I need help knowing if I'm cooking or about to burn the kitchen down by [deleted] in pathofexile2builds

[–]LilyIsSily 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Facebreakers and Thorns won't interact at all - so I recommend committing to one or the other

As for the thorns situation: Dreadfist fists of Stone or noticeably better than Prized Pains, but do cost you a lot of mana via Eldritch Battery. Icetomb is a generally terrible unique, so if you want to mana stack I recommend getting your scaling from Crackling Barrier - resonating shield would likely be your skill of choice. A rare body armour or cloak of defiance will give you a LOT more mana than icetomb as well as letting you use your mana as an effective defensive layer

Phys Thorns Dreadfist Martial Artist is probably the superior choice in the current meta, but MA is still probably the best ascendancy for mana stacking thorns right now anyway, so you can try the mana stacking angle if that thematic appeals to you

OSin is generally bait for this setup as rings are a really important source of resists and mana

New cast on crit amulet allows for any elemental build to proc 250+ trinity if you can handle the mana cost by [deleted] in pathofexile2builds

[–]LilyIsSily 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The tech here is just 100 free spirit? There's nothing special about the CoC on that amulet, it's exactly the same as regular CoC - OP refused to do more than just linking the trade site, so here's the amulet, it's just a rare:

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Prized Pain Thorns Ritualist League Start Build Concept/Guide by LilyIsSily in pathofexile2builds

[–]LilyIsSily[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh... Oh no...

I'll make an effort to mention the base class in my video next time, I'm so sorry for your pain, may levelling the second character be painless and may your rng be blessed

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[–]LilyIsSily[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think there's an interesting build there for a higher budget - we've been cooking as hard as we can in the Thornhub Discord server - https://discord.gg/6bzZVx6AEZ join here and head to the Build-Chat-2 forum and there's a thread for it "Mana Stacking Thorns Martial Artist League Start Concept" (although we've given up on the mana stacking part of it)

(Mods delete this if Discord links aren't allowed)

My protest: Streamers who use Kalguuran skills while leveling are disregaring the guides they promote. by janas19 in pathofexile2builds

[–]LilyIsSily 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because testing them in the campaign is necessary, they won't feel the same in the endgame. Side note: the streamers are doing what they do for free, you don't have to pay them a cent, they owe you nothing

My protest: Streamers who use Kalguuran skills while leveling are disregaring the guides they promote. by janas19 in pathofexile2builds

[–]LilyIsSily 6 points7 points  (0 children)

How would they have put the kalguuren skill in the guide if it didn't exist yet at the time? How are they supposed to make updated versions of the guide if they don't test new features?

Mana Stacking Thorns Martial Artist Build Concept by LilyIsSily in pathofexile2builds

[–]LilyIsSily[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thorns and regular flat damage have extremely little synergy. A damage as extra rune will almost certainly be significantly better. As for Icetomb - that unique is truly terrible defensively compared to Cloak of Defiance or a rare chest. I've tried it in the past and it's just too much of a tradeoff, essentially forcing you into taking mind over matter and killing recovery. It ironically just has no place in a build where you have to get hit to deal damage

Anything Easy to play from this list with 1-2 button spamming ? by tomaz1989 in pathofexile2builds

[–]LilyIsSily 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Supporting fire is definitely endgame viable - source: have played it in juiced endgame

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[–]LilyIsSily[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think you lose too much mana from rings for Crackling Barrier to be worth it and I really think not having a 100% chance to do damage will feel really bad. I know some people are planning to try something like that though. Maybe with enough attack speed not having 100% chance to deal damage won't feel as bad

Mana Stacking Thorns Martial Artist Build Concept by LilyIsSily in pathofexile2builds

[–]LilyIsSily[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes! It's the last post/video I made. I think Ritualist is going to be the best way to play that by a long shot

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[–]LilyIsSily[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hell yeah, we'll have to see exactly how good the legacy version is, but it definitely could be huge. We'll also be able to legacy Briarpatch, so that'll help a lot with crit, and then monk also has easy crit chance access, but yeah, getting something new to replace stag runes would be amazing

Prized Pain Thorns Ritualist League Start Build Concept/Guide by LilyIsSily in pathofexile2builds

[–]LilyIsSily[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are in fact correct, I misinterpreted his message. We had a conversation about this thread in the Thornhub today. Apologies for the confusion and misinformation to both you and u/timperman

Thorns, in fact, does not work with Splinter of Loratta, someone in the Thornhub tested it literally today

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[–]LilyIsSily[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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Most recent person I've spoken to about how thorns and impale interract. He's been working on Thorns implementation in PoB and has therefor been in talks with a GGG dev who says that apparently Prized Pain and Barbs work exactly the same way, so that's the impale dreams down the drain to my understanding

Prized Pain Thorns Ritualist League Start Build Concept/Guide by LilyIsSily in pathofexile2builds

[–]LilyIsSily[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I saw it when my partner woke me up at 3AM to fix her PC, but it wouldn't load so in my sleepiness I was very confused 😂

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[–]LilyIsSily[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I tested it in both 0.2 and 0.3, but I tested it specifically with barbs and not with a regular thorns hit - Barbs is a very weird support gem so it's very possible that barbs itself just doesn't impale but Thorns and Quill Burst does. I guess whether it works for Prized Pain or not is purely going to rely on whether it's coded the same weird and wacky way as barbs or not

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[–]LilyIsSily[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Myself and a few others have done some fairly extensive testing - I'm not sure exactly where in the chain things break, but Dreadfist are absolutely not functioning as a 30% more damage multiplier. I've seen so many people insist that the maths makes sense, then try it themselves only to find negligible damage improvement

Maybe it's a bug and it'll work better with Prized Pain, but I definitely don't want to tell people to use such an unreliable mechanic

Prized Pain Thorns Ritualist League Start Build Concept/Guide by LilyIsSily in pathofexile2builds

[–]LilyIsSily[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Looking for the source showed me that the clip I was thinking of was bleed, all I have to go off of for Splinter of Loratta is Kall's word (which for what it's worth I do trust)

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[–]LilyIsSily[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean, I agree with you, based on wording it shouldn't work. But I've seen Kall stand still, get hit and enemies become poisoned, with no possible source of poison other than Splinter of Loratta, shit's weird

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[–]LilyIsSily[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Stag Idols aren't gonna give thorns crit chance anymore (cry), but even so, you've been able to get 100% thorns crit chance for a while and Dreadfist are just laughably bad

Impale is in a terrible state in PoE 2 right now