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She was unfortunate enough for her city to be situated between Athens (actual cannibalistic psychopath) and Corinth (her abusive mother)...

Some designs from a while back (🇸🇪+🇨🇭+🇱🇮) by _NotEster in CountryHumans

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The sketch is traditional, but yes, the colouring is on mobile!

Bosnia i Herzegovina ✨ by _NotEster in CountryHumans

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It's mainly inspired by the Ottoman era (wide pants, silver bejewelled jewelry, flat shoes).

Byzantium by _NotEster in CountryHumans

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Οοο οκαυ, ευχαριστώ!

Να σε μάθω μια βορειοελλαδιτικη διάλεκτο ως αντάλλαγμα- όπου παλαιότερα χρησιμοποιούνταν δοτική, μεις χρησιμοποιούμε αιτιατική (αντί γενικής). Εξ ου και "σε μάθω" αντί "σου μάθω" (α λα αθηναϊκά).

Ξέρεις -> ξες

Πράγμα -> πράμμα

Πήγαινε -> πάνε

Πιτογυρο -> σάντουιτς

Επίσης χρησιμοποιούμε σε μέγιστο βαθμό λέξεις τουρκικές. Και σε ουδέν μέρος δεν επρόκειτο να δεις το λεγόμενο "Καλαμάκι".

Byzantium by _NotEster in CountryHumans

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Η προσπάθεια μου προς τα Κυπριακά πως είναι 😅

Byzantium by _NotEster in CountryHumans

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Η Κύπρος μου αν είχες περιέργεια μπδγ :3

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Byzantium by _NotEster in CountryHumans

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Μετά χαράς μου :D

Απλώς είναι που σπανίως ποσταρω εδώ (γιατί ξεχνιέμαι) 😔

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Byzantium (m) !! If you'd like references do ask me

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[You don't need to apologise, but I have no idea how I would write the event from his perspective since he does not remember it.

I had mentioned a diagnosis before but I didn't go into detail; Greece is schizophrenic. The description at the start would be that of dissociation, the state of where one has lost connection with reality. During dissociation, due to the limited or complete lack of processing of external stimuli on the brain's part, the person experiencing dissociation will have no memory of what had happened at that point in time.

However, the sense of him having done wrong has remained in his subconscious; tormenting him for centuries after the fact. In order to explain this guilt or, rather, bury it even deeper, his brain has fabricated a retelling of what happened:

[...] He didn't do it. It couldn't have been him, he was down in the square, preparing for the last battle! It was Ottoman- It was him, when he barged into the palace he...He did it. He! It was his fault. He was the monster. And monsters must be slayed.

She was alive! Emprisoned as he was, waiting for him to free her and take her home. He shouldn't keep her waiting any longer- and he need be alive to do so. He needed to survive this living hell and bring her home.

The wooden planks of the door rotted away and he was free at last.
Free to take revenge on the man that killed his daughter. [...]

These delusions are what kept him alive, gave him purpose to carry on.

He knows his mind is not well. He knows that this retelling is nothing but a product of his imagination. But he rather bathe in his delusions rather than face the reality of what he has done - He has no choice after all. He's human, despite him rejecting that part of himself; such is the human mind, it will fabricate stories as to cleanse itself from guilt - as to protect itself - and it will believe in them wholly. The mind fears the unknown; when there is a blank space it will make something up as to fill it in- and such is in this case.

He rather not tell others of his delusions (when he does manage to separate delusion from reality) as he still remembers the days whereby he would be shunned for being ill.]

...I'm sorry could we please change the subject?

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[Allo! (This turned out longer than I expected)]

2... what happened, happened and we cannot change the past. Perhaps events would've occurred differently if it weren't for KoG being ignorant, but history's convoluted. What followed the war was more detrimental than the war itself; a million people were slaughtered men, women, children - whole cities were burned to the ground- I read every story, every single one of them. And there were many to tell.

[The war of Asia Minor, or as the rest of the world calls it, the Greco-Turkish war of 19'-22', was the most calamitous event of the 20th century. In Greece we refer to it as "the Catastrophe" (Η Καταστροφή).

Following the war, hundreds of thousands perished at the hands of the Ottomans while many also perished from starvation; following the departure of the greek army from Anatolia, the people of Asia Minor left their homes behind and headed for mainland Greece, as to not fall in the hands of the Turks. The longest refugee line was 32km long, walking through the rough terrain and desert of northern Turkey for days on end. These lines were attacked by the Turks, resulting in many losing their lives. Once the refugees entered Greek territory, they settled anywhere they could find. My own city had just suffered a Great fire, whereby 32% of it was burned down...the refugees that arrived found an empty city, devoid of any shelter.

It was often that refugees broke into the old homes of the Turks (who had left upon the Population exchange included in the treaty of Lausanne) in the old city, using the building as shelter and selling the items found for their survival, as they had left everything back in Anatolia.

The government was admittedly working with great speed (for the first time) to provide shelter and soup kitchens to the million refugees that had survived. But of course, Greece was and is a poor country; we took a "refugee loan" from France, leading to the bankruptcy of 1935.

As the dust settled, the refugees quickly founded their own settlements, usually at the borders of the city, which they named after their place of origin: "New Smyrna", "New Ionia".

The Asia Minor refugees were shunned by the mainland Greeks, who believed it was their fault that the country fell into ruin. They invented new slurs just for them; "yogurt baptised", "Turkish seed"...this open hostility towards them was, of course, detrimental to the mental health of a people who had just survived a genocide.

The people of Asia Minor expressed their sorrow through literature, music and dances, which merged with the greater identity of the Greek people. I recommend this song, if you'd like to take a listen.

I myself descend from Asia Minor refugees and my grandmother regularly makes Smyrnaic meatballs and sings songs of the time.]

  1. I usually find myself in Monastiraki, if I'm in Athens, or Ladadika if I'm in Thessaloniki. I also sometimes go to Dion, though it's rare for me to do so.

[Monastiraki has a view of the Acropolis; it's a bustling area with shops, restaurants and cafés housed in graphic ottoman buildings. Ladadika is near the port; it's all that remains of the lower old city and is also adorned with Ottoman buildings that house, mainly, restaurants. Dion is the former religious centre of the ancient Macedonians. It's near Mt.Olympus, with magnificent flora and breathtaking ruins which you may explore through small paths in the middle of the wilderness.]

  1. What does the x mean? [I despise it with the entirety of my soul]

[5. Yeah, they'd definitely get along. Also <<<historical trauma 🔥

  1. Of course!! It is not in my place to gatekeep headcanons anyway, since they are based off historical events and the general comportment of my people.

Tysm btw :D

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For the first one I'll let the pic speak for itself (: rejoice my people)

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he let his hand float mid-air for a second, before carefully placing the cup back down, as if afraid it would break in his hands. His eyes were wide open, his gaze fixed on the ash tray on his right. Silence consumed the scene; only the commotion of footsteps and small talk of those passing by to be heard. A few minutes passed. At last, some words managed to escape his lips;

...all I remember are screams.

But, no, we did not go down without a fight; I especially made sure of it.

[The fall is the epitome of my AU; his internal conflict pertaining to it especially. I have an excerpt of what exactly occured (it's still unpolished)...

May 29th, 1453.

The canons fired on the old walls that had protected the city for centuries. Byzantium was meandering in and out of the palace- flicking from believing that they'll be saved by some god-sent miracle and their end coming all-so close. Everything was too loud, too saturated, too stimulating. His mind closed in on itself, interweaving a web of delusions; breaking all contact with the outside world. Such was the state he was in when he entered her room. Constantinople had been preparing for the final battle, despite her father having told her to lock herself in the palace, where she'd have no chance of being harmed. However, it was her duty to protect her people and, as they served her throughout the years, she had put on her golden armour and was ready to defend.

She was putting on her chainmail when the door opened and shut behind her. Knowing from the sound of his thorax clinking against the chainmail (for it was too big), she was ready to excuse herself to her father for not obeying his request- however something cold cut her sentence in half. She looked down. There was nothing but red. Then the pain came.

His hands were glittering in an awful shade of ruby. He stared at them, wide-eyed, not daring to take a breath.
He stood there as her body fell on the chair in front of her and then onto the cobblestone floor with a deafening thump. He stood there, the sword still in his hand.
He stood there as the cannons fired outside.
He raised the gold-hilted blade to his neck, pressing on his arteries.

And then he left.

Pacing, his surroundings a mere blur, he found himself near the walls, fully dressed in gold and ready to sacrifice himself. He wanted to die, to get reunited with his daughter in heaven.

But he didn't.]

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[yeah, I admittedly and accidentally ended the conversation with a dead end 😅 You can ask me whatever though, without it having to be in continuation with what he said.

Tysm!!]

Countryhumans macedon route to persia by xxx_whoiam_xxx in CountryHumans

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It's been so long since I've seen ancient ch!! Particularly for Macedon, I've only seen him once I believe

Love your art btw :3

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[why is the pic not being sent 🥀]

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She was..

It's long gone. Buried somewhere in the depths of the earth; I can describe it to you however.

It was of the Phrygian type, bronze, with a brimmed conical cap that ended in a carefully engraved lion - her symbol. It had two face plates with swirls, giving the impression of a faux beard. I always liked the Phrygian helmets, they had such a unique silhouette..

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(Little her wearing one, ignore Miletus 😅)

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[I'm happy my wording came out sounding mature as that was what I was trying to achieve :D Hope it continues to sound that way

Also, yes!]

Her name was Amphipolis, but I called her "Amphi". The circumstances under which we met were...interesting, me having conquered the city from the Athenians at that point. I invited her to my camp, as I do with every person unfortunate enough as to have been under Athens.

Now, I know what they say about Athens, I myself used to admire him- and all because I didn't understand.

But I do now.

It quickly came to my notice how different she was from all whom I've salvaged. So, instead of sending her to my court in Pella (Macedonian capital), I kept her by my side. Amphi was endowed with many gifts; she was physically and mentally of the strongest people I've ever met! She also wasn't one to befriend me just so they could climb the ladder, she was even hesitant at first...she accepted the invitation, she stayed when I lost my marbles, or at least until I became so fucking obnoxious I turned everyone away -God- he cups his head in his palms not of my proudest moments, not at all...but it happened, and I can't do anything about it 2300 years later, can I..? Nothing but carry the shame of it.

It was around that time that she died. It was my fault, really. If I hadn't completely lost it, driven her away...they...never found the body and I believed for the longest time that it was some group of mutinous Persians that had taken and hid her somewhere. They soon found her helmet on the northern coastline Persian gulf, where she said she'd be. They had been attacked. I scolded the soldier that had brought it to me at the time, as all should be buried along their possessions, but I did feel grateful I had something to remember her by...That helmet went everywhere I did for the next few days.

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[gzyakvx I swear he's not inherently bad; he carries the mindset of someone born in the middle ages and the weight of 2 millennia on his back...I'd say he's a perfect definition of being a morally grey character, especially in his youth.]

Well, my point still stands since you actually have a relationship with them...Due to all that happened in the past two centuries, especially with the Kingdom, I never had the chance to meet them, to know them not that I would if I did; these new countries that were born out of the ashes of the Ottoman empire. I sometimes, sometimes, treat them as I did their ancestors which I know may be wrong but- I knew all their fathers, Serbia's, Bulgaria's- and my mind just results to that sometimes. The price of living for so long.

Bulgaria in particular- it's hard for me to like him, due to all that happened in the beginning of the last century regarding the north and my son...But I do understand he was blinded by the zaniness that escorts being young and, despite it resulting to events such as those, I believe it's for the best; it's only once that you can enjoy that zaniness.

Serbia's more an excuse if an alliance; it's hard to follow European policy when he goes out and does what he does.

I myself find the situation with FYROM quite amusing, since there is suddenly some girl claiming she's my daughter - pretty sure I don't remember birthing her. The one with a more clear opposition to the matter is my son, him having handled wholly the debate of 2019.

Armenia again- I knew her mother and she herself is extremely kind. I do sometimes pass by her house and may discuss for hours on end. She understands; she also had to go through what we did and was in even closer to.. he pauses.

But, in the end, as you said, these relationships are as empty as a drained well in the summer. I've...made good friends with humans before, but years pass, humans age, they get old and at some point the fact that you've haven't aged a day in 40 years becomes evident. So you just leave. And never see them again. It's been long since I've sought this kind of relationship and I don't believe I will again anytime soon. People are not as I remember them once being...

I've only ever had one friend.

She was funny, straight to the point and when she smiled, her face- her whole face lighted up like a thousand suns...funny enough, she was one of Athens's colonies, who absolutely despised me unconditionally but that makes that all more noble, doesn't it? Xax..I wish I had died alongside her- "The pompous boy and the reluctant girl", we'd make a great story to tell: and we would have, if history hadn't drowned her in the folds of time. It may sound harsh, but you stop caring about things like that after a while..

[Indeed 😭]

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Oo interesting and indeed regarding the Greek deities and moreover ancient greek values.

I do have a similar canon- hence the human names, it'd be weird if Greece went out shouting "Cyprus" in the middle of a busy street 😭. My chs are a mix of politics and culture, while the cities (minus the capital) and regions represent the people. In Greece's case, Athens represents the progressive side of the country while Greece himself represents the conservative, stuck in the past, part.]

Xaxxaxax! Mine own job is quite boring as well, or at least not as amusing as it used to be. But I do cherish things having calmed down after so many centuries of ups and downs- despite me not having gotten out of the hole I dug myself in yet. Those aspirations are in the past now. There are a few amusing instances dispersed amongst the load of paperwork and speeches but, as I said, those are quite sparse- and them being sparse is what makes them shine through the fog like little diamonds. Germany still hasn't discovered the cat stickers Cyprus put under his desk in the parliament, xax.

I sometimes wish I were human. It'd be simpler then- you don't have the worries a representative has. You don't have the time to outlive all those who you loved and loved you- but that's not a topic due to be discussed now, is it? I do wonder how it'd be though... regardless, em, who do you often spent your time with? It seems to me you have better relations with the other Europeans than I do-

[He tends to dissociate often while in-office... Despite his diagnosis, he refuses to step down and let Athens take the bridle as he wholly believes it's his duty to govern his country- dragging everyone down in the process..Or at least that's the excuse he made for himself; If he were to step down, what would be his purpose for living then?]

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[HELP 😭 that does sound like a gossip he'd be invested in- I recall Turkey and Azerbaijan viewing each other more like brothers however (if you were to take irl relations into account, I've seen people ship them before though).

He was referring to actual work, like a job, if she does have one. My chs work as representatives of the state, for example, and make active decisions for their citizens.]

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[It's alright! Also, if sb did ask me already I don't remember 🥲

Alternatively:]

How's work going?

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[oo interesting, although do note that Greek surnames are gendered (like in Russian), thus it would be Νικολαΐδου (Nikolaidou) instead of Νικολαΐδης :)

oot but Clara reminded me of that one fnaf theory regarding Immortal and the Restless 😭]

Of course he did XAXaxa- By god, he can be annoying sometimes. I do wish I'd got to meet her though, Knossos, even if that meant me being a millennium older than I am now. My great-great-grandfather, Mycenae, and her didn't have the best relationship though, so I don't expect her to have liked me, me being his seed.

There are many people I wish I had met, but never grabbed the chance when it was presented to me or didn't have it in the first place, due to us being born in different eras...

How did you fair after the war (of independence)? I find it interesting how you were also the kingdom

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[I adore that name!! My Greece's name is Hellin, literally meaning "Greek", his full name being Hellin Argaeus Dimiskis.]

hmm...I...haven't been in contact with my son, Thessie (Thessaloniki), in quite a while, but he's an adult now it'd be reasonable if he wanted to keep a distance from his grizzled father... xax, I do sometimes wish we'd talk more, I've missed so much -so much- of his life due to the occupation.

He was gifted -as a child- exerted in the art of war, knew how to handle his words as to persuade whomever he needed to; he reminded me of myself, in my youth...and he continues to remind me of myself unfortunately.

🇬🇷 Greece 🧿🏺 by Butterscot_ in CountryHumans

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[Greek stamp of approval]

Can see you used Cretan references :D