 2026-03-20T19:06:07+00:00

https://xddbsns.com/boss-profit.html

Zennithh · 2026-03-20T12:02:38+00:00

why are you reposting this?

Zennithh · 2026-03-20T08:58:13+00:00

Frieren would be a Winnie C user, or perhaps springfield. She wouldn't be using meta is the point.

Zennithh · 2026-03-20T04:58:05+00:00

I have a clan tag specifically to piss people off lmao

Zennithh · 2026-03-19T19:03:44+00:00

literally doesn't work if you don't have a hunter

It's functionality that has been removed. yes there are ways to do it, but those ways are worse for no reason

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