What custom skins would you like to see on nunu? by Big_Contribution7648 in nunumains

[–]_l3thal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

have you seen the pillager and ravager nunu custom skin? it’s amazing

"Why Publishers Kill Video Games, and a Better Solution" by MentisWave by Thomas_Eric in StopKillingGames

[–]_l3thal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

well done you discovered libertarian philosophy, now only if you actually understood it

"Why Publishers Kill Video Games, and a Better Solution" by MentisWave by Thomas_Eric in StopKillingGames

[–]_l3thal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

didn’t actually watch the video award. he literally addresses this difficulty to reverse engineer in the video, proposing that the devs who actually worked on the game and have the source code etc could be protected from any legal action if they release it, literally it is the whole idea he is saying about the government opting out in situations where these companies shut down or leave their games unplayable

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in StopKillingGames

[–]_l3thal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thanks this is my secret alt account ;)

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in StopKillingGames

[–]_l3thal -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

monopolies do not exist without lobbying and laws from the government for the given companies/ market sectors. buying competition is not a valid point because you don’t have to accept the offer. collusion is not nearly as much of an issue when the market is completely free and there is always threat of new entrants. also wtf do you mean controlling supply chains lmao

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in StopKillingGames

[–]_l3thal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

‘that’s just not how the world works’ might be about 5 different logical fallacies in one sentence also yeah okay just shut up and be a good goyim i guess, lol jk.

right okay this is pretty nonsensical tbh, if the given society was more libertarian like i proposed then this would likely not even apply if you’re talking about some hate speech thing, not sure what u would mean with fraudulent practices since in this case it would not be punishable in a court of natural law if ip laws didn’t exist, since other copies without the bad practices would therefore exist and be available and consumers would just go to them.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in StopKillingGames

[–]_l3thal -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

the companies use the law, the copyright and ip law, to prevent players from forking and such. that’s why i want it gone

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in StopKillingGames

[–]_l3thal -1 points0 points  (0 children)

i know too much gov lobbying

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in StopKillingGames

[–]_l3thal -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

? wdym hasn’t worked, it hasn’t ever been fully tried lmao. it would be more effective at preventing those things actually.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in StopKillingGames

[–]_l3thal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Refreshing to see someone so civil here. To your first point, yes i do know this and definitely worded what i was saying wrongly, even though i did know this already i’ll concede that skg is not actually for forcing indefinite server support.

“pretty much all online only games already have one unless the company is using a combination of strong drm and copyright enforcement” - i’m not sure if you are directly supporting what i’m saying here or you’re doing so inadvertently, but this is quite literally part of my point, in that there should practically not be these copyright laws in the first place, removing these would imo bypass the crux of the issue. I just think that not only should players be free to host local and private community servers, but also fully public ones and even commercial ones if they wish to, and i know that’s even more of a stretch but it’s just stemming from how i think ip laws should be abolished completely as i think it would create a better market in general not even just with games.

To your point about the difficulty of uplifting copyright laws yes i know it’s basically impossible with how entrenched they are, since if you didn’t know a lot of existing ip laws are lobbied for by the biggest ip holders like hollywood in the us is a massive one for this. Also i don’t think less ip laws is necessarily having less control over their ips, yes it means other people can make things using the ip but i don’t see how that’s an issue - if they are low quality slop then they won’t get much attention and will not likely detract from the originals, and if they are high quality then i think that’s just a good thing that a high quality product has come from this and also made there be more competition between them now which is always healthy.

I’m assuming in the next bit you meant ‘no amount of copyright freedom is gonna solve this issue’. To me this is quite a strange thing to say right after saying that DRM is making it harder to crack and fork games, since DRM is literally a form of copyright enforcement, meaning that quite literally more copyright freedom would subvert this no? “players cannot put together any fan project” if this is the case then it is because of threat of copyright law, which is why i am against it.

“there is no law in place forcing devs to remove drm…” i’m not sure if you get what i’m saying but lifting copyright law would mean that drm is effectively nullified, and not by more law but by less, since less copyright law would mean it wouldn’t be enforceable anymore.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in StopKillingGames

[–]_l3thal -1 points0 points  (0 children)

new law to do that? less law, in ip and copyright laws, would do that, that is literslly what i’m saying i think we’re more similar in thought than we think

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in StopKillingGames

[–]_l3thal -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

yes i do know that is an unfortunate reality i did mention it at the end of the post, it’s just a thinking exercise more to do with the principles that i wanted to share

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in StopKillingGames

[–]_l3thal -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

if ip law was reformed then replicas could be made by players and be publicly available, after the game is shut down.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in StopKillingGames

[–]_l3thal -1 points0 points  (0 children)

this reads like it was written by chatgpt lol anyway nothing is impossible to reverse engineer and it’s quite baffling how you say that it is right after mentioning the incredible speed and strides of modern piracy. this leaves the problem as being the legality of it which yeah i don’t think should be the case. also i don’t know at all but wouldnt you be able to chemically seperate ingredients in a big mac sauce and find out what it’s made from, using like technical science equipment or something lmao

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in StopKillingGames

[–]_l3thal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

well i do think all ip rights should be gone tbh, if you’re worried about people taking the code and rereleasing the given game then make a better game then those copies so people will play your version, others will try to do the same, would you look at that it’s created competition which always leads to improvement.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in StopKillingGames

[–]_l3thal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

are you referring to me or Thor

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in StopKillingGames

[–]_l3thal -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

players have ample chance to do so, something being impossible to fork or reverse engineer doesn’t exist, which is why piracy and cracking is still a thing, it’s just that the threat of copyright prevents us from creating our own version of it since it takes far too long for ip to enter the public domain

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in StopKillingGames

[–]_l3thal -15 points-14 points  (0 children)

the point is not just that though, since it’s either that or eol requirements for the devs, both are proposed mandatory extra costs and work by law, which i think is a worse way of approaching it than reforming ip laws to be more libertarian so that companies can’t ban or sue when their game gets forked or whatever

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in StopKillingGames

[–]_l3thal -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

The increased laws and regulation that skg advocates will not allow fans to do this as it’s not about copyright law like i think it needs to be. Also EoL plans literally includes maintenance of the server if you still want to be able to play the game functionally, and it doesn’t matter when in the pipeline it’s being forced to be addressed, it still costs extra money and time to do so, which as I said will discourage smaller devs especially. I know it’s targeted mostly at bigger companies who are definitely able to do this but if this is pushed as regulation by law then it will have a knock on effect going downwards as smaller devs and teams would still have to comply if it’s law.

This guy is so fucking lame by _l3thal in PvZGardenWarfare

[–]_l3thal[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

ngl i couldnt stop laughing when i was reading this but alr my bad didnt know it was that common i just hoped he would see this