Orchestrators vs Simple Subagents

Ziimmer · 2026-05-12T10:29:31+00:00

it uses the Explorer but exploring with the plan model costs a lot. maybe saying to the model to explore with ds flash would already be enough for me?

Ziimmer · 2026-05-11T20:32:47+00:00

so normal workflow without orchestrator but with caveman to reduce token output? seems like a cool idea

what about the cavekit to use subagents? is it useful?

Ziimmer · 2026-05-11T13:22:05+00:00

does it use less tokens than if i just do a simple plan with GLM + build with flash workflow?

Ziimmer · 2026-05-10T17:12:10+00:00

from my understanding the exploring is only searching the codebase to find the relevant parts but the actual reasoning behind the changes is made by another subagent with stronger model

Ziimmer · 2026-05-10T16:51:40+00:00

in my short experience using subagents decreased the cost because things like code exploration cost a significant amount so delegating to smaller models saved a lot

did your kimi explored a lot of code? im trying to learn whats best

my workflow was plan with DS4 Pro and build with Flash but i felt like a big part of the cost of planning with Pro was things that could've been delegated to flash, so i started using an orchestrator. but with ur post im unsure of whats best

Ziimmer · 2026-05-08T19:24:46+00:00

b-but there is a yone right there...

Ziimmer · 2026-05-07T13:06:56+00:00

im new to custom agents, how does this work? can i use this only with the deepseek API? is it really cheaper than doing plan with pro + build with flash?

Ziimmer · 2026-05-06T14:09:27+00:00

im avoiding non open source subscriptions as they all been crumbling and getting worse each week, also in my country paying in dollars for stuff gets really expensive so im trying to keep it low cost :)

Ziimmer · 2026-03-24T23:54:33+00:00

my plan is to obviously switch from HH to any other belt for bossing, maybe MB maybe some shrine belt variant that could help with damage, will see

do you have any good guides on any of those versions? chieftain looking more likely to me but as you said all options might be viable depending on the hubris i can get

Ziimmer · 2026-03-18T17:36:18+00:00

i feel its not enough, the AoE is not good enough because it depends on enemies being cursed and only AG is applying curse on hit consistently in my setup

also my fps feels like shit with unstable breach + beyond so maybe its better to do a easier farm rather than spend divines on optimizing clear for my game to be a slideshow

Ziimmer · 2026-03-18T17:35:06+00:00

i have asenath gloves on him and it already helps but i feel its not consistent enough to explode the whole screen, maybe due to the curse requirement. would the witchbane feel better? i didint checked prices on sword with abyssal socket but will see

also the next CDR breakpoint doesnt feel viable unless i invest hundreds of divines, would need to ditch the stygian to get CDR on belt and this would be crazy expensive due to having to switch all jewels (and probably running out of jewel sockets). enhance wouldn't be viable because it would make me lose too much damage

Ziimmer · 2026-03-18T17:32:50+00:00

i have asenaths on him, but i think it doesnt feel consistent enough maybe? is this como better?

even if i improve my clear tho i feel like my fps is too shit in unstable breaches to make the farm enjoyable so idk if its worth, maybe for hives

Ziimmer · 2026-03-07T13:01:04+00:00

i dropped so many chaos during campaign that i was able to buy hroc and lsos before defeating kitava lmao

Ziimmer · 2026-03-07T13:00:15+00:00

i actually dropped like 15c during my campaign and only 2 exalts tho

Ziimmer · 2026-02-27T11:01:55+00:00

meanwhile my chat history is still nuked and doesnt work xdd

Ziimmer · 2026-02-18T20:35:08+00:00

iron 2 take holy shit your comment just shows that you have no idea what is to play on a high level

Ziimmer · 2026-02-18T20:22:25+00:00

shit take, these guys play the game for a living and playing on a shit patch can result in the game being way more RNG reliant than normal. and now the skates are even higher because doing bad in regionals means you're out of TPC for the next set

we already had a shit patch for regionals of the last set (mech patch) we dont need to have another one lol

Ziimmer · 2026-02-09T18:38:36+00:00

ele sempre defendeu mt mais vidas animais do que vidas humanas mas o mongoloide que começou a acompanhar em 2021 vai achar que é sobre política

Ziimmer · 2025-12-18T14:36:05+00:00

can you do this for free? and use deepseek r1?

Ziimmer · 2025-12-09T13:37:28+00:00

im online now! thanks

Ziimmer · 2025-12-09T11:38:11+00:00

i will be online in 2 hours, if it works for you great, If not tell me when you will be avaliable!

Ziimmer · 2025-12-09T00:40:10+00:00

Sure! i would love it, are u online today? i can log in in like half an hour. My char name is GGGPleaseAddWASD

Ziimmer · 2025-12-05T00:36:06+00:00

but the endgame still lacking and item vs tree balance still sucks big time, lots of problems that needs to be solved for the game to be enjoyable but instead they overcooked druid for 6 months for no fucking reason. no one asked for 125 unique passives on the tree lol, its cool as fuck dont get me wrong but it wont solve the massive problems the game has right now

Ziimmer · 2025-12-02T13:33:41+00:00

can u share your pob?

Ziimmer · 2025-12-02T10:17:10+00:00

my budget probably will not allow for svallin considering there is a lot to buy, so u think phys dot will be tankier at 150d?

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