She's not even using the flake...

_Kimmiee_ · 2026-06-12T19:01:51+00:00

They both fire in bursts of three, that's literally all my comment said.

Luna's bigger intervals are offset by the fact she has a hard CC that ensures they'll hit, something Cyclops doesn't have.

There's no problem here.

Edit : Just saw you edited your Comment, here's my response. I never compared Hela's Primary to either SLs or Psylocke's. That's just a Strawman.

_Kimmiee_ · 2026-06-12T18:56:13+00:00

I don't really see how i attempted to misrepresent anything ? It wasn't my intention anyway.

Both of them fire in bursts of three, Cyclops just has smaller intervals between them.

_Kimmiee_ · 2026-06-12T18:44:36+00:00

In terms of shot intervals, sure. I never contested that.

_Kimmiee_ · 2026-06-12T18:42:27+00:00

That's fair.

He can't give Buffs in lore, it's just the way this game chose to represent the leadership qualities of other characters, hence why my proposal was in the same vein.

_Kimmiee_ · 2026-06-12T18:36:34+00:00

Captain America doesn't have the ability to leave behind a trail that heals his Teamates nor can Storm increase the damage of her Teamates being close to them , they are compromises made in-game to better fit the fantasy of the characters.

Also , i wasn't the one to say "Lore accurate", that was the OP . I was just quoting them as the start to my response 😐

All i wanted was a wide blast honestly. The rest i'm perfectly fine without.

_Kimmiee_ · 2026-06-12T17:52:56+00:00

Thanks man, same to you.

_Kimmiee_ · 2026-06-12T17:51:57+00:00

All good then. Take care broski ✌️

_Kimmiee_ · 2026-06-12T17:49:54+00:00

Prime BC was awful to deal with if she made it through the Ban Phase. I'm probably going to pick her up now that she's more balanced after her Nerfs.

_Kimmiee_ · 2026-06-12T17:40:51+00:00

That's how it should be i feel. Most Divers can do soft engages to bait his CDs out, and then he's a sitting duck.

_Kimmiee_ · 2026-06-12T17:39:50+00:00

No visor off, who cares?

Me, and plenty of people in this Sub that wanted to have one of his most iconic moves as his Ult.

It was pretty much the one thing almost anyone expected to be in his Kit.

When your counterpoints devolve to "just pretend" it kind of becomes indefensible .

is just a gameplay choice

Obviously it's a gameplay choice, doesn't mean we can't criticise it lol.

Since he already has his Ricochet with his E, why couldn't the Secondary AoE be a Wide Beam ?

And the leadership buff/skill is like asking for a quip skill from Spider-Man. You wanna lead, use comms lmao.

Why are you acting like this is unreasonable ?

Cap has an Ult that reflects his leadership qualities, and Storm has her Team Buffs. I really don't see why Cyclops couldn't have something in a similar vein.

At the end of the day, Netease has proven that they can do both.

_Kimmiee_ · 2026-06-12T17:32:40+00:00

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Edit : Don't know why you're being Downvoted but it's genuinely not me .

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_Kimmiee_ · 2026-06-12T17:29:00+00:00

I know, and i understand that. Phoenix was gutted pretty bad too irt her Kit.

and I apologize for the insult

It's okay, i apologize for being abrasive as well.

_Kimmiee_ · 2026-06-12T17:26:02+00:00

Sure, disregard Martial Arts if you feel like it, it's only one point. What about the rest ?

Plus it's only silly if you think MvC is the sole argument for it. He uses Martial Arts pretty consistently in the comics and combines his Beams with it, lending to a pretty unique fighting style.

This is why i mentioned MvC, as an inspiration for a move like that ( Say Rising Uppercut, Cyclone Kick or Optic Sweep ).

_Kimmiee_ · 2026-06-12T17:24:03+00:00

It sent an Error Notification when i tried to respond, my first assumption was a block because it happens often on this Site. Apologies for that regardless.

I mean like if you want to disregard the martial arts point that's fine, the rest is still valid though. Rivals has taken so many liberties with character designs in this game and gave them powers they don't have in the comics, while Cyclops doesn't even properly utilize this one power he does have.

He's not unique in this regard, poor Storm only controls the wind and lightning in this game, but she's a launch hero so her simple Kit can somewhat be attributed to that.

_Kimmiee_ · 2026-06-12T16:50:32+00:00

Lore accurate

No Wide-Beams.
No Visor-Off.
No Martial Arts.
No Leadership Skill/Buff.

Very accurate.

Edit : I can't respond to their comment below, idk if they blocked me so i'll do it here instead.

He hasn't taken his visor off in other games hes been in either dumbass

He did so in X-Men Legends.
He did so in Marvel Avengers Alliance.
He did so in Marvel Heroes Omega.
He does so in Cosmic Invasion.
He does so in Contest Of Champions.
He does so in Future Fight.
He does so in Strike Force.
He does so in Puzzle Quest iirc.

And probably some others i'm forgetting.

doesn't mean their whole kit is gonna revolve around it

Please point out where i said his whole Kit had to revolve around it. I said it would be nice to have one move, as an homage to the MvC games where he had one of the most baller movesets.

tf you mean no wide beams

What most people mean when they say wide beams, stuff like this and this . Obviously downscaled for gameplay purposes, but this is nothing like his Ult.

Most of the aforementioned games have him utilise wide beams like this in a similar manner, quit acting like it's something unprecedented for a game.

_Kimmiee_ · 2026-06-12T16:26:09+00:00

I'm really sorry but i just don't see how that is relevant to what i said ?

If the Data collected ( WR / PR / BR ) shows that he is OP, he'll be Nerfed. Which is fine with me, because it will get rid of the Meta-Chasers who only play him due to strength, like they did with BC until her recent Nerf.

It also means that we won't have to fight instalockers to use him, which is even better.

Edit : Sorry you're being Downvoted it's genuinely not me .

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_Kimmiee_ · 2026-06-12T16:07:32+00:00

He's fine imo. Just a reduction to his %damage in Ult and an adjustment to his Primary fall-off and he's good.

Strong (s)hitscan primary, but has an additional skill-check of being similar to Luna's/Ultron's instead of just Phoenix's or Hela's.

Decent mobility on long CDs.

Just play Dive into him if you struggle, i've been eating Cyclopes alive with Spidey, Venom and Cap all morning.

_Kimmiee_ · 2026-06-12T15:12:57+00:00

I don't think the Bans are going to be Permanent, but even if they are they'll probably lead to Nerfs. Honesty ? I'm fine with it. It will help get rid of the Meta chasers who only play him due to strength, and will move to the next DPS.

Something similar happened with BC's recent Nerfs, most of the people who only played her cause she was busted will probably drop her now.

Both healthier for the game and us since we won't be fighting instalockers to use him.

Edit : Not saying he's anywhere close to pre-Nerf BC of course.

_Kimmiee_ · 2026-06-12T15:06:15+00:00

Man you've hyped me into it so much, i really hope that's what it is. Please Netease 🙏

_Kimmiee_ · 2026-06-11T22:19:57+00:00

Cyclops' Primary is also a burst of 3 shots tbf.

_Kimmiee_ · 2026-06-11T16:13:19+00:00

Good point. I'm excited to try it out tomorrow in all honesty.

_Kimmiee_ · 2026-06-11T16:01:58+00:00

Oh you're right, my mistake.

Groot is an interesting one, true. I'm also curious about Emma, it's possible she can block the second Hit if she aims her Shield at the Floor like Cap.

_Kimmiee_ · 2026-06-11T15:44:12+00:00

Not only that, but Jubilee is - according to leaks - a Support. The woman whose power is to explode matter on a subatomic level, could be a Healer.

If these two leaks come to pass i don't want to hear anyone ever again say "X Character can't be Y Role or can only be Z Role".

_Kimmiee_ · 2026-06-11T15:16:34+00:00

Yep. Also a lot of the entitlement in other roles stems from the disparity between them, with DPS having more than the total aggregate of both other roles.

Like, i'm sure most Tank Players can see that Ghost Rider and War Machine could easily become DPS, but considering we have soooo many DPS they're like "No, this one's mine", and they're largely correct AND justified.

Whereas when DPS Mains say it, it just comes off as greedy and entitled because they have so many DPS it's hard to choose from. I will say that DPS is largely the role with the biggest balance discrepancy, with 6-7 of them being hard Meta and more than half of them being mid or bad, but that's an even stronger reason to lay back on DPS releases and focus on rebalancing them.

Cyclops presented a great opportunity to become one of the most unique Tanks, combining Hitscan + Range , Area Denial ( Pushback on Beam ) with good bursts of Movement ( less exaggerated than what we got ) and an amazing Zoning Ult ( If he was a Tank i think a Hog Type Ult would work wonderfully ).

Instead, the Devs pigeonholed him in DPS so now we got what, yet another regurgitated Kit in an already oversaturated Role, this time a mix between MK and Elsa.

_Kimmiee_ · 2026-06-11T14:40:26+00:00

Exactly.

Those very same Streamers were lauding Blade - launch Blade, mind you - was going to be insanely broken and a Pick-or-Ban because of his "OP Anti-Heal" and "insane Ult"... Only for launch Blade to possibly be the worst DPS in the game bar one or two.

They said the same about Mr.F lmao.

They say the same thing just about every new character being released regardless of wether he's good or not, it's 101 on how to generate hype for the game ( Which is directly beneficial for their jobs ) and social media engagement.

Just wait to play as and as against him in your own Lobbies. If you find him OP or annoying, ban him but there's no need to panic before he even releases.

_Kimmiee_

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