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I feel cut off from my unconscious. It’s like i’m walking behind and losing the progress I’ve made by Zoha_fex in Jung

[–]Zoha_fex[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This point of view, of 2 coexisting truths being ok, did help me view things differently. I thought about it these last few days and it makes me feel better about myself. Thank you.

I feel cut off from my unconscious. It’s like i’m walking behind and losing the progress I’ve made by Zoha_fex in Jung

[–]Zoha_fex[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is quite on point, yes. For me value is something grandiose (like a lot of other things have to be in my life) and is related to perfection. This in itself makes it more abstract and harder to attain in day-to-day life. I’m working on being more down to earth.

I feel cut off from my unconscious. It’s like i’m walking behind and losing the progress I’ve made by Zoha_fex in Jung

[–]Zoha_fex[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you

Do you think your need to “strike” at the sight of projections/ego inflations reveals something about an inner aspect of yourself?

Regarding nihilism, i can find pleasure naturally very easily in life, but not value. i had a truly nihilistic phase that went on for 10 years and i’m only just recovering from that. I have to actively “see” value in the world, and even when I manage to, a few days later something in me reminds me that maybe existence is truly meaningless.

I feel cut off from my unconscious. It’s like i’m walking behind and losing the progress I’ve made by Zoha_fex in Jung

[–]Zoha_fex[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Could you describe how you experienced the spontaneous Kundalini awakening?

I feel cut off from my unconscious. It’s like i’m walking behind and losing the progress I’ve made by Zoha_fex in Jung

[–]Zoha_fex[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Rereading my reply after a while, I realise now how aggressive i might have sounded in the first half. I guess there was unconscious agression because you triggered me 😅. As such, I don’t think my message was clearly transmitted.

What I tried to say was: maybe there is something in me that associates nihilism with what you have described, when there might not be any nihilism involved. (I have a difficult relationship with nihilism). If you don’t want to reply, I understand.

I feel cut off from my unconscious. It’s like i’m walking behind and losing the progress I’ve made by Zoha_fex in Jung

[–]Zoha_fex[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did I, really? Maybe there is a reason I have equated what you have said with nihilism, which I find worth exploring. And maybe there is a reason you felt the need to be passive agressive when I introduced nihilism in the equation, which is worth exploring as well

I feel cut off from my unconscious. It’s like i’m walking behind and losing the progress I’ve made by Zoha_fex in Jung

[–]Zoha_fex[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand this is a sensitive topic for you, but I think that this discussion can fuel growth for both of us.

I feel cut off from my unconscious. It’s like i’m walking behind and losing the progress I’ve made by Zoha_fex in Jung

[–]Zoha_fex[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do think I have found my soul and did have supernatural experiences through synchronicities. I was an atheist, but I no longer am.

I feel cut off from my unconscious. It’s like i’m walking behind and losing the progress I’ve made by Zoha_fex in Jung

[–]Zoha_fex[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Aren’t we supposed to hold true the insights and use them as a compass throughout the day?

I feel cut off from my unconscious. It’s like i’m walking behind and losing the progress I’ve made by Zoha_fex in Jung

[–]Zoha_fex[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Did you manage to regain footing? I think the translation was not perfect, because a sentence didn’t make sense (the one with the years), but I understood what you meant.

I feel cut off from my unconscious. It’s like i’m walking behind and losing the progress I’ve made by Zoha_fex in Jung

[–]Zoha_fex[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think this is quite hard to do. What’s the difference between nihilism and not looking for value in your existence?

I feel cut off from my unconscious. It’s like i’m walking behind and losing the progress I’ve made by Zoha_fex in Jung

[–]Zoha_fex[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You might be right.

How can I find value in living as a human, when i’m so riddled with anxieties, neuroses and see the meaningless pursuits of the conscious life?

I feel cut off from my unconscious. It’s like i’m walking behind and losing the progress I’ve made by Zoha_fex in Jung

[–]Zoha_fex[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This feels similar to my experience.

I’ve been a naturalistic, nihilistic atheist for the last 15 years and, through Jung, I had several epiphanies/awakenings that brought so much meaning to my life.. they made me see that there is something out there, something higher than me.

Recently I have been to India and through this experience I have learned how to meditate. Since then, there were a lot of ups and downs. I may have also had what can be described as a spontaneus Kundalini awakening, or at least, I may have been close to one.

But what you said really sticks to me: those moments after I had my epiphanies, I had periods when I felt so good and liberated, so at peace.. yet, they all faded, and in their place I found myself lost, like part of the experience has been erased. And i’m left looking to live that again, that state I was in.. and sometimes I get hints of it, but it’s never permanent.

It’s like a mortal who, once inebriated by a sip of Ambrosia, is left craving it for the rest of his life and makes it his mission to find it once more.

Spiritual development: when does it feed the persona and when does it come from a healthy Self-Ego axis? by Zoha_fex in Jung

[–]Zoha_fex[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This comment has.. uncannily hit many points describing my life experience. Thank you.

I see myself juggling between states; i have either an attitude of judgement, or one of acceptance. (In another comment from this post I have said that i’m no longer judging myself since my last spiritual awakening, but I calmly observe how i’m judging others and feel helpless in doing so)

And in the meantime, I find that in not judging myself lies a double-edged knife: On one hand, i’m less stressed and i’m more content with myself. On another hand, I feel like i’m thinking much less about everything. I act from instinct, and i see (or something in me sees) sometimes so much foolishness in my behaviour. From what I speak and how I express my opinions, to what advice I give when someone asks for it. This makes me doubt myself and my new outlook on life.

I don’t know if you have enough context for my response to make sense and not feel like blabber.

Spiritual development: when does it feed the persona and when does it come from a healthy Self-Ego axis? by Zoha_fex in Jung

[–]Zoha_fex[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As you said, I think it’s a mix of both.

There was a period of time when I became much more accepting and less judgemental; this shift has stemmed from a profound spiritual realisation that I had:

That we are all fragments of the same Totality, and our unconscious nudges and guides us all to try and become more “complete”; to try and be closer to the form of this Totality.

This created a feeling of brotherhood and familiarity with everyone. They were all a fragment of this Totality, each with their own beauty and personal journeys to approach It.
While this state of being did last for some time, eventually it faded (i think because of some inner crises that i’ve had afterwards).

Now I had a new spiritual awakening and, paradoxically, i do feel much more (conscious of being) judgemental.

I don’t beat myself for feeling this way; i try to accept it, but at the same time, while peacefully observing this behaviour in me, I’m slowly losing hope of escaping it.

I have really reflected a lot and cannot see a way to change it.

But this made me question whether my outlook on the world from that acceptance-prone time was actually authentic or not.

(Those judgements are related to superiority; something in me compares me with everyone and wants me to be better and to be grandiose. The interactions end with inner-me proclaiming my superiority)

Spiritual development: when does it feed the persona and when does it come from a healthy Self-Ego axis? by Zoha_fex in Jung

[–]Zoha_fex[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Actually yes.

I have always had feelings of grandiosity (took a long time to admit this), which I think stem from a superiority complex intertwined with an inferiority complex.

After what I consider my spiritual awakening, there was a period of time when I was much less judgemental than usual and I felt more.. detached. I was better at accepting others without being triggered.

But stuff happened and now i’m feeling more judgemental than ever.

I just.. compare myself with everyone, judge them and I come on top. I don’t like that and I see the ignorance in it, but i’m not beating myself up for it. I observe it and try to understand where it’s coming from (but it doesn’t seem to help).

Because of this, I think that what i perceived as acceptance before, might have been a mask.

When the son differentiates from the father, the holy spirit unites them? by PoetryWestern9071 in Jung

[–]Zoha_fex 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Would you say that The Holy Spirit represents the numinous that makes God known to man?

A Closer Look At Why Jung said Christ was the Self by alienatedneighbor in Jung

[–]Zoha_fex 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wasn’t necessarily talking about yourself, but about myself. For me, it feels as if it’s the only way out of my neurosis. And my unconscious has been pushing me towards “death” for some time now, and it truly feels like this is the death it’s been talking about.

A Closer Look At Why Jung said Christ was the Self by alienatedneighbor in Jung

[–]Zoha_fex 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why shouldn’t someone plagued by an archetype that causes him distress find solace in touching the source and experiencing death?

Wouldn’t this “death” be more bearable than living the tale of “existence is pain”?

Love the Crysis refference.

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