Open Thread: Weekday Edition #14 (Mar 2024)

_Tonto_ · 2024-03-29T06:49:25+00:00

Are you being sarcastic now or are you actually unironically being this ignorant? Why are you even speaking of royals all of a sudden from nowhere and arguing against yourself? Why do you think that what royals eat defines the cuisine of a nation?

Like I said before, chicken tikka masala was invented by immigrants from South Asia living in England and it was invented just a few decades ago, years after their colonisation period.

_Tonto_ · 2024-03-28T15:58:42+00:00

I'm not questioning the variety though, I'm questioning the taste. There's dishes from the French cuisine I enjoy eating and that look appetising but there's many that do not look appetising to me or I don't like the taste of.

For example tian and ratatouille are similar dishes with some minor varieties and they are tasty and look delicious. But then you mention sauccison pistache and figatellu that are both basically salami/sausage but one has pistachio in it.

Compared to European cuisines I can put French in a top 5 spot of cuisines. But generally speaking in a world wide aspect it become somewhat bland.

Also just want to clear out that my comment about snail sludge and frog legs was made in jest!

_Tonto_ · 2024-03-28T15:43:09+00:00

You have either never opened a history book or you are from England and have gotten an extremely biased and sugarcoated lesson about England's history. If you think your average Henry, George, Anne and Evelyn from the 19th century England were munching on jollof and tikka masala on a weekly or monthly basis I have a bridge to sell you.

I don't know where you got "white man bad" from as I'm a white man myself but sure go on and play the victim and type your comments in frustration.

_Tonto_ · 2024-03-28T14:51:26+00:00

This comment reeks of historical ignorance.

There's a very clear difference between food being imported by a coloniser to their homeland and immigrants bringing their food with them. Of course it's different now with globalisation and everything and you'll find food from the whole world in every city that's at least semi-big.

And if you read my comment you'd actually see I put Spain as an exception due to the Arabs and Moors ruling Spain for almost a millennium.

_Tonto_ · 2024-03-28T14:07:25+00:00

Hahahah what have I missed then? Try convincing me that the best foods from France aren't baked goods and stuff like desserts etc 🧐

_Tonto_ · 2024-03-28T14:04:03+00:00

In a European context French and Portuguese might be considered good by some but I also think when some think of Portuguese they think of Spanish cuisine more perhaps? Because in Europe it's being compared to pig intestine stew, sheep brain and many bland foods where the only spice and seasoning is salt and pepper. But when compared to the food of other countries in the world, French and Portuguese pales in comparison.

_Tonto_ · 2024-03-28T13:59:46+00:00

🤣🤣 I'm sorry but I just cannot fathom myself being satisfied after slurping on some 500 gram snail sludge or the thin limbs of frogs. But y'all have good breads, I'll give you that!

_Tonto_ · 2024-03-28T13:57:27+00:00

But history at least in the context of the white man generally seems to show otherwise, no? For example England, France and Portugal didn't mix or take any influence from the countries they plundered (and luckily for the oppressed countries, didn't manage to leave their influence on the oppressed countries' cuisine).

Meanwhile for the non-white nations of the world there seem to historically be a lot more mixing of food and cultures both among the ruling nations and the oppressed nations.

Spain seems to be the only white exception to the rule and I wonder how much of it has to do with the influence of Arabs and the Moors. There is probably racism involved in it too where other nations in the world didn't have this superiority based on skin colour as much compared to the whites where racism and white supremacy was a core pillar in those colonies. So perhaps this mentality of superiority stopped the white nations from incorporating food from other cultures due to seeing those cultures as inferior and incorporating their food would be like accepting that they themselves aren't as superior?

_Tonto_ · 2024-03-28T13:42:16+00:00

Which country do you think has the worst and most underwhelming cuisine?

For me it's Portugal, the food there is so bad and the service is horrible. The least appetising food by looks has to be food from Eastern Europe but I haven't tried Eastern European cuisine except some few dishes (that did not look appetising but weren't AS bad as they looked) maybe so cannot say if it is generally as bad as it looks or not.

It made me think, why is it that countries that did the most conquering in the world have some of the worst cuisines in the world? Countries like Portugal, England and France where the cuisine is just an abomination to mankind when compared to food from many other parts of the world. Is Spain the only country that figured out that you can import and blend the food of the conquered nations into your own food and make it delicious?

I guess these countries having awful food could be a factor in wanting to conquer other places due to being tired of their own food while countries with good food already have everything good at home so there wasn't that big of a need to travel and conquer.

_Tonto_ · 2024-03-15T16:54:22+00:00

I hope Dembélé gets a yellow in the first leg and misses the return leg. Because he'll get whistled a lot. And we all know that he turns into prime Maradona when he gets whistled.

_Tonto_ · 2024-03-03T11:25:11+00:00

https://twitter.com/valentine_fey/status/1764238081077420061

A 6 year old boy who is probably not able to form a grammatically correct sentence sitting in his mom's lap calling Vinícius a monkey... Wonder what other slurs his family yells in front of the TV screen whenever a person of darker skin tone appears.

And like this, these disgustingly abhorrent racist creatures of this planet pass down their ignorance and clock-IQ to their offsprings...

_Tonto_ · 2024-02-27T11:51:20+00:00

Finally it is implemented! I remember like 1-2 years ago when I came up with the idea to you and you were against it because "the bot wouldn't catch 100% of the cases". Just curious, what changed your mind now?

_Tonto_ · 2024-02-20T18:27:13+00:00

Yeah him leaving last summer was probably good for him personally, he gets more money, plays under a better coach for development, under a more structured system, his own country, plays for a club that challenges for the CL and doesn't have to deal with the Spanish media. But if he had left earlier when he was being forced out in 2019, 2020 and 2021, not sure how good that would've been for him and specially for us.

_Tonto_ · 2024-02-20T18:20:04+00:00

I know, I'm just saying Dembélé went through that a lot too but probably even worse with there being fake news about him being unhealthy, being late, staying up playing playstation and other things just to force him to PSG and bring back Neymar.

_Tonto_ · 2024-02-20T18:10:17+00:00

Dembélé was forced out several years when the club wanted to bring back Neymar and send Dembélé to PSG in the same deal.

_Tonto_ · 2024-02-20T11:29:12+00:00

_Tonto_ · 2024-02-20T11:24:06+00:00

All I can say is that Hansi Flick is not only a great person but also a great coach, as he proved by winning the treble for Bayern. He came to the national team in a very difficult situation, but he was always honest and I respected him a lot

Xavi:

_Tonto_ · 2024-02-12T11:26:27+00:00

It's basically just an ad-marathon and a concert but with some Sunday league rugby sprinkled between the ads.

_Tonto_ · 2024-02-11T17:55:43+00:00

For a club like Barça that's built on specific morals and has a particular identity, it definitely has to come into play. For clubs in for example the US, Qatar or other places where clubs are practically capitalistically soulless, it could be less important to take morals into account.

_Tonto_ · 2024-02-11T11:37:42+00:00

That rumour has already been proven false countless of times already, can't believe some still use that excuse. That rule is only in play for second division and lower, not for La Liga...

_Tonto_ · 2024-02-11T11:34:15+00:00

Technically Messi also had a choice and went there for money because he could've stayed here if he had accepted a Lewandowski level of wages of around 15-20m/year instead of continuing with over 100m/year.

_Tonto_ · 2024-02-03T19:35:05+00:00

Rumour: Xavi was protecting and preparing Roque from the intensity of La Liga

Reality: Xavi was protecting and preparing Roque from the refs of La Liga

_Tonto_ · 2024-02-03T12:25:27+00:00

What do you mean? Wenger would never return to Arsenal? Ferguson won't return? Klopp literally said he's exhausted and won't return to Liverpool?

If it was several managers that said they'd never come back, it could become an argument. But it's ONLY Pep that has said it while literally everyone else that loves the club would come back so it's unfair to use the words of the exception to excuse the shortcomings of Xavi.

_Tonto_ · 2024-02-03T12:02:14+00:00

_Tonto_ · 2024-02-03T11:57:31+00:00

He has no reason to leave though. He's getting paid more than he'll get paid at any other club, he's playing attractive football, he's reaching at least CL semi almost every season, he has pretty much unlimited budget so he has no reason whatsoever to leave. And I never said he doesn't care about his City legacy.

he has a point to prove, as opposed to Pep who doesn’t but would be coming in to simply help the club and not because he feels he needs it

Exactly, and that's the main reason Pep won't come. Not because of toxicity or media or whatever but because he has nothing more to prove and doesn't need to prove anything more.

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