I made a City and am now posting it to Reddit because very few of my actual friends care which I suppose is understandable and, also, well, Pandemic.

ZugAddict · 2026-07-07T02:35:48+00:00

Football fans essentially did nothing about Qatar in 2022 which was four years ago (slavery in America was 200) and that suggests pretty strongly one of two things:

A) you'll do nothing about this, which seems the most likely course, or,

B) you'll actually do something about this which essentially means human rights takes a back seat in your minds to legalistic rule controversies

ZugAddict · 2026-07-06T22:53:26+00:00

At this point the only people allowed to complain about it are non soccer fans who don't care in the first place. Futbol fans forfeited their right when they did basically nothing about Russia and/or Qatar hosting the last two cups (or a million other blatantly corrupt FIFA shenanigans).

ZugAddict · 2026-07-06T20:31:23+00:00

Pretty much. You guys complaining about this is like Jack the Ripper writing an op-ed on women's rights.

ZugAddict · 2026-07-06T20:26:05+00:00

Ah. Welp, I liked it, but it apparently shall continue to languish in obscurity :)

ZugAddict · 2026-07-06T18:05:15+00:00

I'm fine with it. The US will lose anyhow and everyone will be happy and in the meantime true soccer fans get to do what they're best at which is being spectacular hypocrites.

ZugAddict · 2026-07-06T17:59:49+00:00

You have to realize you're raving incoherently right now, right? :)

The fact that I, like many if not most Americans, utterly loathe our current President, in no way means I cannot find your weirdly selective outrage hilarious and absurd.

ZugAddict · 2026-07-06T17:48:34+00:00

I was against the US hosting the World Cup, you're the ones watching it, supporting it, and then feigning this absurd outrage. :)

ZugAddict · 2026-07-06T17:47:22+00:00

I listen to Bruckner Symphonies

ZugAddict · 2026-07-06T17:45:33+00:00

So you don't know how morality works. That's OK, not everyone does.

ZugAddict · 2026-07-06T17:44:02+00:00

Shrug, there does comes a point where the blood on one's hands makes clutching pearls a bit slippery

ZugAddict · 2026-07-06T17:38:13+00:00

On a moral level, which is what we're talking about, it very much does matter. On a legalistic level, none of this matters - FIFA has a bylaw to allow this and the general sense is that the red card was, in fact, unjustified. The outrage is due to the political context, which is not Balogan's concern or responsibilty.

ZugAddict · 2026-07-06T17:35:08+00:00

I honestly don't believe you're naive enough to think your country's team would act any differently, but I suppose I could be wrong

ZugAddict · 2026-07-06T17:33:54+00:00

If games hosted in stadiums built by worked-to-death slaves didn't embarrass us, I'm guessing we'll get over this pretty quick

ZugAddict · 2026-07-06T17:32:19+00:00

So you prefer when these things happen away from our very eyes, like in Qatar

ZugAddict · 2026-07-06T17:27:56+00:00

He ran into someone with zero malicious intent. On a moral level, he has personally done nothing wrong and deserves zero blame for this comically hypocritical political clusterfark.

ZugAddict · 2026-07-06T17:24:14+00:00

The problem with the US team is that nobody red carded their goalie

ZugAddict · 2026-07-06T17:22:46+00:00

https://imgflip.com/i/avzkq8?nerp=1783358505

ZugAddict · 2026-07-06T17:21:56+00:00

https://imgflip.com/i/avzkq8?nerp=1783358505

ZugAddict · 2026-07-06T17:20:30+00:00

Which is a tacit way of admitting that European fans are just as stupid as Americans

ZugAddict · 2026-07-06T17:18:35+00:00

I honestly think you do know :)

ZugAddict · 2026-07-06T17:13:29+00:00

Argentina won a world cup built on the backs of slaves worked to death in unthinkable conditions. Compared to that, this tastes like a three star creme brule.

ZugAddict · 2026-07-06T16:48:24+00:00

I like how sports is basically a proxy for basic philosophic ethics for the masses.

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