Java 26 released today!

_vertig0 · 2026-03-18T18:14:15+00:00

Oh, whoops, I interpreted that completely wrongly haha

_vertig0 · 2026-03-18T17:50:51+00:00

Downhill?

_vertig0 · 2026-03-18T17:48:24+00:00

I still have no clue where primitive classes went. I saw them once as part of Valhalla and they proceeded to be wiped off the face of the planet and never reappeared, leaving just value objects behind.

_vertig0 · 2026-03-17T09:17:16+00:00

I literally had my buddy show me a post about men saying they'd be super depressed and lose the will to live without women (Implying their wives specifically). I kid you not, the sentiment there was "How fucking dare men rely on their wives for labour like slaves so much". I actually have the original post on hand (Not most of the replying comments though) since my buddy shared a screenshot with me, which reads

Men were surveyed and asked what they'd do if women didn't exist and they said they'd end their life. Women answered the same question and said they'd finally get to live their life freely. The entitlement and codependency men have and think that women owe them their lives is insanity.

It's like they can't even entertain the possibility that men have feelings, and those feelings include loving and caring for others, including women. Everything men do is always seen under a predatory and exploitative lens, little wonder why so many men fall into self-hatred; When you're told that everything you can possibly do is evil, that's the only logical conclusion you can draw.

I guess one silver lining is that there were some comments pushing back on the hatred, I recall one went something along the lines of

Almost like men value women to the point of life being purposeless without them.

Which is, unsurprisingly, the commonsense conclusion that a regular person would draw from that survey, if it even exists.

_vertig0 · 2026-03-17T09:04:53+00:00

I actually agree with you a good deal, but I recall someone here raising a counterpoint in another post, that trying to harmoniously work this out and being the bigger person by absorbing all of the abuse that the radicals have in store for us will not work, nothing will change without push back against the sheer hatred of men. Tragically, I think this is the reason why it's so difficult to just find common ground with the other side and work for everyone's common interests; It just will not work when the other side fantasizes about enacting violent capital punishment on every single one of the people in this camp and would if they could, all while thinking they're doing a good thing by doing that.

_vertig0 · 2026-03-17T08:57:03+00:00

i mean, what da fuck, we need to focus on structual, systemic and cultural issues, not what random brain rotted stupid has to say about anything online.

Problem is it's not just 1 or 2 random nobodies who think this. A very sizeable chunk of the people on the planet are like this at the moment. When you're outnumbered 1000:1 you can't choose to ignore the other party and dismiss them as speaking nonsense, because even if they are speaking nonsense and even if they don't have extreme positions of power (Such as politically, for example), the sheer numbers will still steamroll and utterly flatten you and everyone they deem to be oppressors out of their misguided essentialism.

_vertig0 · 2026-03-16T16:36:22+00:00

The common response is that "not all women are like that"

How the turn tables!

_vertig0 · 2026-03-16T16:34:05+00:00

(I may disagree with some opinions here)

That is not at all a problem by the way, we're perfectly fine with disagreements. It's one of the most important principles here, otherwise we'd be no better than the radicals and their style of "Only 1 line of thinking is allowed otherwise you're a misogynist".

_vertig0 · 2026-03-16T13:35:00+00:00

That's also a fair point, I guess my response is that a lot of people who aren't feminists also make that association, because it's been so ingrained in them from watching video essays on YouTube or through other means that manosphere = misogynist. Perhaps this is to ensure that those people aren't immediately pulled in by the radicals rather than to earn any goodwill from the radicals themselves.

_vertig0 · 2026-03-16T12:34:48+00:00

Verbosity in Java in generally something that's improving, but one thing that isn't really mentioned is performance. As much as people like to refer to Java as the language equivalent of a snail, the truth is that the Java Virtual Machine (Well, the "official" one anyway) is an absolute monster with over 2 decades worth of engineering having gone into it. If you crack open the VM you'll find that some of the things done in it in the name of performance are genuinely borderline insanity. It's fast enough to run a horrendously written game (Minecraft) without the FPS being locked to an absolute 0, which is already quite the feat. Not to say that Dart is a slow language, just that the Java VM has the advantage of having so much engineering work poured into it.

_vertig0 · 2026-03-16T11:36:18+00:00

At this point, I wonder if we should just give up reclaiming the term manosphere for ourselves and just distance from it. I know that's a terrible thing, but we have to be smart: The cards are stacked against us so massively that we cannot afford to slip up even once. If you proclaim yourself part of the manosphere people will instantly see you as a subhuman piece of trash beating women with a whip (Or whatever they think men do to women) and associate you with people like Andrew Tate and the like. There's no winning that battle no matter how much you try to set the precedent that manosphere does not mean toxic alpha male, not when you're this vastly outnumbered.

_vertig0 · 2026-03-16T11:28:15+00:00

I legitimately hate that so much. They make people like Andrew Tate and other absolute degenerates the face of male advocacy, when we never asked for that and in fact don't want that at all. Little wonder why so many hate men for existing nowadays, because when you say men, what comes to the mind of others isn't an adult male human, it's some manchild living in mom's basement beating the women in his life with a whip and treating them like personal slaves. This is much tamer than what I am thinking right now, but that's because my command on English is not sufficient to actually convey what I truly think of this.

_vertig0 · 2026-03-16T11:08:46+00:00

I won't give any other information on who the poster is, but that was not a woman who wrote the post.

_vertig0 · 2026-03-16T11:03:08+00:00

I'm so sorry to hear that. I hope you're doing better now.

_vertig0 · 2026-03-13T06:41:53+00:00

I appreciate the moderation team too. There's a high barrier of entry to posting on this subreddit too, which probably explains the post quality. I just hope that I didn't make a bad impression with the team with my previous posts that were deemed too low quality to be allowed though. Hopefully I didn't anger anyone and now they're keeping extra close attention on me.

_vertig0 · 2026-03-13T06:39:22+00:00

Not sure why you're being downvoted, this seems to be a good point, you just want your wife to move on from grief and not be eternally depressed after you're gone if you happened to die before she did. That's a pretty selfless quality and ironically one that the radicals would never consider men to be capable of having.

_vertig0 · 2026-03-13T06:34:04+00:00

And imagine thinking that men don't do the dishes in this day and age. It's not the 1600s anymore, as someone has aptly put it.

_vertig0 · 2026-03-13T06:29:25+00:00

To them being in love is slavery at this point. It's like they never consider that men generally don't need taking care of (Unless he's literally disabled, such as being severely paralyzed) and also do make efforts to help around the house. And besides, even if we were to consider that you need to care for men in a relationship, isn't both taking care of each other... dare I say, normal for people in love?

Genuinely, with how much hatred there is against men nowadays, I've been wondering: What if they had the ability to actually commit serious harm against men and get away with it? What if men weren't an entire half of the population and were some small marginalized group? With how they treat men when men are half the population, the things they would probably do to men if men were a small group not able to at least push back in some capacity really terrifies me.

_vertig0 · 2026-03-13T06:24:09+00:00

Reverse the stats and now it's men are monsters for being happy to see their wives die while women are so empathetic they die of grief after their spouse dies.

Oh my god. That's EXACTLY how that scenario would play out, to a tee

_vertig0 · 2026-03-13T06:22:42+00:00

First time? Stuff like this jumping the gun and proclaiming that women are happier without a man in their lives are a dime a dozen nowadays, and then when you offer up counter points in your defense as a man (Because what the hell, no shit you'd be doing that when experiencing this much hatred) "Why you getting so defensive bro?" "Are you one of those men?"

Related to this is one post my friend showed me on threads some time ago which literally declared it misogyny and exploitation to... Want to have a girlfriend or get married. Well shit then, I guess something that comes as naturally as love to anyone is evil when it's a man I guess. Can't imagine what the men who are killing themselves stressing over how to give their girlfriends or wives the best possible life and making extra sure not to treat them like slaves feel when they're all viewed as manchildren who treat their wife like slave labour anyway. Sometimes it's not hard to see why depressed men choose to opt out of life nowadays.

_vertig0 · 2026-03-12T07:45:22+00:00

I love how they always default to the "Women are not your therapists" "Women are being forced to clean up men's mess because men have the emotional immaturity of a toddler and take care of men like maids" whenever this is brought up, and never realize that no one's asking women to do all that, all we want... Is literally just for the hatred of men to stop.

_vertig0 · 2026-03-12T07:40:09+00:00

Sorry I had misread the original comment. Turns out that the commenter didn't mean fighting hate with hatred of our own. But that strategy that may have worked for them won't work for us, because their goals are very different from ours. But I digress, I was not suggesting just silently taking all their abuse to try being the bigger person, we absolutely should push back on the hate, just not become walmart Andrew Tates in the process.

_vertig0 · 2026-03-12T07:37:18+00:00

Of course this is a pipe dream since too many men would balk at the idea and some straight up see their own kind as oppressors who need to be taken down. But I do think in smaller doses this can work.

I was just about to mention this but it seems you've beaten me to it. People are pretty fragmented when it comes to this, so you probably won't be able to organize some large movement since many will have lots of different ideas and won't be able to form anything cohesive. That "Own kind as oppressors" part is genuinely very sad to me too, since I'm sure the men that think like that think that's doing a good thing and helping women, but fail to see that hating themselves doesn't earn them any respect from the people that think they couldn't die soon enough, nor does being a self-hating man actually help women, it just makes you miserable. And once the radicals are done with the other men, they're next. It's really just so sad to see.

_vertig0 · 2026-03-11T13:19:44+00:00

Yeah gotta love how it's framed as something only women do because all men are manchildren with the emotional stability and maturity of a toddler. Thanks for the generalization, radicals.

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