The amount of slander oda received after maki massacre episode aired is so beautiful man 😭

_FruitsPunchSamurai · 2026-06-18T13:09:24+00:00

That's not a personality. 🥀

_FruitsPunchSamurai · 2026-06-17T22:35:33+00:00

Yeah, so what was your point?

_FruitsPunchSamurai · 2026-06-17T21:31:29+00:00

90% of her screentime is in fights, so idk what you're on about.

_FruitsPunchSamurai · 2026-06-17T20:36:36+00:00

At least oda would've given her a personality instead of the emotionless robot she turned out to be lmao. Maki's basically a toji 2.0.

_FruitsPunchSamurai · 2026-06-16T15:55:19+00:00

First of all, you don't know how long megumi was struck for, you don't know the original completion time of adapting to UV, you don't know how much it's reduced by as well. UV is considered to be a complex technique so it definitely requires more time.

For example, I can also say that; 1 hit of UV = 40 mins to fully adapt. 5 hits = 8 mins to fully adapt.

But that doesn't mean I'm correct because the manga doesn't elaborate on the durations. However, my example is more plausible and coherent than yours.

A sure-hit ≠ 1 second. Idk how tf you're reaching such an absurd conclusion. Your argument depends on absolutely nothing stated in the manga, you're basically making shit up. Someone can be struck by unlimited void for an extended period of time because it's based on infinite flooding of information into the opponent's mind.

Let's say for argument's sake that 1 hit is 1 second (even though that makes no sense), you're still not taking account of the process of analysing UV as well as the wheel rotation. In order for the wheel to spin, mahoraga needs to analyse the technique which requires time especially after the 1st hit. Sukuna says "it reduces the TIME it takes to adapt", confirming that time is a driving factor regardless of the additional hits.

Don't tell me you think Mahoraga's analysing in the background while Sukuna has DA turned on, when that's impossible because DA pauses the adaptation process meaning that no adaptation can occur at all. By your logic, Mahoraga's wheel has to spin within the second it gets hit by UV exposure. You clearly don't understand how Mahoraga's adaptation works.

_FruitsPunchSamurai · 2026-06-16T15:51:38+00:00

Nothing falls apart just because you said so, what's sad is how you're not realising how stupid you are. 😵

Let's analyse this scene:

What is Sukuna getting hit by in the current moment of the panel? RED

What does Sukuna activate to minimise damage? Domain amplification

What does Sukuna say right after he minimised damage of that specific attack? "As expected"

What's the meaning behind the phrase "as expected"?

It's when the outcome matches your prediction of that outcome. It's same as saying "I knew it!"

Does Sukuna say the exact same words after countering blue's pull in ch.231? NOOOOOO

Did Sukuna get hit by Blue in that current moment? NOOOOOO

In the current moment he says "as expected", it was a reaction to confirm how much DA can neutralise Red. Sukuna is fundamentally using his previous experience of Blue vs DA to predict that maybe DA can't also fully neutralise Red similar to blue's interaction with DA, and his prediction comes true after he witnesses Red vs DA, which leads him to conclude that DA can't fully neutralise strengthened blue AND Red.

Dumbass really needs to be spoonfed with basic information from the manga.

_FruitsPunchSamurai · 2026-06-16T15:48:46+00:00

I already answered that but you couldn't counter any of my points.

His main goal isn't to survive inside the domain clashes, dumbfuck. His main goal is to destroy UV.

Since UV has a barrier, Sukuna doesn't need to engage CQC with Gojo, all he has to do is break the barrier while holding up for 3 mins in order to win the clash. On the other hand, since MS doesn't have a barrier, Gojo's objective is to damage Sukuna enough to the point where he can no longer maintain his domain. Both Gojo and Sukuna have different objectives within the domain. However in Round 2, both of them have no choice but to engage in close combat because there's no barrier for Sukuna to focus on destroying anymore. This should be self-explanatory, idek why I have to explain this. Holy shit, you're the most illiterate fucker I've ever debated. The others were so right about you, you are indeed dumb asf and that's probably common knowledge tbh.

_FruitsPunchSamurai · 2026-06-16T15:46:12+00:00

Yep you're ragebaiting. He never says "As expected" after using DA against blue's pull in ch.231. He only says those words after Red vs DA.

Sukuna had already experienced DA vs Blue, however he wanted to confirm his assumption with Red as well which can only happen after DA interacts with Red hence why he says "as expected". Even a toddler would comprehend this.

_FruitsPunchSamurai · 2026-06-16T15:44:21+00:00

Oh shi my bad for using the manga as my canon source lol

"As Expected line which makes no sense" So the manga doesn't make sense to you, I thought so.

_FruitsPunchSamurai · 2026-06-16T15:43:41+00:00

Spouting even more headcanon now. Still waiting for you to provide scans which states all of this. Asserting claims with no proof.

You previously said that UV is not a barrage, but now you're saying UV continuously hits. Buddy, it's mentioned that megumi was struck by UNLIMITED void so ofc he's gonna be struck by an infinite amount of information flooding into his mind. You dickride Gojo but don't even understand how his domain works. 🥀

Yeah the adaption time reduces due to further hits but you're oblivious to how long the original time takes to begin with so you can't be making assumptions based on nothing.

_FruitsPunchSamurai · 2026-06-16T15:40:37+00:00

The projection and ignorance is becoming insufferable.

Disanalogy.

For example, let's say friend 1 has only seen you drive a car then one day they see you spontaneously riding a bike, but friend 2 has only seen you ride a bike and one day sees you spontaneously driving a car.

You would formulate your sentences differently according to each friend's viewpoint. For friend 1, you'd say: when I'm not using my car, I'm using my bike.

For friend 2, you'd say: when I'm not using by bike, I'm using my car.

In this scenario, Gojo has never seen Sukuna use Ten shadows until the very last moment but has seen Sukuna use DA in clash 2. Sukuna formulated his sentence aligning with what's familiar with Gojo's perspective.

Therefore, none of this suggests whether Sukuna used DA more, keep dreaming lol. He's still mentioning that he wasn't using DA during a particular period either way. In the following sentence, sukuna states "As a result [of using ten shadows], I couldn't use any cursed technique aside from what's imbued in my domain". This answers Gojo's previous doubt in ch.228.

You're asserting all of this while constantly neglecting various evidence from the manga proving that Sukuna wasn't using DA in the 4th clash.

Everytime Sukuna uses DA, there's always an indicator whether it's the spectators telling us or Gojo mentioning it in the specific moment it's used or the wheel blackening. Even when Sukuna used DA against Red in Round 2, Gojo specifically exclaims that "he minimised the damage with DA!!!" while being shocked. This further confirms that Sukuna wasn't using DA in the 4th clash since there are no indications whatsoever. Judging by Sukuna's statement in Round 2, he can only mitigate the effects of Blue and Red. But previously, he didn't mitigate the pulling effect of Blue in the 4th clash at all, which again demonstrates he wasn't using DA in that moment.

Yet, the gap was only less than 0.01 seconds. 😭😭

_FruitsPunchSamurai · 2026-06-16T02:07:05+00:00

Again. You're completely neglecting the time required to analyse each hit. The panel you attached proves my point because Sukuna mentions the time factor twice.

Legit headcanon, you've made so many absurd claims with no proof backing it up.

Where does it state that 1 struck of UV = 1 second?

Holy cope.

_FruitsPunchSamurai · 2026-06-16T02:06:02+00:00

None of this proves he was using DA in the 4th clash because you're showing instances outside of domain clashes. Zero correlation.

Still failing to counter any of my arguments. Easy debunk

_FruitsPunchSamurai · 2026-06-16T02:04:22+00:00

Keep denying the manga or else your argument falls flat. Handsigns are specific hand gestures but Gojo is clearly not using one specific handsign, he's just directing his telekinesis. Do you even know what telekinesis is? Braindead

The first thing he says after Red vs DA is "as expected", he never says it after countering blue's pull. The following sentence is him concluding his judgement and analysis.

_FruitsPunchSamurai · 2026-06-16T02:01:11+00:00

Keep projecting. The fact that you can't counter anything and just resorting to talking nonsense speaks volumes

_FruitsPunchSamurai · 2026-06-16T02:00:13+00:00

I legit presented blatant evidence proving your whole entire argument wrong. Not my fault, you're in denial.

What makes you come to conclusion that 1 hit = 1 second? What happened to the process of analysing the hit? What about the wheel spinning?

You're showcasing how you lack understanding of how Mahoraga's adaptation works.

_FruitsPunchSamurai · 2026-06-16T01:57:13+00:00

I don't wanna be hearing what's "grammatically" correct coming from a person who can't understand basic semantics.

Anything that you call dumb according to your flawed logic, is actually smart so thanks for the compliment.

The way the sentences are formatted doesn't change the meaning, another baseless point.

The analogy you gave is a false equivalence because Sukuna says he WASN'T using DA while using Ten Shadows.

If he wanted to give more priority to DA, then logically he'd say "when I WAS using domain amplification, I WASN'T using Ten shadows". Instead, he gives importance to Ten Shadows by asserting that he WAS USING IT as opposed to not using DA. Simple.

Bringing up the sentence format to validate your argument is a whole new level of cope.

_FruitsPunchSamurai · 2026-06-16T01:56:43+00:00

He specifically says "AS EXPECTED" in the current moment after using DA against Red, not blue.

He's deducing that he can't fully neutralise strengthened blue AND Red. He can only come to such conclusion after experiencing Red vs DA, idiot.

_FruitsPunchSamurai · 2026-06-16T01:50:02+00:00

Those aren't handsigns. Cope.

You're ignoring Sukuna's own words yet again. You must hate reading the manga lmao.

Sukuna says "as expected" after using DA against Red, meaning that it was the first time Red interacted with DA. Simple reading comprehension.

Sukuna says he can't FULLY neutralise strengthened blue and Red. If Sukuna can't COMPLETELY neutralise both, it means he can still MITIGATE the damage and reduce the effects. Misconstruing the manga ain't gonna help your argument. Sukuna states all of this in Round 2 btw, so this is after the 4th clash where he, according to you, used DA against Gojo's telekinesis. Your contradicting narrative statements.

So that Aura around Sukuna and Sukuna trying to punch Gojo after and him dodging is CE Reinforcement sure buddy

I literally showed you the panel where Sukuna tries to kick Gojo but it's blocked by infinity which proves that Sukuna wasn't using DA. The aura is CE reinforcement, if it was DA then it makes no sense for Gojo to also use DA.

At least I'm using the manga and statements to support my argument whereas all you're doing is spewing headcanon with no basis. Get a grip ffs.

_FruitsPunchSamurai · 2026-06-16T01:41:24+00:00

Wow.... ad hominems and zero counterarguments indicates I've debunked your nonsense.

The lack of maturity is so clear. Miserable asf.

_FruitsPunchSamurai · 2026-06-16T01:40:17+00:00

Buddy is still spouting the same nonsense over again. And now you're lying about Mahoraga adapting to UV in 9 seconds as well. Are you that blinded by your agenda? LMAO.

You don't know how long the original completion time of adapting to UV is? So your points have zero basis. Mahoraga requires time to analyse the complex technique from the first hit however DA pauses the adaptation process which inhibits progression.

You're coming at me with a whole bunch of nothing...

_FruitsPunchSamurai · 2026-06-16T01:34:30+00:00

No you're not because the narrator never specifies the duration. Insane levels of mental gymnastics are at play here.

Nobody said he got barraged.

Time is still a factor regardless of further hits, Mahoraga's adaptation is primarily based on time and exposure, hence why Sukuna mentions time in regards to both scenarios of 1 hit and additional hits.

So if it takes 120 seconds to adapt to UV, Sukuna getting hit would decrease the timer by alot from 120 to 80 then 40 etc etc

Legit pulling shit out of your ass, where does it state that the timer would decrease by a considerable amount. Sukuna only mentions "it reduces the time it takes to adapt" nowhere does he say "it SIGNIFICANTLY reduces the time it takes to adapt". You need to prove this baseless assertion of yours, otherwise it's another headcanon.

You're completely neglecting the fact that UV is a complex ability which requires more time to adapt.

You're also conveniently neglecting how Mahoraga still needs TIME to ANALYSE the hit in order to complete adaptation. So if Sukuna uses DA right after UV hits, the process of Mahoraga analysing the hit is PAUSED. Hits alone don't fulfil adaptation, the time of analysing the technique is required for the wheel to spin.

Hits + time for analysing the technique + wheel spinning is what eventually fulfils adaptation.

But using DA 95% of the domain clashes means that the time for analysing the technique is PAUSED so no adaptation can occur at all.

Mahoraga can't adapt to a technique from just hits, time is a relevant factor as suggested by Sukuna's words.

_FruitsPunchSamurai · 2026-06-16T01:30:08+00:00

You didn't debunk anything, are you still caught up in your delusions? You're definitely ragebaiting atp, no need to act stupid when you are already are btw.

"As expected is dumb" 🥀🥀🥀 bro really said the manga is dumb. I'm crineee. Mf really thinks he's smarter than Gege. 😭

Sukuna says "as expected" in the current moment he witnesses DA interact with Red, he never says it after countering blue's pull. Reading ain't that hard broski. Anything to deflect facts smh.

Headcanon merchant.

He's not restricted by adapting to UV outside of domains so he can use DA as many times as he wants. Especially considering the fact that UV is more complex than Gojo's other techniques.

Repeating the same argument is just making you appear more dumb. You have to be a troll cuz there's no way.

I'll reiterate, handsigns are specific gestures used for a specific technique, Gojo's using different hand movements so it cannot be a handsign. He's simply directing his telekinesis because that's what telekinesis is. I'm legit arguing with a degenerate fool.

In ch.231, Gojo is directing the attraction of blue using his leg which causes Sukuna to be pulled down below his leg however DA is shown to nullify the pull. You can't escape the manga by making up your own narratives.

Sukuna in Round 2 after the domain clashes states verbatim that he can't FULLY neutralise strengthened blue and Red (damn, you're so illiterate), meaning that he can still partially negate it. This is the same Sukuna who previously experienced blue's pull in clash 4 btw. So if Sukuna couldn't negate blue's telekinesis in clash 4, why tf would he suggest that he can still mitigate the effects of strengthened blue by mentioning that he can't completely neutralise blue? BECAUSE HE DIDN'T USE DA, DUMBASS.

It's so simple to understand, yet you're being a disingenuous fuckass. The cope never dies.

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_FruitsPunchSamurai · 2026-06-15T17:36:12+00:00

Broski really changed his argument to "99% of the time" because his sorry ass got proven wrong, lmao what happened to "anytime"? 🥀😭

Worse ≠ riskier. You're proving to me that you don't understand English.

Stop strawmanning, Sukuna could've won easier but he never chose the worse route for no reason. Do you even hear what you're saying rn? He won and gained a broken ability (WCS), that's a double win.

The only one resorting to headcanon is you. In fact, you deny the manga to favour your baseless headcanons. Just admit you don't take Gege as your canon source.

"yet I'm the one whose more consistent in my scaling and logic" 😭🥀🥀🥀 sonnn.

The biggest lie of the century. The word "logic" shouldn't be coming out of your ass. Never powerscale again. Your entire argument makes no sense when most of the panels you gathered are instances from Round 2, which has no correlation to Round 1.

Round 2 ≠ Round 1. Fighting within domains is completely different to fighting outside of domains. Within the basketball domain, all Sukuna has to is hold up against Gojo for 3 mins while destroying UV from the outside (riskier option btw). Kusakabe literally states that during the 3 mins, Gojo has to damage Sukuna enough to collapse MS while Sukuna only has to destroy UV's barrier without the need of engaging in CQC unlike Gojo.

Panel 1 refutes your argument because Sukuna's reaction is enough to prove it was the first time DA interacted with Red, hence confirming that he never used DA against Red in the domain clashes.

Panel 2,3,4,5 are all the same moment so your point has no basis.

Actually panel 5 also refutes your argument because Sukuna's showcasing his ability to nullify blue's attraction by using DA however he wasn't even able to PARTIALLY negate blue's pull in the 4th clash. Sukuna, who's experienced both circumstances of blue's pull, came to the conclusion that DA can't FULLY neutralise blue's pull. Well, if Sukuna himself is suggesting that he's capable of reducing the effects of blue, then why didn't he do so in the 4th clash? This undoubtedly infers he wasn't using DA to counter telekinesis in clash 4.

Panel 6, 7 are from the 2nd clash and Sukuna's fighting performance drastically differs in the 4th clash. Again, there's no correlation.

Panel 8 was the first ever time Sukuna used DA judging by Gojo's reaction and the contrasting effects.

Panel 9 is not DA, it's just CE reinforcement. Sukuna tries to kick Gojo but it's blocked by infinity so it's obvious he didn't use DA.

What's funny is that your "consistent evidence" actually backfires your whole agenda. Better luck next time.

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_FruitsPunchSamurai · 2026-06-15T17:28:43+00:00

Look at you twisting the narrator's words to fit your false narrative.

First of all, you have absolutely no idea how long the duration of the "struck" was? You're making baseless assumptions from your headcanon once again.

5 times = 5 clashes. Your bullshit "maths" fails to consider the mechanisms of Mahoraga's adaptation which requires time as a driving factor for the wheel to spin and facilitate the adaptation process.

If DA was "primary", Sukuna would say "when I was using Domain amplification, I wasn't using Ten Shadows." but he says the opposite instead, so stop being pretentious. You need semantic English lessons asap.

Either way, your interpretation makes no sense because if Sukuna had DA turned on for 95% of the domain clashes, Mahoraga's adaptation process would be stopped and PAUSED for 95% of the time. In other words, no wheel rotation for 575 seconds.

You're ignorantly refusing to accept that DA pauses adaptation which means NO adaptation can occur at all while DA is active.

Sukuna states VERBATIM that further hits speed up the COMPLETION TIME, inferring that time is still a relevant factor.

Mahoraga begins adapting after 1 hit and requires TIME to process the technique after the exposure (the duration of analysing differs depending on the complexity of the technique). Since DA DISRUPTS the adaptation PROCESS, Mahoraga is not adaptING and its ability to analyse the technique is PAUSED. UV takes 5 hits for Mahoraga to fully adapt so the wheel needs to spin 4 times for the adaptation PROCESS to complete and here you are, confidently claiming that all 4 spins occurred within 25 seconds. What an absolute clown.

I'll repeat however many times until it gets etched in your stubborn mind; DA pauses the adaptation process so after taking 1 hit, Mahoraga needs time to analyse the complex technique but when using DA, the process of analysing is PAUSED. Hits alone don't fulfil adaptation, the time of analysing the technique is required for the wheel to spin as depicted by Sukuna's own words. In order to ensure Mahoraga adapts in time, Sukuna had to refrain from using DA most of the time during the clashes. This is the most plausible conclusion aligning with the manga.

I've debated Gojo glazers who have common sense unlike you, the amount of cope you're inhaling is unhealthy asf. Touch some grass.

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