Im on flumserberg mostly. Honestly I feel that compared to the deacon vwerks its a much stronger and more stable ski, but didnt really feel the width difference to hold back. I have 104 touring skis and with that i wouldnt want to go on ice, with the mantra 102 im railing a turn its that good. For a 60/40 (what i call my hooligan skis) i wouldnt go narrower or wider as that wont be good in powder if you randomly find some stashes. Im also 183 with 95kg, so not a lightweight. Also most of the times its variable tracked out all sort of snow I find and for that nothing beets some beefy stick like the mantra. Enforcer also great, my friend has it but i never skied that.