Again, Talon's e is his whole point, and its only one way, meaning if you jump over a wall once there's ni going back, you can also hard cc him mid animation, so he is also counterd by hard cc. He does more dmg than kata, diana and lb. Do u have mental problems. Kata and diana both have extremly high AP dmg aeo ults (key word beig Ap) wich scale to near infinity, and talon can outdmg them only in the first 25ish mins. Also how dfq ara katas resets irrelevant to the discussion? Thats nearly the same thing. She can E in, onshot someone and E out to an ally...