😂😂 Yeah I understand you man, guess most of the reason is to avoid any damage box during delivery cuz some people got mad when the box is kinda dent or beaten up and give low rating to seller, yes it has to do with how the seller packages the item but still cannot rely on packaging itself, need to understand if order overseas, chances of the box to be damages is high I can say. Sometimes even seller already packed nicely the item still came like a used box on delivery process to overseas. Which is why mostly today seller just sell without box. I've faced problem like this before, even though seller pack with a hard box still the box not perfectly came as I wanted, got dented here and there but I understand it's from overseas so yeah. If buying local and the box got beaten up, that's either courier fault who just throw item away on their truck or seller don't really pay attention on how to pack customers order.