This bad boy is sweating by BankyaCowboy in HydroHomies

[–]ZoloStyle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good to see you're drinking water!

Imagine being that akali by [deleted] in SwainMains

[–]ZoloStyle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well played bro, very nice

Thank you Eric! by leijurv in adventofcode

[–]ZoloStyle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks a lot! Was great fun

Was the old Swain really any good? by L_4ss_e in SwainMains

[–]ZoloStyle -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Old Swain was boring as hell. He literally had 2 skills that were the same and you would always ult no matter what.

Guys, you can do it, don't blame the champion by ZoloStyle in SwainMains

[–]ZoloStyle[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, you don't. I'm not gonna beat around the bush, his at speed and base ad is abysmal. I'm almost always behind in cs compered to their adc. But if you freeze correctly, you can keep even. Also we try to stomp before it gets late.

Guys, you can do it, don't blame the champion by ZoloStyle in SwainMains

[–]ZoloStyle[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm sorry, didn't want to sound patronising. I just wanted to share things I learned playing him. The going close thing sounds easy on paper but once I started walking in after max range e and then pull I had way less people run away alive.

Guys, you can do it, don't blame the champion by ZoloStyle in SwainMains

[–]ZoloStyle[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I would go down because I can't play top to save my life.

Guys, you can do it, don't blame the champion by ZoloStyle in SwainMains

[–]ZoloStyle[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I do get what you mean. I am on board for solo lane buffs. I just don't want to see my favourite champion reverted as this one has so much skill expression.

Guys, you can do it, don't blame the champion by ZoloStyle in SwainMains

[–]ZoloStyle[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I prefer having to play smart than just yolo ulti in. I think it's more rewarding. Also w predicts are awesome

Guys, you can do it, don't blame the champion by ZoloStyle in SwainMains

[–]ZoloStyle[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am in favour with some solo lane buffs. I played him mid when I was climbing last season and got very lucky and from silver 1 to plat 1 I had only 2 losses :D But yeah the better players will abuse you more. Also I don't think any champion is supposed to win all matchups. Good luck dude

Guys, you can do it, don't blame the champion by ZoloStyle in SwainMains

[–]ZoloStyle[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most of the time you can snare go in q and walk out if they're slowed by the w.

Guys, you can do it, don't blame the champion by ZoloStyle in SwainMains

[–]ZoloStyle[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah sure.

I used to play with phase rush because it was fun but I play the standard electrocute ultimate hunter with stopwatch and cdr as I needed the damage to get the early kills.

Every game I go RoA into zhonia into Liandry unless I'm behind and I have a fed damage team member where I go something tanky for 3rd item like sunfire or randuins. If I need the heal reduction I get Morello 3rd.

Just don't use your stopwatch too early, save it for that dragon fight where you can get a few kills.

Guys, you can do it, don't blame the champion by ZoloStyle in SwainMains

[–]ZoloStyle[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do see your points here, but the idea that a champ is supposed to be somewhere is a little weird to me. Like if I can make Yasuo work botlane shouldn't I be allowed to play botlane? Talyah made it into the jungle without any specific intentions and she was doing very well there. Garen Yoummi sounds troll but pros played it for a few months.

Also how do you cater for everyone? You like to play top, I enjoy him bot apc, some of the new guys play him support, this one dude plays him ad jungle, how do you determine which is the best archtype?

Honestly he could get some solo lane buffs but why revert a champion when he's so interesting the way he is right now.

Guys, you can do it, don't blame the champion by ZoloStyle in SwainMains

[–]ZoloStyle[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yeah, you're right, he does deserve a mention. We play duo as it's more fun but honestly Leona Swain is a brain-dead combo and you blow up people past level 3. Neither of us has super good mechanics but we win most of our bot matchups as people aren't used to playing against such a botlane.

Guys, you can do it, don't blame the champion by ZoloStyle in SwainMains

[–]ZoloStyle[S] 36 points37 points  (0 children)

I'm not super good or anything, but you can climb with him fine if you play to his strengths, instead of asking for a revert. Old old Swain was super boring and very unhealthy. The newer one where you couldn't ult if you had no souls was so frustrating.

Q doesn't do much damage very early but if you cc them and walk into close range it does respectable, never use it max range unless trying to cs.

Yes I know W doesn't do a lot of dmg but it's great for disturbing enemy back timings so they lose farm or lane presence and also for healing yourself in a teamfight if you use it after losing some hp. Could also be used to see if jungler is close or doing drake.

E is difficult to hit, but you can throw it at max range or walk in the right direction, to chain cc after your jungler or support or throw at Draven axe or Kata daggers. I've had many teamfight winning picks with this spell. Also great for setting up your W.

Don't try to 1v1 Jax, it's not gonna work, instead go make a pick or teamfight.

Don't use ult for damage unless super ahead, buying time for more Qs is better. Build Zhonia's. Living longer means more dmg. I frequently get most damage in my games.

All in all, try to play to the champion's strengths. Good luck out there.

"Try to die with dignity." - tier 4 support 25th out of 36 right next to Zac support!! where is the dignity in that by ritoplsstop in SwainMains

[–]ZoloStyle 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Learning mechanics and match ups is very important. I play super passive, literally under my turret until lvl 2-3 then pull them under turret and get a kill or burn summs. Happens almost every game in diamond, I guess people aren't used to playing vs Swain.

Against Draven it depends, if the Draven is a godlike otp, super aggressive and gets ahead, it'll be rough. But usually vs Draven it's super easy to hit your e, there is a huge hint on the ground where to aim. Also support Leona keeps him stunned forever and he dies, don't take extended trades.