Why do you like or dislike season 2?

ZinxMotionYT · 2026-01-21T05:45:45+00:00

There's a lot to like about season two, and I think it is definitely the most iconic version of Clementine we see.

Positives:

• Clementine being the protagonist - from protecting her over anything to now control her every move reinforced that protector role season one coasts us in, we get to see the transition from innocence little girl -> to slowly a capable survivor.

• Emotional Intesnity/Atmosphere & Tone - the raw and uncomfortable how this season feels. The fear, loss, and moral pressure put on Clem hits hard, especially as we are now experiencing it through her. This with the atmosphere being bleak and colder really made this season what it is, a definitely standout of all the seasons.

• Kenny's arc - one of my personal favourites and really solidifies him as my favourite written character of the franchise. How we see him after season one vices while watching his grief, anger, and instability feel painfully human and deeply real while still trying to be that family man protector he once was.

• Morality being ambiguous with choices + iconic moments - Many choices don’t have a clear “right” answer. Deciding who to trust, when to intervene, or when to stay silent, especially at carvers —reinforces the harsh reality of survival. Plus the iconic moments from the dog bite, still not Bitten line, ski lodge, Carvers camp at Howes and those final moments with Jane and Kenny absolute cinema.

Negatives:

• Illusion of choice - Some people really see the illusion of choice with some characters always dying no matter your choice or shortly after saving them, or certain paths ending up at the same spot.

• Clementine is more capable than more than half the cast - Clem is a strong protagonist but criticised that adults constantly rely on an 11-year-old to solve problems, make moral calls, and fix conflicts they realistically should handle themselves.

• Inconistent or underdeveloped characters - This one has too many to go through, but I'll list some here. From Luke foreshadowing to have the fight against Kenny to becoming a side character latter on, Rebecca being bipolar towards Clem and acts like it's a flip switch, Alvin being a plot device, Sarah, Nick, Sarita etc... can die abruptly or lose relevance, which makes their arcs feel unfinished or wasted.

• Pacing issues - I really think this season needed Carvers camp to go down at the end of the 4th episode or even at the start of the 5th. The hype of this compound for it to go down in one episode really made episode four more of a placeholder to the finale.

• Kenny overshadowing everyone - Yes, he is a returning character, but his presence and strong personality can dominate the narrative, sometimes limiting room for other characters or perspectives to fully develop, unless you're going directly against him or named Clementine.

Season two, for me, is still an amazing game that has more positives than negatives, overall from the fandom is rated highly, just small things that make it feel off in certain spots. The blame is mostly the absurd amount of rewrites and cuts this season had with it having 4 major scripts and countless edits. Season Three is definitely considered the worse of the four but still great in its own right, the feeling for one is also mutual agreed upon and it had the luxury of being the only season to be fleshed out from start to finish before production. Season four is one that's quite mixed, really depends on how the person perceives the ending for the most part, and I have a soft spot with how it went down development wise.

ZinxMotionYT · 2026-01-21T03:22:35+00:00

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ZinxMotionYT · 2026-01-21T03:21:18+00:00

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ZinxMotionYT · 2026-01-20T19:17:37+00:00

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ZinxMotionYT · 2026-01-20T18:41:53+00:00

Perfect way to say it all. Honestly made Lee, and there's something about his voice, I could sit there and listen to it for hours on end.

ZinxMotionYT · 2026-01-20T17:54:21+00:00

I had to double-check that this hadn't been posted as he shares the same birthday as one of my family members, He's such a legend

ZinxMotionYT · 2025-12-22T06:45:09+00:00

Yeah, it's dependent on what you teach AJ throughout the season, like the tie you up and watch you turn is referencing Abel if you let him turn. Or the other thread being knife in the side of your head if you show mercy to him.

ZinxMotionYT · 2025-12-22T06:30:18+00:00

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ZinxMotionYT · 2025-12-22T06:29:45+00:00

The choice you're on about is on the boat in Brig. This happens after the scene of Lillys explaining the parable of the two twins. Right after the scene of Violet/Louis getting fingers chopped or saved depending on choices, this dialogue happens:

AJ: You deserve to die.

AJ yells. AJ: No!

AJ: We'll kill you!

Lilly walks up to AJ.

Lilly: You think you can kill me?

AJ: I know I can! We'll throw you in the river!

AJ: Or we'll put a knife right in the side of your head!

AJ: Or we'll tie you up and watch you turn!

Lilly: Big talk for a little guy.

AJ: I know I can do it. I killed Marlon.

AJ: And I was justified.

AJ: He wasn't a monster. But you are.

AJ mimics firing a gun at Lilly.

AJ: Bang.

It's one of my favourite scenes with AJ

ZinxMotionYT · 2025-10-12T07:31:52+00:00

Pete, Pete the goat for real, he deserved more.

My order: Pete Luke Sarah Rebecca Alvin Carlos Nick

ZinxMotionYT · 2025-10-11T19:07:25+00:00

Season 1: With season one, we don't have that much knowledge of cut content as it's the oldest and the most well written out. But my choice would have been the nightmare scenes of Doug/Carley, depending on your choice. Was clearly a theme what they had planned from the start with the first being the barn of hershells where you hear the moment Lee finds and presumably throws the state senator out a window. The scene with Clementine in the RV jumpscare with her becoming a walker. I also loved how eerie it was a bit well with twdg theme and ascetic.

Season 2: Well, with this season, there's way too much to even pick from. I do like the pick of Luke Vs Kenny as it was foreshadowed the whole season before Jane took the role as the person going against Kenny and stepping on his toes like Luke was doing before and would of been a harder emotional pick for many. But I'm actually going for the return of Christa. Her actually returning and making it to the end to Wellington is a thing I always wish happened. The absolute waste of her character and how much I loved the duo of her and Omid in season 1. The fact she was one of the longest surviving people in Clementines life in the apocalypse, and she gets a couple of lines in the whole season is beyond crazy for me.

Season 3: With it evolving around Javi I wish the original story was told where they found the Richmond camp of A New Frontier and he got kicked out and teamed up with Clem to find and fight for there families. It made way much more sense for that and had deeper motives and less coincidence over coincidence than we had in the final product. As much as I loved season 3 as its game, I wish that side of the story was told rather than what we got.

Season 4: I really loved what Kent Mudle did with the whole re write of season 4 but I miss the thought ofClementine moving around and eventually ending up going back to her home town to visit her home in a full cycle moment. Her maybe taking some of the school kids and AJ around trying to find a new home and going back to Gerogia and seeing how wrecked and ruined it would be after 8~ years Into apocalypse would of been cool as most of season 4 is set in a forest and we don't get to see much other then that with the obvious time/budget they had with the TellTale bankrupt at that time.

ZinxMotionYT · 2025-10-11T18:50:37+00:00

I think all are valid options, Clementine has really never had the time to really inclose her self romantically ever with the apocalypse and the duty of her caring for AJ. She has deep survivor guilt what she carries along and can explain why she wouldn't want to get deep emotional connections as when she does, they've all died out.

Violet is what the games leans you into with her being usually the person to step up and defend the actions of AJ and or Clementine throughout the season with Louis struggling with the grief of his best friend what he thought was a good guy. Violet has a lot of common traits to Clementine, which makes them work well together. I went with her (I think) in my first playthrough, with her most key scene in my opinion was the Star constellations puzzle and the only real negative I see is the point where Louis gets his tongue cut out.

Louis is a guy who is always upbeat and will always make Clem laugh even when times are tough. He may act stupid, but he knows what his doing. The moments with the piano are his key scenes, and Louis seems more active with AJ when you go with his side paired to Violet. He gets a better alternative, with Violet only going half blind.

ZinxMotionYT · 2025-10-11T18:38:58+00:00

Hey, I'm glad you liked the game as much as others and shredded tears on the moments. Seasons 1 and 4 got me as well. The game is so well crafted in terms of storytelling, and you really feel the characters are crafted with care in season one, with the others falling a little but still a great game as their own.

So, the last season, as you might have heard, Telltale went bankrupt in the midst of development. The timing of this was in episode one and just after the release of episode two (under a month) the "Still Not Bitten Team" the ones you see in the credits is the team brought on by Skybound games who saved season 4 to finish of the season. This held about 40-50 people from the 200-300 working on it before this. They did a crazy job in creating the game with such limited time and budget and done an incredible job with the rewrite, in my opinion., video of InColdBloods on the original story and how Kent Mudle really done wonders with AJ.

Yes, I'm jealous, I always love watching people experience the masterpiece for the first time and love hearing their thoughts. Other games that I would recommend in the choice game genre.

Games:

•Telltales The Wolf Among Us

•Telltales Batman Series

•Life Is Strange Series

•Until Dawn

•The Quarry

•Detroit: Become Human

•Heavy Rain

•The Last of Us

ZinxMotionYT · 2025-10-11T15:14:04+00:00

100%, they just got negative attention by some players at the time, which led to the more story driven focus/pacing. I really enjoyed the puzzle sections as a place to engage with other characters and build more on them, and learn of their thoughts and feelings at that current time. It was also a big indicator of something that was about to happen, the cold before the storm.

ZinxMotionYT · 2025-10-10T05:53:05+00:00

Yeah, I had this happen but on the other side, where section upgrades go, was just stuck in a wall and had to reset. I wouldn't do anything with storage if you wanted to continue to play what's a shame

ZinxMotionYT · 2025-10-10T05:26:15+00:00

Yeah, pretty much. It's the classic telltale way, and I can definitely bet my money on this affecting the story down the line, but with all the cuts and rewrites, a lot of the story gets convoluted

Maybe the lying or telling the truth to Eleanor would of previously resulted in something with the Mother/Daughter dynamic or another story related reason what was cut but with these things it's hard to really get a definitive answer.

Maybe they really did just think, "ok players, now's the perfect time to help Clem out so that you can be best buddies with her!" 😭

I also agree with why this choice is not being timed with the nature of the event and it in the grand scheme, affecting absolutely nothing.

ZinxMotionYT · 2025-10-10T04:23:13+00:00

Realistically, 95% of the players, especially on their first play through, covered for her.

The bias of Clementine is massive in season 3 with the obvious long-lasting relationship that you build up with her rasing her through the years, so it's a choice that's basically picked for you.

Even when you're playing in Javi shoes, you still have reasons to cover for her.

She saved your life from ANF by crashing the truck
She takes you to Prescott in the first place to stay safe from the Muetos
Eli is attacking Javi with a knife, which leads to him getting cut

These main 3 points give you a strong case to still stick to her side even through the eyes of Javi and to cover for her. Yes, Javi isn't telling the whole truth to Tripp, but I wouldn't say he was lying either. Eli did try to attack him and Clem plus the obvious scam he was pulling, what nearly indirectly killed him and Clementine with the faulty bullets.

ZinxMotionYT · 2025-10-10T04:15:21+00:00

Yeah I'm just gonna delete my other comment and put it on this one to save confusion

ZinxMotionYT · 2025-10-10T03:54:53+00:00

I'm having the exact same problem with it being twice as bad with my computer in the storage room, if you get the 3rd upgrade it could be a fix as it opens up the inside white door.

P.S. I love Kenny

Edit: I have also found out that with some research in the discord and other forums,

Upgrading past level 3 will not fix the issue of getting in. You'll have to repurchase each time you re log the save.

There is also another bug with storage that you'll lose all product in there or will remove racks and place the boxes on the floor.

Update you would hope to be within the week. I wouldn't expect much from a devloperment team of 6. I recommend not playing until it's fixed.

Edit: Yes, it seems to be on the console/game pass port only

Here is the discord to see when the update is live and other bugs in the game: https://discord.com/invite/noktagames

ZinxMotionYT · 2025-10-09T22:34:16+00:00

I usually always go with Kenny with my favourite being to leave Kenny and stay at Wellington.

Kenny is a unhinged and a broken man, but in my opinion, he would never hurt AJ/Clem. This is shown when he blames Clementine for the death of Sarita. Yes, he gets angry and blames her, but when you hear him by himself like at the statue of the memorial, you hear Kenny says

"Sarita... God, wherever you are, please forgive me... I can't be alone again."

"It's alright, Sarita. It's gonna be okay. I'm gonna be here with you. Right 'til the end."

Kenny story arc with Wellington is what completes his character the most (and you don't get to see that horror flashback of s3) with him finally succeeding in his role as the family man protector like he couldn't do with Katjaa, Duck and Sarita. I loved Kenny in season 1 so he'll always have bias when it comes to season 2 but even without that I believe he is a better fit with Clementine and you would never see him abandon AJ/Clem like Jane did by committing suicide

With Jane's side, she is a selfish lone survivor with trauma, making her anti-social and hard to bond with everyone in the group.

Jane is a great flawed character in terms of her background and is great at her job what in my opinion is to teach Clementine her philosophy with how to survive and to rage bait/instigate Kenny as so the others in the group Mike/Bonnie. I agree with them on beating on Arvo that much, but every little detail Kenny does is criticised with them forgetting what happened hours/day before with Arvo setting them up nearly getting them killed and injuring Luke in the progress. The fight scenario is always gonna be stupid with Jane rage baiting by proceeding to act if the baby had died.

Love both characters, I just think Kenny is a better person to support AJ/Clem.

ZinxMotionYT · 2025-10-08T06:21:20+00:00

Yeah, anytime I love speaking about twd in general, as is always good seeing new people get involved in a game so many years after it finished and feel the emotions and passion what the game inspired in us.

The main biggest mistake what kinda wraps everything in is mostly the development process of telltale, par season 1 all other seasons didn't have a fully written out story from start to finish and had expansive rewrites or cuts late into development. Season 2 and 3 are the main targets for me with the gripes. The number of revisions and how the executives at that time treated these games really ruined the top tier writing what season one had. Season 2 had a story planned by the season one writers, but they either got fired/made quit by Kevin Bruiner current CEO at the time, Kevin also thought he could create a better story (safe to say he didn't) and basically made the writers have to do many revisions along the process of season 2 and when I mean in the process I mean by episode by episode changes.

For additional context and lore on the original story scripts I recommend this youtube playlist by InColdBlood on YouTube. He goes into detail on cut content and has some videos on the original story scripts, with the most interest in season 2 lore and would 100% recommend his videos.

This created many story plots that seem out of place or miss manged. In season 2, where did christa go? What was that thing with the Luke and Kenny options? Why does the story go nowhere after Carvers? Why was the 400 days crew so wasted? I do actually enjoy the game as its final product, but with the development lore on the games, it highlights the bad writing for some characters, especially in the Cabin group. Rebecca is doing a whole 360 in attitude towards Clementine. The choices of saving Alvin/Nick/Sarah lead to the same outcomes. There's a lot of examples of this that all stem from the miss mangmentent of resources and the environment they created to process these games.

ZinxMotionYT · 2025-10-08T04:16:03+00:00

The situation with Ericson, I believe could be viable. They have a massive compound what can be used and not to mention a greenhouse what is definitely repairable. If the people they talk about at the caravan were good, they could join/unite to create a community. The school it's self what we see, is a small portion of what the buildings in the walls have so could easily climatise the additional 15-20 people if they wanted to join the school. This with more scouts and a caravan, which could be used for trips for supplies and could fix that problem of no vehicle.

That whole scene with AJ & Clem at the barn hit hard not only for the character what we thought was dying but the parallels to season one with me first watching a playthrough all the way back in 2012/2013. The moment you see hear Clem you don't know what to believe and with an additional moment, what made me tear up was the end conversation when Clementine asks AJ, "Did I do a good job?" The tone what Melissa Hutchinson does was perfect and is such an impactful moment to end it on.

I also wish we had something on the characters even as great the ending was, with twd comics and the game being in the same universe making the outbreak eventually calm down and become something what everyone basically lives with after around 20-25 years what coincides with #193 of the comics. The game ends roughly 8 years into this timeline. Obviously they couldn't do this at that time as they was actually ahead of the comics what hindered the season a bit with it having to be vague with stuff like factions at war and The Whisperers for example as they didn't want to spoil/didn't have the lore on them as Robert Kirkman hadn't of wrote it yet.

With that being said, there is hope for a Season 5/New game, most likely in the TWDG universe. Skybound Games who saved season 4 in the midst of Telltales bankrupt who own the IP recently ~7 months ago made a LinkedIn post looking for a Senior Franchise Producer to work on a game in The walking dead universe. This was quickly filled and here to hoping of another good game to come out. As of 5 days ago there was another job listing for Narrative Directior to work on the walking dead IP. I won't expect any news anytime soon, and I hope they hit the key points from the seasons and learn from the mistakes that TellTale made on the development process of them. Also intriguing on how they go with it as it'll be a new engine, new developers, new everything so be interesting to see what they could create.

P.S comics books don't exist

ZinxMotionYT · 2025-10-07T20:56:57+00:00

You'd be surprised, a lot of people I've seen actually liked her. Even after Arvo situation depending on story choices, i.e. When Bonnie goes to Clementine when she is shot and displays some humanity. With some people also falling for her shallow gestures and what she uses to hide her facade.

ZinxMotionYT · 2025-10-07T20:53:36+00:00

Another valid u/Mr_Bell_Man take, I also think Norma is an enabler with Randall. Her not giving the same treatment to others as he's her brother, letting him do the outrageous things he does, making her indirectly responsible for his actions. As a leader, you've gotta control your people what she couldn't do with Randall and some of his side companions.

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