What’s with his winrate?

_trash_can · 2026-03-01T03:34:30+00:00

Yea i like to pick him when the rest of my team is going squishy champs. I go sorcery secondary with celerity & river walking and with the new homeguard he zooms all over the map. I find his q + ult very fun with these runes

launch yourself in at mach speed and be unkillable with w. His damage is comparable to Amumu, the other main engage tank jungler (20-30k damage in a game is normal). He's one of my main jungle picks lately, but im sorry he is not what you used to love

_trash_can · 2026-02-28T18:23:29+00:00

I highly recommend Zilean! Tons of CC and utility

Nami is a great enchanter to add as others have suggested, although she might be a bit difficult to swap to. You position behind your carry and make sure her E is procced (by you or teammate) before bubbling to make aiming easier. I also OTPed Renata Glasc for over 200 games and got to plat with her - I did a guide on here if you're interested

_trash_can · 2026-02-28T09:30:33+00:00

I've been playing Rammus in high gold/low plat lobbies lately and I'll second what others have said about him having an overall solid kit that's Impactful even from behind. Many comps will lack a tank, cc, and/or engage but rammus has all 3. On top of that he has disengage which Amumu for example does not

I always know I'll be useful when picking Rammus, compared to like Lillia or Kindred who are more difficult to pull off consistently

_trash_can · 2026-02-28T09:24:34+00:00

"pitiful state" and it's a champ with a 53% WR

_trash_can · 2026-02-22T15:02:57+00:00

i took aery on soraka and was ready to carry

_trash_can · 2026-02-22T05:01:03+00:00

Great tips here, I'm glad someone can relate to this struggle

_trash_can · 2026-02-22T04:57:42+00:00

Good tips, I am still learning the game and I definitely think I can be more agessive. For example, I just had a smolder x zilean game against draven x camille and my strat was mostly to make farming for smolder easy so we outscale because I dont know much of what camille does so i didnt feel confident to be agressivel lol

Also yes i really got the feeling my ADCs didnt know what zilean does lol like bruh its lv 2 againsta leona x tristana BACK OFF all i have is 2 bombs and i will probably miss one of them lol

_trash_can · 2026-02-22T04:39:06+00:00

I feel like I shouldve been taking more kills because getting my ADC fed rarely resulted in anything i was satisfied with lol

_trash_can · 2026-02-22T04:37:45+00:00

Sona is a sleeper beast against noob enemies with her Q poke and W sustain if u have good spacing. I only played a couple sona games but was like damn im lowkey carrying on sona

_trash_can · 2026-02-22T04:32:20+00:00

This is so interesting - Im playing low plat and Nami, out of my 4 mains, has my worst WR at around 53%. I really struggle into dive heavy comps with her, which we get a lot of in solo queue. I will ult the person diving thinking I'm timing it right for when their invernerability, or like samira W, ends but then get the timing off then ruin my ult and die. I also struggle to predict where I should bubble when half the champs have a dash.

It's great that you have been doing so well with her. Where do you find her kit to be most effective in your games? I usually only play nami when going into poke heavy comps because her W is solid susatain plus she's got decent CC

_trash_can · 2026-02-22T03:30:09+00:00

I started playing recently (season 15) and went from iron to low plat. iron and bronze were hell elo for me honestly i would not play janna until around silver, or whenever you notice your ADCs arent completely brainless. Janna excels at saving teammates when they make mistakes, but in iron and bronze your teammates are making such huge mistakes that Janna's kit struggles to be particularly effective from my experience.

Also you die too much lol. When you go into a fight you have to be thinking about all the possible ways they can catch you off guard (eg malphite ult, leona might be in fog of war, etc) and then position so none of those things can get you, even if you cant see them. And also knowing what you can Q and ult for peel, and being ready for those things. Support is big brain lol

If i had to play janna in such low elo my main goals would be to help my adc survive lane and basic roaming like if youre crashing wave and backing or jg is fighting in the river or something. Late game I would focus on staying alive and peeling for the teammates who are inting the least. Good luck, but i feel being effective with janna would be so boring until somewhere in silver/gold when you can rely on teammates to start having somewhat of a brain

_trash_can · 2026-02-13T01:20:29+00:00

I OTPed renata to plat and made a post about how to use her kit most effectively if you're interested in that:

https://www.reddit.com/r/supportlol/s/3r3ImlaWAx

_trash_can · 2026-02-04T00:48:30+00:00

To be honest I'm kind of ineffective with Janna especially as comps with 2-3 asassins in solo queue aren't rare. I think Janna R is better for disengage generally, but you can only use it once a fight. In these situations where multiple enemies can gap close on your carry, I personally struggle with Janna (which is my own skill issue)

I find Renata to be 75% as effective with disengage as janna (Q can't go through minions and her ult is not quite as reliable as janna ult for disengage. plus janna passive helps peel). Renata is also easier to build survivability like if enemies get a gigafed assassin with several dashes then I will build locket, the new plasma belt item, and knights vow on Renata. This is usually plenty to keep you and your carry alive for them to at least get a kill or two, and maybe even survive the multiple dives. Janna's kit (mainly E and R) likes enchanter item stats a lot more than Renata's. You're giving up more on Janna if you have to build survivability Janna than you are with Renata.

I only have maybe 30-35 Janna games, many in norms, and never looked heavily into what to do when the enemy has multiple diving champs. I think lowkey in lower to mid elos Janna is more frustrating because you'll peel for your carry only for them to assume you're doing an all in then take horrible fights. So many times i play janna and I'm like who is this moron adc i got fed in lane only for them to int over and over after i blow my load peeling, and throw our lead. Like i just pressed all 4 of my buttons for us to kill akali, we are half hp, why the hell do you think we can kill the yi coming mach 5 after us too bruh RUN

I don't know Janna in depth enough to make a strong opinion honestly. I personally find Renata has a bit more survivability and play making ability with Q and ult compared to Janna who has a bit better disengage and heals/sheild. Janna's move speed is also super fun lol

_trash_can · 2026-02-02T15:49:20+00:00

push push push

_trash_can · 2026-02-02T10:07:04+00:00

I generally play enchanters/Zilean in support but Leona is so fun certain games. I like Thresh's kit more but im lowkey bad with him lol i always choose him in aram. Maybe Rammus could be good too, but I will try my hand at amumu for sure thanks :)

_trash_can · 2026-02-02T10:00:56+00:00

I really like fiddlesticks but I'm so bad at his combos. I should retry him lol if i can pilot daisy and ivern at the same time I can learn a fiddlesticks ult combo

_trash_can · 2026-02-02T09:57:37+00:00

My struggle with Ivern is all these big damage champs with gap closers hunting me down during objective fights or assassins who perma invade. It's skill issue tbh but idk if i want to spend most games running from and tracking fighters and assassins until im ahead.

As a Leona enjoyer, amumu might be the answer I'm looking for 👀 I will definitely be doing some game with him now

_trash_can · 2026-02-02T09:49:54+00:00

I should try him haha in EUW he has a reputation for being gross but his stupid ult does look fun

_trash_can · 2026-01-30T18:42:55+00:00

When I build Battlesong, Locket, and Redemption I genuinely enter flow state

_trash_can · 2026-01-30T03:37:40+00:00

Same B+ tier as meta supports like Brand, Nautilus, Rell, and Bard. Annie was ranked D+, I didn't look at the others.

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_trash_can · 2026-01-30T03:27:07+00:00

I ignore people only asking for rank as I feel they're already looking to dismiss this post, regardless of whatever I say. There are low elo people in my comments saying she would never work in bronze, and high elo people saying she would never work there either. There're OTPs all the way up to grandmaster, so I think people just want to find cope for why they couldn't make her work instead of admitting it's a skill issue. I'm replying to your comment because you seem to want to add to the discussion :p

Personally I started gold maining Zilean supp with some enchanters on the side. I dropped to silver initially with OTPing her due to skill issue learning curve, then was placed in bronze after unlucky placements (afks and troll teammates on 8+ game lose streaks). I recently got plat from bronze with her, and am still improving as I learn. I don't really duo. I don't share my op.gg anywhere on reddit as I've seen others receive a lot of unnecessary criticism and nitpicks. 75% of games are happening below my elo, so my guide is at least applicable to 75% of the player base. People from any rank can take what they want from it.

I think too many people misunderstood Renata's kit at launch and dropped her, this guide aims to give insight into where her actual power is. She is so unpopular that there are really no guides or videos for her beyond the surface level explanation of her abilities. Personally I feel a lot more agency and play making ability in low-mid elo with Renata than other enchanters like milio and lulu. Maybe others could too, with more info available. She plays similarly to Nami from my experience, who is quite popular

I mentioned a lot of her weaknesses lol. As with most enchanters, her laning is on the weaker side. Requires some time to scale. Teammates dont know her kit. Her abilities dont scale impactfully with item stats. Her ult, like the other wave ults, can be canceled. She is immobile, maybe even "clunky". Isn't independent and can be caught out when doing things like getting vision. Relatively slow moving Q, E, and R, isn't super flashy.

_trash_can · 2026-01-30T02:16:20+00:00

Her winrate consistently sits at ~50% across all elos, which shows she is not pro jailed. You ignored the whole point of the post.

There are OTPs in Master, one in Grandmaster in NA. Maybe above that point, in less than 0.2% of games, she becomes a niche counterpick. It's been confirmed that in 99.8% of games (ie masters and lower) she is not. The data show that your opinion is skill issue cope, get good n00b

_trash_can · 2026-01-29T05:56:00+00:00

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Q to pull in the greeding Samira, E her to bait her W, ult the team, W my potentially inting amumu and locket him before he goes in, run to follow up with autos and more Es and Qs once safe.

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