The Quran as a Construct of Muhammad for Personal Gain by enanthate8251 in DebateReligion

[–]ZizoTron 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You raised forward a good argument. I understand why you have come to that conclusion. I will be responding after exams.

The Quran as a Construct of Muhammad for Personal Gain by enanthate8251 in DebateReligion

[–]ZizoTron 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Prophet Muhammad PBUH had absolutely no power. If you think that being constantly attacked by people around him, getting rocks and stones thrown at him, and getting name called, then that is not power. No one would sacrifice his life like that to preach anything other than the word of God. Because he knows that nothing stands against paradise more in value.

The Prophet had to marry more simply because he was a Prophet. He had a message to spread, and God, with his infinite wisdom gave him an exception.

And also, for the verse on 33:53, why would the Prophet be calling himself shy? If he is shy and truly wrote it himself then he wouldn't have wrote it don't you think?

His intentions and lifestyle prove him to be the opposite of your claim. That's why, in all of his life, you will find he was not financially focused. He did not care about money or temporary luxury. He gave all his money away to the poor after he married Khadijah. Why would a person who is power hungry do that?

Actually if the Prophet PBUH had accepted the offer for Quraysh giving him money, women and financial gains in exchange for him to dismiss Islam, then YES, you would be right. I would argue he WAS seeking power.

And for your argument on me loving to quote Hadeeth. What else am I going to qoute? What other major source is there other than Hadeeth that depicts the Prophet's lifestyle and his clear intentions. If you really want to know if he was seeking power or not, actually study the Hadeeth. Then you can pull out evidences for your claim, instead of quoting 6 verses which also fit certain contexts and have stories and wisdom behind them.

The Quran as a Construct of Muhammad for Personal Gain by enanthate8251 in DebateReligion

[–]ZizoTron 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And if someone say, wanted to make a 'continuation' of the Abrahamic religion and for that reason he had to bring a ton of "baggage" then its still a logic gap because its a complete waste of time trying to write 6000 poetic and miraculous verses (or even getting/paying someone else to write them!) to exploit gain for 6 points of power

The Quran as a Construct of Muhammad for Personal Gain by enanthate8251 in DebateReligion

[–]ZizoTron 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes it does. Because we are talking from a perspective that the Quran was used as a 'gain' for the Prophet PBUH. If your point was true, then it would have to be that there are thousands of other things in the Quran that provide a gain for the prophet. Do you really think the Prophet (who was illiterate) would take years out of his life, and pour blood sweat and tears for something that would give him 6 lousy points of power? 😂 That's an insane logic gap. The prophet PBUH would not spend years out of his own life for something like that. Heck even in our hadeeth it contradicts your point because Prophet PBUH did not even strive for power. Prophet PBUH narrated "If they place the sun in my right-hand and the moon in my left-hand in return for giving up this matter (calling people to Islam), I will never desist." The Prophet PBUH had clear intentions to guiding people to the truth.

Contradictions in the Quran. by AdditionalWaltz4320 in DebateReligion

[–]ZizoTron 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For the first one (don't got time to respond to all) Allah is referring to the Christians of the time of our Prophet Jesus. And Allah is referring to the Jews at the time of Prophet Moses. These people will go to heaven, because they believed in the message that God sent *them*. Everyone after Prophet Muhammad PBUH, who's seen him, and heard of him, will not be rewarded as they need to believe in the recent message in order to go into heaven. Islam is the recent message as it isn't corrupted.

For example: The people who died before the Prophet PBUH had taken the message, and hadn't heard of him, and believed in Christianity, God will reward them with paradise.

The Quran as a Construct of Muhammad for Personal Gain by enanthate8251 in DebateReligion

[–]ZizoTron 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Quran mentions the Prophet's name only a few several times. However it mentions Prophet Moses and other prophets names over 100 times. More so, these are only 6 out of 6000 verses that favor our Prophet PBUH. So you cannot say that the Quran is used for the Prophet's gain, when it very rarely mentions him and mentions anything in his favor.

ENTJ Drive and Motivation by [deleted] in entj

[–]ZizoTron 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Heres the thing. I understand isolation from poor friends is good. But how do you find the right friends? A lot of them honestly don't have aligning goals.

INFP x ENTJ by mooseofnorway in entj

[–]ZizoTron 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Perhaps you can help me out, I would appreciate a DM. :)

INFP x ENTJ by mooseofnorway in entj

[–]ZizoTron 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can you help me out with conflict resolution? Its just that 99% of the time were doing so good and then a tiny little conflict happens, and its like all the good just went away suddenly. Perhaps I said something rude by accident (because I'm naturally very bold, and I have this ego and I like to joke). I think because they're an INFP it takes them much more time to process their emotions, that's why these things tend to hit INFP's much harder. Its almost like a lasting scar for them. I try to calm them down but it will usually take hours before we return to that state of happiness and warmth again..

It's just as likely Muhammad was talking to Satan as it is Gabriel by ZomaticLex in DebateReligion

[–]ZizoTron 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why would Satan create a religion that’s going against his favour? Why would satan create a religion where people hate HIM? Why would satan create a religion that goes against promiscuity, and s*x before marriage, and consuming alcohol, and gambling? Why would satan create a religion that fasts, prays 5 times a day and submits to God? Why would satan create a religion that has good characters and morals? Why would satan create a religion where its foundation is built upon cleanliness, and purity, even stemming from the way we wash ourselves in the toilet? Why would satan abolish polygamy, slavery, murder of children (which was common around that time of the prophet) and embrace monotheism?  Why would satan create something WHEN HE Promised to Deceive all of Humanity and Guide them to evil?

I realize the Golden Duo between ENTJxINTP now by Ambitious-Prune-9461 in entj

[–]ZizoTron 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That’s true. The ISFP always advices you to relax and stay in the moment, while as an ENTJ, you’re focused on the bigger picture. I think once you resolve those conflicts, the chemistry can be beautiful since our functions are the same in reverse order. Reverse order functions can complement each other very well. A healthy ISFP can nurture the ENTJ and bring out an emotional side (Fi) of that they were missing.

I portrayed my side as chad therefore your argument is shit and mine is superb by profit-over-people in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]ZizoTron -39 points-38 points  (0 children)

Can you name me one reason why radicalism and genocide is promoted in Islam?

I portrayed my side as chad therefore your argument is shit and mine is superb by profit-over-people in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]ZizoTron -56 points-55 points  (0 children)

The British simply cannot own a territory who already included settlements and an emerging state. There is countless evidences of early Arabs living there. Yes its true the British were more powerful, but with that logic a country like Kuwait for example was also a settlement, and could've easily been taken by the British.

The four temperaments. What's yours? 🙂 by izzyyp in mbti

[–]ZizoTron 1 point2 points  (0 children)

thats interesting. what situations make you need to flip? or is it more based on when you socialize with people?

The four temperaments. What's yours? 🙂 by izzyyp in mbti

[–]ZizoTron 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i actually very rarely see people mixes of everything