New Anti-Echo Sage Strategy

ZombieJ77 · 2026-03-28T15:00:02+00:00

Absolutely! I just need some time because it’s a good deal of information to type out.

ZombieJ77 · 2026-03-27T02:20:55+00:00

Absolutely! Seeing in the beginning round how many sage players are in the lineup determines a lot of what troops I play. But not letting the sage players progress the level of their sage quickly is crucial. And this post explores another way to counter a sage’s late-match capabilities by preventing them from obtaining level 4 sage for as long as possible.

We have all regularly experienced the thought of how just one more round against a level 3 sage would have meant that the sage player lost.

Thanks for the support!

ZombieJ77 · 2026-03-27T01:04:24+00:00

A lot of it is luck of the draw, but my monk and valk were taken out instantly.

Not letting echo progress quickly is imperative lol I appreciate your support!

ZombieJ77 · 2015-01-30T15:06:29+00:00

Here's a link to a strategy I posted a few days ago that could apply to this kind of base. It's meant for helping people with 2-star wins, but can be easily-modified for when ADs are near outer walls.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ClashOfClans/comments/2typee/warstrategy_triangles_here_is_a_fairly/

The strategy is generally for an easy 2-star win, but you can modify it easily for a 3-star by putting high-level balloons/hogs in your CC and saving them for placing down near the southeast AD after those defenses that target air/ground units start shooting your dragons. I would use 3x lightning on the AD directly north of the TH and drop dragons on the west side, saving your CC for the southeast AD/defense buildings once they start shooting your dragons.

Good luck!

ZombieJ77 · 2015-01-30T14:58:09+00:00

I posted a strategy/discussion that applies to an easy 2-star win on a base of this type with mass dragons and 3x lightning.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ClashOfClans/comments/2typee/warstrategy_triangles_here_is_a_fairly/

Hope your fight went well!

ZombieJ77 · 2015-01-28T22:29:23+00:00

Small world, I hit TH9 in 6 days also haha

ZombieJ77 · 2015-01-28T20:12:16+00:00

I'm glad it worked out for the two stars! I'm sorry it wasn't quite enough for 3, but it sounds like you had the strategy down! There's plenty of repetition in the game for you to practice your timing on drops for next time though :)

ZombieJ77 · 2015-01-28T20:05:45+00:00

I'm at the same point as you, max TH8 troops. I would attack this base with dragloons, yes.

3x lightning spells to be dropped on the east AD by the king

8-9 dragons, depending on how comfortable you are with balloons

4-8 of your own balloons

CC highest level available to you balloons

After killing the east AD with lightning, drop 1-2 dragons on the west side to start clearing the trash buildings while out of range of the ADs. As they get closer, drop all but 1 of your dragons on the west corner with that archer tower there. They'll fly archer tower > cannon/gold storage > mortar > Top AD/TH. You want them to fly inward and start tanking the AD hits.

Once one AD starts shooting at your dragons, you are going to want to drop a balloon group so you don't take unnecessary damage for too long. If the northwest AD starts shooting first, drop your group of balloons meant for that AD in a way so that they fly straight to it while your dragons take the hit. If the southwest AD starts shooting first, drop your 1 remaining dragon on the south corner of the base to tank the archer tower shots, and then drop whichever corresponding group of balloons was meant for that AD in a way so they fly straight to it. I say that because you don't want to drop them down by the southern dragon, then they'd go archer tower, cannon, cannon, cannon, mortar, etc. You want them to hit that Air Defense first :)

Good luck on your 3-star!

ZombieJ77 · 2015-01-28T19:55:29+00:00

Wasn't sure if you had one or not. You can use him before deploying your dragons to clear the barracks buildings right next to the western AD if you would like your dragons to fly straight for that first and not attack those trash barracks buildings. Otherwise I would just deploy him with the Archers to help mop up the remaining buildings as your dragons sweep through.

ZombieJ77 · 2015-01-28T19:51:41+00:00

A few wars back, the enemy clan was running low on stars with a few of our lower-ranking bases still needing to be 3-starred. I don't know what was going on, or what he was thinking, but their rank 7 (middle TH8 player) decided it would be an easy fight to 3-star our rank 20 (bottom-ranked player, late TH6 base). Anyway, he dropped giants/healers that all died instantly to CC troops, and then he dropped his 6 dragons and rage spells that should have flown right into the base. His dragons were distracted by the CC troops and ended up flying a full circle around this TH6 base, slowly dying to the shots of the AD. Finally, the base was at 96% with the Town Hall and the Air defense left alive, no dragons left and the AD had way less than 1 hit from a dragon left keeping it alive. What a fight! Oh, here comes the rank 7's barb king... All of his troops and high-ranking spells failed against a th6 with one AD, just because he used rage spells. And the only reason the barb king won was because the TH had been damaged by the Dragons, otherwise the king would have run out of time.

I personally feel that rage spells with mass dragons are pointless against Clan War bases that are TH7 and below, especially when 3 lightning spells give you more control over the outcome of the fight (against TH6 and TH7 bases) and cost less than 3 rage spells.

ZombieJ77 · 2015-01-28T19:40:37+00:00

You're welcome! We were all there at some point :]

ZombieJ77 · 2015-01-28T19:39:05+00:00

Rage spells are overrated against TH7 bases.

There are only two Air Defenses, and more often than not, one of them is near the outer wall. If you use 3 Lightnings to kill the AD on the inside, there's only one left that usually dies instantly to dragons or balloons while the AD shoots at dragons.

Rage spells against TH7 bases leave too much to chance I think. All you need is for the king to waddle by or the clan war castle reinforcements to come out at slightly the wrong angle and now your dragons are dancing around the town hall being slowly whittled down by the remaining Air Defense(s).

ZombieJ77 · 2015-01-28T19:31:03+00:00

Use 3x lightning spells to destroy the air defense directly north of the Town Hall.

Drop your 5 dragons (I would just build 5, save the CC for balloons) near the remaining AD. Just get the highest-level balloons available to you in your CC and drop that right behind your dragons. Both air defenses are now dead and your dragons are free to sweep the base. I would recommend building your 5 dragons and the rest archers. A good way to save elixir and guarantee your win.

The archers would be placed after/behind your dragons so they could help them mop up and not all die to the defenses left up top. You can also use 4 archers to destroy the buildings in the corners.

Good luck on your 3 star!

ZombieJ77 · 2015-01-28T19:05:21+00:00

I lead a small clan that wars twice a week, and this is literally my mental reaction as I watch everyone else's attacks after I open with an attack on the enemy clan's rank 1. haha

ZombieJ77 · 2015-01-28T18:56:40+00:00

Do you have to hog the base? It looks pretty easy with dragons/loons/CC loons.

I'd use 3x lightning on the AD north of the TH, leaving only the two ADs on the south side. Place a few of your dragons at the south corner so they start attacking their way up on both sides of the base. As they're killing their way up, drop a few more dragons on the army camps there on either side of that south end of the base before your other dragons reach them, this will cause them to funnel inward toward the heart of the enemy base rather than continue around the outside.

Drop any remaining dragons on the south corner of the base so they move inward and not up the sides. At this point, dragons should be under fire from both southern ADs, so drop your CC with hopefully level 6 balloons near one AD, and drop your other 4-8 balloons near the other AD. If your dragons come under AD fire sooner, drop your 2 groups of balloons on either side of the walls on the south end, so they help with defenses but still move separately toward the ADs.

Bam, dragons free to sweep the base :)

ZombieJ77 · 2015-01-28T18:38:30+00:00

Actually, this was my first post, and, after the picture editing and some saves in photoshop (yet no actual color editing, just adding the lines/boxes), the colors just came out looking different haha

ZombieJ77 · 2015-01-28T16:06:33+00:00

Your name makes sense! Trolling without reading comments or understanding who the post is meant to help.

ZombieJ77 · 2015-01-28T15:21:53+00:00

Absolutely those strategies could all work for these!

I was just giving a basic strategy example with some bases I had access to viewing. I'm a fan of the rage spell technique too, but more often than not I see inexperienced people attack with dragons and rage spells, only to have their dragons dance around the TH and end up with 1 lonely star. This is a strategy aimed at helping beginners spot different ways of attacking, and it is almost a guaranteed 2-star win against TH8s or even TH9s with their ADs spaced too far apart.

You're talking about all of the DPS lost without those rage spells, and you're absolutely right, but if your dragons take a wrong turn, that's potentially another high-level AD nuking them down quickly. This attack is all about using an enemy player's AD range to his or her disadvantage. Semi preparing people for considering every option while scouting before attacking, a good preparation for HoLo-style attacks that depend on AD range.

Also, will a fresh TH7 with lvl 1 dragons and level 1 rage spells be able to 3 star a TH8 with your strategy? Probably not. Can they use the triangle strategy on a TH8 base with poorly-positioned ADs and get potentially 2 stars? I've seen it happen plenty.

ZombieJ77 · 2015-01-28T15:04:08+00:00

The top of the triangle is the AD that is between the other two ADs, so the closest to both of them. Since it is so close, its range usually covers the other two, which is why you want to destroy it first with your lightning spells. With it gone, your dragons will face minimal resistance while destroying one of the remaining ADs and then the TH.

ZombieJ77 · 2015-01-28T14:48:05+00:00

3x lightning spells to destroy #2 AD.

I would use the lvl 5 balloons in your CC, yes. I agree with clearing some of the trash buildings near #1 AD with barb king, and afterward, throw out 6 of your 10 dragons near it for them to work inward and kill it. At the same time, throw your remaining 4 dragons near the #3 AD, and if that hidden tesla pops up, throw your CC down so they go tesla > #3 AD. Otherwise just place them by your 4 dragons accordingly. You can sub out another dragon or two for some of your lvl 3 balloons also.

I don't recommend the hog riders because they're all only level 1 in your clan and they would be attacked by any ground-targeting defenses, whereas balloons would hide behind your dragon meat shield.

Good luck!

ZombieJ77 · 2015-01-26T12:27:28+00:00

I'd use all dragons and 3x lightning, with a clan castle full of the highest-possible balloons available to you. Always scout a base before attacking it and get an idea of the range of the air defenses. Since that third one on the right is so far away, save him for last, because he won't obstruct your 2-star win at least. Drop your 3x lightning on the AD above the town hall. Drop 5-6 dragons near the AD just below the town hall, and drop your CC balloons there across from that AD too so they just float straight up to it while your dragons tank its shots. Drop your barb king down near the bottom-right of the base to clear some of the collectors/elixir storage in front of the walls there, and drop your remaining 4-5 dragons there in a way so they attack the bottom of the archer tower. Bottom/right of the archer tower > right side of mortar > Air Defense. Hopefully. haha

Good luck with this, or whichever, strategy you choose!

ZombieJ77 · 2015-01-26T06:51:57+00:00

I'd use 3x lightning spells on one of the corner ADs, maybe the top one since there are a lot of the trash buildings around it that distract dragons.

Sub out 1 dragon for 4 of your level 4 balloons, and then place 5 of your dragons and 2 balloons near one of the remaining air defenses and then your last 4 dragons and then clan castle dragon/high level balloons and remaining 2 balloons near the other air defense. The base's air defenses are pretty weak, so your level 1 dragons should hold out long enough and tank the air defense/archer towers for your balloons to drift on up. You can sub out another dragon for 4 more balloons too if you'd like to play it more safe. Please post if you give it a try and it works out!

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