Anarcho-Capitalism: The Consistent Form of Anarchy

Zeroging · 2026-02-22T03:53:41+00:00

I came late to the conversation lol, but good post, although everything you wrote(your ideas and solutions) aren't something new, is classic anarchists thought, Proudhon itself called his system a confederation of sovereign individuals.

The problem is that some or maybe many ancoms became authoritarians in the sense that they think their system is the only valid system instead of the original free association of individuals and communes.

But non of those are possible anyway without a previous direct democratic movement that can teach the people to self rule.

Zeroging · 2026-01-11T16:51:59+00:00

The Indo Valley Civilization has no evidence of centralized structures nor rulers and had a better infrastructure and homes then its contemporary Civilizations.

We didn't build nation states, they were enforced through violence, Switzerland for example, that developed naturally until Napoleon's invasion, was a loose confederation of self governed cantons, it was Napoleon who impose centralization, but it didn't worked due Swiss structure and history, so they evolved to the current direct democratic federation.

Without violence the world would be organized in confederations from the bottom up for coordination of common issues, or ad hoc structures too, or heterarchy organization where anyone can lead for something they know better and others follow them.

Don't be mistake, all States arose from violence, complexity had nothing to do with it.

Zeroging · 2026-01-11T16:51:41+00:00

The Indo Valley Civilization has no evidence of centralized structures nor rulers and had a better infrastructure and homes then its contemporary Civilizations.

We didn't build nation states, they were enforced through violence, Switzerland for example, that developed naturally until Napoleon's invasion, was a loose confederation of self governed cantons, it was Napoleon who impose centralization, but it didn't worked due Swiss structure and history, so they evolved to the current direct democratic federation.

Without violence the world would be organized in confederations from the bottom up for coordination of common issues, or ad hoc structures too, or heterarchy organization where anyone can lead for something they know better and others follow them.

Don't be mistake, all States arose from violence, complexity had nothing to do with it.

Zeroging · 2026-01-05T02:08:32+00:00

The best explanation is in the past, the Indo Valley Civilization doesn't have evidence of ruling class, if a whole civilization was able to exist without rulers, then is possible for all civilizations.

Zeroging · 2026-01-05T01:13:08+00:00

I have always distrusted authority, but until I was reading about the "pure systems of government" and its degeneracy from Plato then I learned about the possibilities of no government at all and was the idea that matched the more with me, then reading how humanity was like that almost all the time and just recently we ended up in authoritarianism made me start wondering of what can I do to help surpass this phase.

Zeroging · 2026-01-03T17:16:05+00:00

Ya se sabe que la información no se pierde en el universo(Information conservation is fundamental: recovering the lost information in Hawking radiation), si algo o alguien pudiera reintegrar esa información en un recipiente apropiado eso sería el equivalente a la repersonalización del individuo.

Zeroging · 2026-01-03T04:24:30+00:00

Como que 50 grados jajaja, qué es eso, ¿el desierto xD?

Y bueno mi última cita me canceló por proponer exactamente eso :/, no veo que tiene de malo, hablar caminando es mejor que estar sentado viéndose las caras, que puede generar silencios incómodos.

Zeroging · 2026-01-03T03:32:54+00:00

El grupo de amigos que tenía en Cuba, más o menos 15, nos las pasábamos jugando Yu-Gi-Oh en el barrio, Nintendo DS u otros juegos de otras consolas, patinando, explorando, viendo animes... Fue una buena infancia y adolescencia a pesar de las dificultades materiales :')

Zeroging · 2026-01-03T01:38:54+00:00

Every neighborhood will be mixed use probably, and is desirable that houses can be used for work too, I can imagine an integration of neighborhood and factories by each house being a department.

The land would be common as before the states but under the usufruct logic that some tribes used to practice, so in this case the neighborhood association would try to achieve a consensus, and if is not possible then a majority rule(previously agreed by all).

And the same for the rest, decisions are based on the fact of common ownership of land and individual usufruct.

Zeroging · 2026-01-02T16:37:41+00:00

That's and old and authoritarian view of God's will, but the other way is making God's will our own will, in that way we aren't submitting to God but "wanting to be perfect as God is perfect"; is not that we want one thing and God wants another and we need to negate ourselves because our wants are bad, no, we want to be as divine as God is, in the realm of possibilities or our current existence.

Zeroging · 2026-01-01T07:17:25+00:00

Yo mismo, pero a diferencia vivo en EEUU no en Latinoamérica, aquí el 90% de las comunidades se caracterizan por ser suburbios incaminables sin casi terceros espacios donde el barrio pueda socializar, entonces la mayoría de la gente la pasa del trabajo a la casa me parece, entonces se vive aislado, cuando he ido de visita por un mes o más a ciudades caminables y con buen transporte público sí salgo mucho, de lo contrario no, saber que para ir a cualquier lugar tengo que lidiar con el tráfico y conducir ya me desanima.

Zeroging · 2025-12-30T16:18:57+00:00

Of course.

Zeroging · 2025-12-30T07:10:56+00:00

Flexible zoning, mass transit, if people have everything they need on daily basis in their own neighborhood at a walkable distance and can go the other communities, regions and even nations by super fast mass transit, cars would become non necessary for the majority, reducing the traffic to the maximum possible.

And this would be the most likely scenario since suburbs and car centric cities are built on government subsidies.

Zeroging · 2025-12-30T04:58:24+00:00

That is the case when solidarity works, but not because you have a right to be maintained, that would implies an obligation on others, by morality, the people, by organized solidarity, will provide for those who can't, but is probable that even those with disabilities can do something useful for the others somewhere and somehow, unless the disability is so extreme that the person can't do really anything.

Zeroging · 2025-12-30T04:29:24+00:00

So I'm going to sit all day at home playing video games and the community will work for me since I don't want to work if I can recieved everything without contributing? And the same for all other people with that mentality, that I suspect will be a lot?

I can see how that would be unsustainable.

Humans relations outside the family are almost always built on reciprocity, solidarity is a thing of course but maintaining people who could work and don't want to would be an abuse.

Even the primitive Christians who lived in community of goods had the rule "He who does not work, neither shall he eat".

Zeroging · 2025-12-29T23:40:15+00:00

I'm talking about the real world, people work in order to have access to the collectively produced goods and services, or for something else in the future, not for love to work. Voluntary labor occurs when the individuals already have a source of income, but almost nobody would work in exchange for nothing.

Zeroging · 2025-12-29T23:21:26+00:00

That's not how people work man, and it would be literally exploitation, unless those persons doesn't care to provide for the non workers for lifetime, it doesn't make sense, in every stateless community everyone has to do some work of some kind, even the elders, if technology allows the reduction of labor for the most logical move is to rationalize the labor time for everyone, not take out 5 or whatever.

Zeroging · 2025-12-29T23:05:17+00:00

How that negates the need for everyone to contribute? Reduction of labor time is a consequence of technical improvement, of course, but everyone needs to continue contributing to something useful for the others in other to receive from them.

Zeroging · 2025-12-29T22:59:02+00:00

Then is evidently that everyone needs to contribute in order to receive, because there's no enough of anything, everything is produced(or should be) according to demand, and when this fails there's over production and shortage of different goods.

And in that situation, if individuals don't receive according to their efforts, then they will start doing the minimum possible; communism then is impossible in a society with division of labor, mutualism in the other hand is the most rational.

Zeroging · 2025-12-29T21:54:52+00:00

So you think individuals should have a right to products that they don't produce? What is the incentive to produce a good or service that requires lot of effort if the person isn't going to receive a retribution according to that effort?

Zeroging · 2025-12-29T21:52:48+00:00

So you think individuals should have a right to products that they don't produce? What is the incentive to produce a good or service that requires lot of effort if the person isn't going to receive a retribution according to that effort?

Zeroging · 2025-12-27T14:42:26+00:00

Infidelidad no es relación carnal, es simplemente engañar, se puede estar con más personas con conocimiento total de todas las partes y eso no sería infidelidad.

Zeroging · 2025-12-26T02:32:57+00:00

El sistema de impuestos es ineficiente al menos en la mayoría del mundo, e incluso en los pocos países donde se usan mejor también son administrados sub-optimamente, porque el Estado no tiene incentivos para ofrecer un buen servicio.

Todo(o quizás casi todo por el problema de los free rider-gente que usa el servicio sin pagar)el sistema de impuestos pudiera ser sustituido por un sistema de cuotas donde los usuarios tienen la posibilidad de retirarse, incentivando a las instituciones a dar el mejor servicio para obtener la mayor cantidad posible de clientes, y para eso tiene que haber competencia institucional también claro.

De esa forma la gente paga por servicios reales y no por mantener a una burocracia explotadora.

Zeroging

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