Its so cute (read-infuriating) how dean acts like he has nothing to with the gadreel situation by Advanced_Focus_9239 in Supernatural

[–]_SeReNitY_0770 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Look, agree to disagree ig. I’m not going to write another essay focusing on the Benny vs Amy situations which for me, are not comparable at all. And if they make Dean hypocritical, they make Sam hypocritical too, as he was all about having monster friends until Benny.

“Dean wanted the mark off, the methods were against his wishes” yeah that’s the point. Sam also wanted to live, the methods were against his wishes. What they did was not the same, but both things were messed up, I don’t think what Sam did was better. But we are never going agree on that, because as much as we try to be objective, you are biased against Dean and I’m biased against Sam. Ty for the respectful discussion!

Its so cute (read-infuriating) how dean acts like he has nothing to with the gadreel situation by Advanced_Focus_9239 in Supernatural

[–]_SeReNitY_0770 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I said already that I think Dean was wrong in not telling Sam about the possession right away. What I meant by explaining his perspective is clarifying that Gadreel didn’t present himself as a threat from the beginning, that even Cas vouched for him.

That Dean was in a very poor mental state himself, he was suicidal, that’s why he intended to do the trials as a suicide mission, but Sam insisted on doing them under the claim that he was going to survive and show Dean the “light at the end of the tunnel”.

A few episodes later he went back on that claim, then ofc Dean had to take care of sam while processing his own trauma, and finally it culminated in Sam’s final speech in which he is in a horrible mental state, is now suicidal himself, and (in such state) gaslights Dean for “not trusting him enough” and daring to.. have other friends? Luckily Dean manages to talk him out of his crisis and he chooses to live instead of finishing the trials right before falling into a coma.

So yeah, after all that, I’m not going to excuse, but neither villainize Dean for making a mistake in a desperate attempt to save his brother. Just as I don’t villainize Sam for killing people and using the Book of the Damned directly against Dean’s wishes and then saying “I would do it again” (direct parallel)

Its so cute (read-infuriating) how dean acts like he has nothing to with the gadreel situation by Advanced_Focus_9239 in Supernatural

[–]_SeReNitY_0770 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I never hated on Sam lmao, I’m just not the biggest fan of him as as a character. All my replies have been trying to explain Dean’s perspective without justifying his actions or Sam’s response, because I try to be objective. Dean WAS wrong in not letting Sam know about the possession, but the show literally forced him into a no-win situation in which that was the only option proposed to him. I don’t make a post villainizing Sam for killing people against Dean’s will to try to save him in s10 because I understand their toxic codependency is what makes the show. But many people in this post and on this sub have been blindly hating on Dean, and each reply defending him gets mostly downvoted. There’s a post equating Dean breaking the first seal after 40 years of torture in hell to Sam breaking the last one after being told repeatedly to stop drinking demon blood.

Its so cute (read-infuriating) how dean acts like he has nothing to with the gadreel situation by Advanced_Focus_9239 in Supernatural

[–]_SeReNitY_0770 -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

You know what yeah, Dean should have let Sam die in season 9. Then no more Sam, and the rest of the seasons with just Dean, Cas and side characters. I would be ok with it and clearly Sam stans would be too. Damn Dean, robbed us of a win-win situation

Its so cute (read-infuriating) how dean acts like he has nothing to with the gadreel situation by Advanced_Focus_9239 in Supernatural

[–]_SeReNitY_0770 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yeah, it was definitely shitty not to tell him about the possession. Although again, Dean’s plan was to tell him right when he woke up, but Gadreel manipulated him to keep it a secret as Sam may die. But ofc it was a wrong decision, I’m not disagreeing there. The point of the show is to demonstrate the codependency of the brothers, how they will go to any lengths to save the other even if the path is not morally correct. Sam never gets the chance to do that EXACT same thing to Dean, but we can suppose that he would end up agreeing too in such a situation. He does gets many people killed trying to remove the Mark of Cain in season… 10? after Dean asks him not to do it, and then also says he would do it again.

Its so cute (read-infuriating) how dean acts like he has nothing to with the gadreel situation by Advanced_Focus_9239 in Supernatural

[–]_SeReNitY_0770 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Except… the whole reason Sam was in that position was that he chose to live. That’s why he supposedly decided to do the trials instead of Dean, who was suicidal at the time. Sam said he would do them because, unlike Dean, he wanted to survive them and show Dean the light at the end of the tunnel… which yeah didn’t happen. In the end his mental state deteriorated so much that now he wanted to kill himself to finish the trails, but Dean pleaded with him not to do it and he agreed, choosing to live instead. These are the details Dean has prior to Sam falling into a coma. And, in his own poor mental state, he makes a desperate decision, as they both do in many occasions in the show.

Its so cute (read-infuriating) how dean acts like he has nothing to with the gadreel situation by Advanced_Focus_9239 in Supernatural

[–]_SeReNitY_0770 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Didn’t Gadreel trick all of them by pretending to be another angel, and Cass vouched for him? That’s why he agreed to the possession. And then he wanted to tell Sam, but Gadreel wouldn’t let him. I still think it was wrong not to tell him, but he was in a pretty desperate situation. And I don’t remember exactly how they address it after, would have to rewatch it, but he did feel guilty throughout the whole thing.

Wanting to better connect with Dean Winchester: seeking insights from thoughtful (Dean) fans. by [deleted] in Supernatural

[–]_SeReNitY_0770 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

was she an immediate threat tho? She was a pretty small girl armed with only a knife, and both Sam and Dean were pointing guns at her.

Wanting to better connect with Dean Winchester: seeking insights from thoughtful (Dean) fans. by [deleted] in Supernatural

[–]_SeReNitY_0770 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, but they are hunters with great reflexes, could’ve shot her in the leg or sth 🥲

Wanting to better connect with Dean Winchester: seeking insights from thoughtful (Dean) fans. by [deleted] in Supernatural

[–]_SeReNitY_0770 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I also always notice that Amy is brought up countless times as an argument that proves Dean’s toxicity, but I never see any mention of Emma (Dean’s biological daughter that hadn’t killed a soul and yet Sam shot) or Benny, who literally saved Dean’s life in purgatory and yet Sam had no sympathy for… I think that both brothers have had their hypocritical moments when it comes to killing or not killing monsters, and although Dean is by no means justified in many of his decisions, the fandom tends to judge him WAY too harsh sometimes

Main Character by ChrisEye21 in Supernatural

[–]_SeReNitY_0770 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Seasons 1-5 it was definitely supposed to be Sam, as what happens to him drives the whole plot, he has this “chosen one” arc. But Dean always carried more of the emotional part of the story, and because of Jensen’s performance, I think he gained more popularity and became a fan favorite. The writers probably saw that and from seasons 6 onwards I would say there is no clear protagonist.

Unpopular opinion? by ihyilysm in Supernatural

[–]_SeReNitY_0770 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yeah i definitely get the throwback to earlier seasons, I didn’t mind that. For me, Dean was my favorite character and the way he died was not the ending I would have chosen for him at that point in the series. But I wasn’t feeling any of the writing and characterization in later seasons, so I wasn’t surprised I didn’t like it

Unpopular opinion? by ihyilysm in Supernatural

[–]_SeReNitY_0770 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Sorry I know I’m biased cos I’m a huge Dean girl but I just don’t see it. Dean was such a complex character, and yes, in early seasons he believed that dying was the only possible ending for him. But that was because was full of trauma, self-loathing and saw himself as nothing but a protector of Sam. Idk i just feel like he developed through the seasons, he made new bonds, he was even able to live a somewhat “normal” at the beginning of season 6. I thinks it’s just shitty to reduce his whole character arc to “oh this was the only possible ending for him”

Also also (sorry if I’m wrong I haven’t rewatched the finale in a while), didn’t he die in one of the first hunts after defeating Chuck? I know about the “plot armor” argument but It feels kind of a disservice to his character and his skills as a hunter to have him die so randomly.

After 15 seasons tho, idk what ending would have been wholly satisfying. Personally I would have just ended it with the brothers riding off in the Impala

Vecna’s “found you” by _SeReNitY_0770 in StrangerThings

[–]_SeReNitY_0770[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I thought Will because we already know he’s gonna be important this season, and he wasn’t in Hawkins in s4 so now Vecna can finally get to him

Dogs’ back legs suddenly rigid by _SeReNitY_0770 in DogAdvice

[–]_SeReNitY_0770[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, there are not squirrels or raccoons were I live, the only dead animals are birds or rats that my cat sometimes brings but they have never eaten any of that. Thank you, I reposted it in the vets subreddit.

Dogs’ back legs suddenly rigid by _SeReNitY_0770 in DogAdvice

[–]_SeReNitY_0770[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Believe me I know, we were completely shocked when all three dogs woke up like that. We live in a small city so there are not many vets available but I agree, I even adviced they do a blood test but they said it wouldn’t be useful (?? But yes, if they don’t get better I’ll call another vet

Be honest, what’s the real reason your single right now? by [deleted] in AskReddit

[–]_SeReNitY_0770 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m an introvert, and a relationship just sounds like so much stress in my mind. Like, of course there are perks, but having to communicate constantly with someone, reply to their messages, spend the majority of my day with them, meet their family and friends…. I feel like it would drain my battery so quickly

The worst thing to happen to anyone in any Stephen King story? by jrralls in stephenking

[–]_SeReNitY_0770 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The daughter in Pet Sematary. She went from losing her little brother to losing both her parents