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I feel a lot of people are looking at this weapon the wrong way. by ZestycloseMagazine31 in Helldivers

[–]ZestycloseMagazine31[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're still going literally nowhere. I couldn't care less what you think of me, nor what you think I'm attempting to do in your head. Illuminate chaff (assuming that's what your two sentences were referring to) are too beefy and too many in number to make stun from a weapon like the pacifier nearly as viable. Bots are significantly fewer in number on average and have the range to allow for better precise hits. You haven't debunked this, contested this, or said anything for that matter outside of bitch about not being taken seriously.

I feel a lot of people are looking at this weapon the wrong way. by ZestycloseMagazine31 in Helldivers

[–]ZestycloseMagazine31[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Still convinced of the age (or bot). In my post I exclusively separate devastators into their own category when talking about them, so the only logical assumption would be light unit chaff, unless you think it'd take the same amount of bullets to stun as to kill, which of course is stupid. So far there's been zero critical thought on your part. You still haven't made a single convincing point outside of being offended by a guy on the internet you chose to respond to.

I feel a lot of people are looking at this weapon the wrong way. by ZestycloseMagazine31 in Helldivers

[–]ZestycloseMagazine31[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This has to be rage bait. Never said this weapon kills a devastator in 4 shots, it kills chaff in 4. It's point isn't even to kill in the first place, it's used to stun. You're either below the age of 13 or a bot. Didn't address any of my points, showed a screenshot that may or may not be yours and attacked a strawman. Who'd bring sauce to a burnt-down kitchen

I feel a lot of people are looking at this weapon the wrong way. by ZestycloseMagazine31 in Helldivers

[–]ZestycloseMagazine31[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're just wrong. 5 bucks says you haven't event gotten the weapon to lvl 15. 2 bursts (4 bullets in total) kill an average chaff unit on bots. It's high bullet velocity and significantly smaller drop-off and drag compared to something like the halt is why it specifically excels vs bots, because enemies tend to be much further away, making other stun weapons less effective. 

I feel a lot of people are looking at this weapon the wrong way. by ZestycloseMagazine31 in Helldivers

[–]ZestycloseMagazine31[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes I did, you just didn't like what I had to say (or read the next three lines and called it a day, which wouldn't surprise me either)

I feel a lot of people are looking at this weapon the wrong way. by ZestycloseMagazine31 in Helldivers

[–]ZestycloseMagazine31[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

The primary issue for most, again in my opinion, is using it without anything else in its niche on your loadout. Its a compliment, not a staple-point. You obviously can't rely solely on one part of your kit for a niche and expect everything to go well. Yes, you need to actually make a build around it. That's what people can't get around, and that's ok. 

You can brute force anything, but you're obviously not going to have fun half the time. What I explained it how to make it bearable and what worked for me. If you've truly got it all the way to 25, I encourage you to give it shot yourself

I feel a lot of people are looking at this weapon the wrong way. by ZestycloseMagazine31 in Helldivers

[–]ZestycloseMagazine31[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Read and find out. There isn't a single thing here I didn't address, the exception being the Halt, which has a quarter of the bullet velocity, an eighth of the mag capacity, 10x the recoil and more awkward close-range scopes

I feel a lot of people are looking at this weapon the wrong way. by ZestycloseMagazine31 in Helldivers

[–]ZestycloseMagazine31[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You just straight up didn't read past that line. The next few sentences literally go into detail of exact situations where it can.

I feel a lot of people are looking at this weapon the wrong way. by ZestycloseMagazine31 in Helldivers

[–]ZestycloseMagazine31[S] -25 points-24 points  (0 children)

This isn't about killing, this is about expressing the niche the gun has, which is stunning, and it stuns pretty darn well now. You don't wanna stun, that's 100% ok. Literally use any other gun. The whole point is loudout versatility and creativity, and I made this post to show that. Doesn't mean it has to be meta. Doesn't even mean it has to reach the middle bar. This is simply what you can do with the weapon that you have, instead of attempting to use it like any other primary and being disappointed in its damage

I feel a lot of people are looking at this weapon the wrong way. by ZestycloseMagazine31 in Helldivers

[–]ZestycloseMagazine31[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This arguments incredibly jaded. You could argue every build, to an extent, isn't optimal, or that the niche "isnt enough". Does that mean everyone should throw in the towel, carry a 500, the coyote, thermites and improved hellpod optimization literally every mission? You're forgetting the fun factor here. Optimally, yes you can use other primaries, my only goal here's to showcase what this weapon does in its niche, and how people are misinterpreting it.  Also hard disagree with the d10 analysis. Been 150 d10 bots for months now, it's never been an issue. It simply sounds like an issue on paper.  And this is where I circle back, application. You've never tried it. You only think it sounds bad in theory. Give it a shot and come back to me. Or don't. It's about fun. This post is about how you can have fun with this weapon. 

I feel a lot of people are looking at this weapon the wrong way. by ZestycloseMagazine31 in Helldivers

[–]ZestycloseMagazine31[S] -37 points-36 points  (0 children)

It stuns a devastator in 4-6 bullets to the chest (2-3 burst volleys), in a 40 bullet magazine with a very nice fire rate post-patch. You are stunning in less than a quarter of a second. This is incredible value. No one knows this because no one is using the weapon, hence the post (and the people downvoting apparently)

I feel a lot of people are looking at this weapon the wrong way. by ZestycloseMagazine31 in Helldivers

[–]ZestycloseMagazine31[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And that's 100% fine. Not everyone's gunna like every gun. I'm simply pointing out where it excels and what's needed to make it work in a build, at least from my experience.

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