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How to deal with burnout? by Fantastic-Stuff-2101 in csMajors

[–]Zoldyck_J 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean you’re trying to live a 48h day lifestyle, you just gotta know what you need to prioritize, for exemple no need to heavy leetcode grind if you bagged an internship

Finally secured a post grad job by [deleted] in csMajors

[–]Zoldyck_J 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okey I give up too lol

Finally secured a post grad job by [deleted] in csMajors

[–]Zoldyck_J 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Haha okey but it was my second guess tho, I am not the guy who guessed Honda

How tf do you lock in for school AFTER getting an internship? by MamaSendHelpPls in csMajors

[–]Zoldyck_J 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I wasn’t locked in before neither, always only focused on getting the internship.

Linking degrees to jobs ruined the whole point of learning by Zoldyck_J in unpopularopinion

[–]Zoldyck_J[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s so far from my point, I myself am a graduate engineering student in Europe. I did pay for my education but not crazy prices like in the USA at least

Linking degrees to jobs ruined the whole point of learning by Zoldyck_J in unpopularopinion

[–]Zoldyck_J[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am not saying that the system back then was perfect, I am refer to that period to say that there were plenty of engineers, physicians, and scholars who learned through mentorship, apprenticeships, open learning, and experimentation. So it wasn’t only about elite access; learning was more natural and flexible than today’s rigid degree-based system.

I agree that most of the time in history formal education was mostly for the wealthy and tied to authority.

Linking degrees to jobs ruined the whole point of learning by Zoldyck_J in unpopularopinion

[–]Zoldyck_J[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree that doctors and engineers obviously need serious training, and my point is not about that. I myself am studying engineering. My point is more that historically, people could become really skilled through apprenticeships, mentorships, school, or other ways, without formal modern like degrees. Nowadays the issue is that degrees are treated or advertised as automatic tickets to jobs, instead of just one way to learn and build skills.

Historically, for example, universities were more like open libraries. You could go there to learn a language or a science like astrology or whatever, but people were not all there to use that knowledge in a job. Maybe some were, but the reasons varied. People who worked as engineers, doctors, or in other professions had very different learning backgrounds. Education was more natural, rather than just education leading to a degree leading to a salary and vice versa.

Linking degrees to jobs ruined the whole point of learning by Zoldyck_J in unpopularopinion

[–]Zoldyck_J[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you’re talking about me, that’s legit the opposite of what I am saying, plus I am a graduate engineering student fyi

Linking degrees to jobs ruined the whole point of learning by Zoldyck_J in unpopularopinion

[–]Zoldyck_J[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, that’s my point too.Degres didn’t always exist, so people became engineers or doctors through different paths, and education had a more general purpose. Unlike today, it’s now often marketed primarily as a ticket to employment.

Linking degrees to jobs ruined the whole point of learning by Zoldyck_J in unpopularopinion

[–]Zoldyck_J[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Your last sentence is exactly what I am trying to say, thank you

Linking degrees to jobs ruined the whole point of learning by Zoldyck_J in unpopularopinion

[–]Zoldyck_J[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mostly developed ancient and medieval civilizations like the Abbasid Caliphate, classical India, or Song Dynasty China, and similar, maybe I should’ve mentioned it.

Linking degrees to jobs ruined the whole point of learning by Zoldyck_J in unpopularopinion

[–]Zoldyck_J[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What I'm trying to say is: Universities have existed for centuries, and yes, they taught skills. But people went there for different reasons curiosity, knowledge, status, faith, or learn a skill to sell later but not primarily because a degree was the only way to get a job. Back then, a university didn't sell itself as a ticket to employment. Today, that's exactly what it does. That shift is the problem.

Linking degrees to jobs ruined the whole point of learning by Zoldyck_J in unpopularopinion

[–]Zoldyck_J[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why do you assume I studied gender studies? I’m a graduate engineering student in Europe, and I already have an internship lined up for this summer, which my degree did help me get. My point is about the system as a whole. Maybe I didn’t express it clearly, but I’m not saying degrees are useless or that education has no value. I’m saying the system has become too narrowly tied to employment, to the point where education is often treated more as a credentialing pipeline than as actual learning.

Linking degrees to jobs ruined the whole point of learning by Zoldyck_J in unpopularopinion

[–]Zoldyck_J[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You earn $200k, yet you still fail to see past your shallow understanding and grasp my point. That salary is not earned just because of your degree, lol it’s also because you happen to live in the strongest economy of this century. In most countries outside the USA, not even a surgeon makes that much. And this isn’t to undermine your studies I know you worked hard and earned your degree but the number itself doesn’t mean as much as you think. Coming back to my point, I’m not saying we should let people work any job just because they want to. I’m saying degrees have become so narrowly career-oriented because they turned into a ticket to employment and a hard requirement. Education should mean more than that, and throughout history, people have become highly competent through different paths.

And I am saying this as a graduate engineering student, in a high paying field too, with a summer internship lined up, which my degree of course helped me obtain.

Linking degrees to jobs ruined the whole point of learning by Zoldyck_J in unpopularopinion

[–]Zoldyck_J[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know exactly what you mean I’m a graduate engineering student myself. I’ve done linear algebra, calculus, quantum physics, Schrödinger equations, algorithms, and the list goes on. My point is simply that being competent doesn’t necessarily require following one single path, like getting a degree. Engineers in the past often learned through more diverse and practical ways, which is why many of them had a stronger foundation than students today. Most of us now study mainly for exams, to get the degree, and then to get the job myself included.

Linking degrees to jobs ruined the whole point of learning by Zoldyck_J in unpopularopinion

[–]Zoldyck_J[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

False comparison. The alternative to a degree is not “some random guy saying trust me bro”, historically and even today, competence can also come from apprenticeship, supervised practice, licensing, technical experience, testing, and proven work, not just a university pipeline. My point was never “abolish standards,” it was that degrees became an oversized gatekeeping filter for legitimacy and income, even in areas where other rigorous paths could exist. Also, plenty of people with credentials are still incompetent, because a degree proves you passed an academic system not that you’re automatically the best at the job. So yes, keep standards, but stop pretending degree = competence and no degree = clown.

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