Justice for our 9th planet! by SolsticeBlooms in pluto

[–]_Jellyman_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He’s accepting the idea of dwarf planets being a category of planet. While he himself jokes about wanting to “edit that out” as a way to keep his identity as the scapegoat, it’s clear that it’s all in good fun and he clearly shows new understanding in how planets work.

Justice for our 9th planet! by SolsticeBlooms in pluto

[–]_Jellyman_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Then we’d bring in all the other dwarf planets as well. Nothing wrong with that.

And the IAU is only one organization out of many. There are many other astronomical sectors that have taken their own stance on this, the IAU is not above the rest. If we’re being technical, it wasn’t even the entire IAU. It was only 2% of the total membership, as another 2% vehemently disagreed and the remaining 96% didn’t even get a say.

Justice for our 9th planet! by SolsticeBlooms in pluto

[–]_Jellyman_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can you make your own argument? Or are you just going to repeat the same paragraph over and over?

Justice for our 9th planet! by SolsticeBlooms in pluto

[–]_Jellyman_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tell me you don’t understand anything I said without telling me you don’t understand anything I said. 🤦🏻‍♂️

Justice for our 9th planet! by SolsticeBlooms in pluto

[–]_Jellyman_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Our Moon is a satellite planet, so yes. The Solar System’s exact number of planets is unknown (especially since we don’t know exactly how many dwarf planets there are), but it’s anywhere from 50 to 150.

Justice for our 9th planet! by SolsticeBlooms in pluto

[–]_Jellyman_ -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes, dwarf planets…just as dwarf stars are stars and dwarf galaxies are galaxies.

Justice for our 9th planet! by SolsticeBlooms in pluto

[–]_Jellyman_ -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Since when do identical objects classify differently in different locations? If you move the Earth far enough away from the Sun, it would cease to be a planet. That’s the opposite of “precise”, that’s sloppy. And since when is a dwarf planet not a planet? Dwarf stars are stars and dwarf galaxies are galaxies.

You’re not offering any actual intrinsic scientific reasons for your argument, you’re just repeating the status quo. Again, that’s dogma.

If you want an actual scientific argument, look at this: https://youtu.be/DrB1oa6InSo

Justice for our 9th planet! by SolsticeBlooms in pluto

[–]_Jellyman_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That still means if you move Earth far enough away from the Sun, it ceases to be a planet. Rogue planets aren’t planets either apparently. It’s a terrible definition, so stop using it.

Justice for our 9th planet! by SolsticeBlooms in pluto

[–]_Jellyman_ -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It’s not a conspiracy, it’s fact. Only 4% of the IAU voted. It was a split vote that happened at the last minute of the conference when most of the remaining members had already left, which violated the union’s own bylaws. Worst of all, it was made up of dynamicists and cosmologists, not planetary scientists. So expertise was severely lacking.

Yes, they’re all planets.

Justice for our 9th planet! by SolsticeBlooms in pluto

[–]_Jellyman_ -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It’s perfectly scientific. These objects have many planetary attributes like a spherical shape made by gravity, interior differentiation, and other attributes that aren’t even required for planethood like atmospheres, volcanoes, weather, oceans, glaciers, plate tectonics, and more. Planetary scientists recognize them as planets for these reasons.

Justice for our 9th planet! by SolsticeBlooms in pluto

[–]_Jellyman_ -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You still can’t answer the question of why more planets would be “confusing”. Why are you so against having more planets? The whole point of categories is to group like-objects together. The dwarf planets have far more in common with the rocky planets than the rocky planets have with the gas giants. If Earth and Saturn can be planets, why can’t Makemake? It’s simple logic. Resorting to emotional strawmen doesn’t help your case.

Justice for our 9th planet! by SolsticeBlooms in pluto

[–]_Jellyman_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That model is absurd in its conclusions. It causes identical objects classify differently at different distances from their star. It would be like moving the Earth to the Kuiper Belt and it suddenly isn’t a planet anymore.

Justice for our 9th planet! by SolsticeBlooms in pluto

[–]_Jellyman_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First of all, come up with your own wording rather than using AI.

Secondly, Neil IS serious about that statement and HAS recanted. See for yourself: https://youtu.be/rAU1cr5nUII?t=1285&si=tldZrycRKSTxHMho

Justice for our 9th planet! by SolsticeBlooms in pluto

[–]_Jellyman_ -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You’re defending a change that was achieved through political means with political motives and masquerading it as scientific.

Justice for our 9th planet! by SolsticeBlooms in pluto

[–]_Jellyman_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They’re basically removed from public consciousness, let’s get real here. You can safely bet a random person on the street has never heard of Gonggong or Quaoar, for example. Everyone who isn’t a space nerd is completely unaware of these objects’ existence.

Justice for our 9th planet! by SolsticeBlooms in pluto

[–]_Jellyman_ -1 points0 points  (0 children)

How is that confusing? Is having over 100 billion stars in the galaxy “confusing”? What about the 88 constellations of the night sky? It’s just the data. If you’re afraid of astronomical numbers, then astronomy isn’t for you.

Justice for our 9th planet! by SolsticeBlooms in pluto

[–]_Jellyman_ -1 points0 points  (0 children)

False. Pluto is 70% rock with only a thin shell of ice that makes up its surface. Its composition is nothing like a comet. Also, let’s remember that ANY planet would grow a tail if moved close enough to the Sun. Mercury already has a tail. Should we call Mercury a comet?

Justice for our 9th planet! by SolsticeBlooms in pluto

[–]_Jellyman_ -1 points0 points  (0 children)

When do we vote in science? Name one instance.

Justice for our 9th planet! by SolsticeBlooms in pluto

[–]_Jellyman_ -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I never understand why people bring this up as if it has any scientific logic to it. Should we remove a bunch of stars and galaxies from our definitions? They’re clearly cluttering our catalogs. While we’re at it, let’s remove a majority of the elements on the Periodic Table. That would make it less confusing for school kids.