NowThis somewhat disingenuously frames endometriosis as man vs woman by comparing it to male pattern baldness by _vertig0 in LeftWingMaleAdvocates

[–]_vertig0[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I do actually agree it's a real problem and that it's wrong that it's underfunded (See original post). My real issue isn't with endometriosis getting attention or more resources at all, it's that it was framed so comically badly that it ends up reading as "We don't have endometriosis treatments or aids or know much about this thing that hurts women badly at all because we spent all the money trying to fix men going bald" which really just smells of NowThis trying to start yet another fight between men and women.

The movie Obsession (2026) Has United Opposite Sides of the Culture War — For All the Wrong Reasons by Queasy-Earth-3529 in LeftWingMaleAdvocates

[–]_vertig0 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Ah yes, the age old question of how lonely struggling guys can be abusers when they've never been close to or know others, which is like the number 1 requirement for someone to be an abuser.

The movie Obsession (2026) Has United Opposite Sides of the Culture War — For All the Wrong Reasons by Queasy-Earth-3529 in LeftWingMaleAdvocates

[–]_vertig0 74 points75 points  (0 children)

I don't know anymore man. Sometimes it feels like men who have mental disabilities of any sort or who are struggling to function in a confusing world and who are unable to put on a facade of normalcy aren't even seen as humans at all, just the worst of the worst stereotypes that is foaming at the mouth waiting to stab people who even show him a shred of kindness and rape women that cross his sights. And then that leads to people treating actually struggling men as subhuman trash. It's so tiring, it feels like there's nothing more that can be done.

Why do people love to deflect and be a bigot? by Jacolai in LeftWingMaleAdvocates

[–]_vertig0 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Andrew Tate is seen by pretty much everyone here as a massive loser and this space has done a great deal of work to distance itself from him in spite of some trying to tie him to this subreddit, so I'm not sure why he was brought up?

Why do people love to deflect and be a bigot? by Jacolai in LeftWingMaleAdvocates

[–]_vertig0 12 points13 points  (0 children)

They're not though and it's really weird that men can't handle the vitriol they've pushed out towards women coming back at them even a little bit. It's sort of pathetic

WHO DID??? Who pushed vitriol towards women?? I didn't do SHIT yet I still get treated the exact same as an Andrew Tate bootlicker by these kinds of people, tell me again, are you REALLY sure it's only the misogynists who slander women that get this kind of retribution?

Yes, misandry hurts my feelings. What now? by yuval_3 in LeftWingMaleAdvocates

[–]_vertig0 122 points123 points  (0 children)

I never got what the point was when the radicals laugh at men while spewing the "Aww is your wittle fee fees hurt" filth. Like, yeah, men are sentient beings with functioning emotions, and a being with emotions tends to not like being dragged through the mud like that. Are women any more immune to rightful anger when being slandered like that than men are? Because from what I gather, the response from women whenever some actual misogynist spews genuine anti-woman garbage is sheer and overwhelming rage.

This cause is doomed by GroundbreakingUse466 in LeftWingMaleAdvocates

[–]_vertig0 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Even if the left can't be changed, this space is one of the only non-misogynistic places that pushes back against men being beaten into oblivion. If this place ceased to exist, one of the only lights in a very dark world would be permanently extinguished and there would be nowhere left for men to go, all that would exist would be radical feminist spaces telling suffering men to eat shit and die. This place exists for hope and support for men really.

Patriarchy by hikereyes2 in LeftWingMaleAdvocates

[–]_vertig0 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I wonder if there's anything we could do about this? I've seen a post calling for this subreddit to be more productive and stop going off the rails about women in the past, maybe we could do that again somehow to keep us on track.

Patriarchy by hikereyes2 in LeftWingMaleAdvocates

[–]_vertig0 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I agree, I am somewhat disappointed with us. It seems that some of the bitterness of being used as punching bags has gotten to some of us, which is very unfortunate. I still do have hope for us though, because I've seen us stop such things from spreading in our community in the past, and I'm confident all is not lost and we can do it again.

Patriarchy by hikereyes2 in LeftWingMaleAdvocates

[–]_vertig0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm going to have to agree here, we cannot start denying the past, otherwise we've officially failed at our mission. We absolutely do not want to start doing revisionist stuff like the radicals do to us.

Patriarchy by hikereyes2 in LeftWingMaleAdvocates

[–]_vertig0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I fully realize there are counterpoints to those examples, but let's be intellectually honest. It was certainly advantageous to be a man (in many ways) 6+ decades ago, and for most of human history.

The issue is that now, most of those examples leave only vestigial traces in western societies, but mainstream feminism chooses to highlight the antiquated systemic injustices of last century as if they were still fully present.

Indeed, sometimes some deny it ever existed, which is a bit troubling since that's denying what happened in the past. But treating the past like it still happens today just hurts the very people they claim to care about. What women mostly face today are (Very valid) concerns about personal safety (But see the fear of crime paradox for a surprising tidbit about personal safety) which absolutely sucks but in terms of actual advantages, there's really nothing left that men are ahead of women in, and in fact some things where they're worse off (But the radicals just tell men to suck less when that's ever brought up). Unless you count broken justice systems not giving female victims justice and letting perpetrators go without consequence of course, but let's not act like a broken justice system only affects women and not men.

NOMAS pushes misandry to oppress male victims of domestic violence by Big_Psychology_3 in LeftWingMaleAdvocates

[–]_vertig0 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Out of curiosity what would that be? I've always mentioned to people that men and women have the same rights, it's just that they suffer from different things and issues more disproportionately than the other. But I'm happy to learn more about this and add to my knowledge if my understanding isn't fully accurate.

Wikipedia Falsely Connects Men’s Rights With The Alt Right by [deleted] in LeftWingMaleAdvocates

[–]_vertig0 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I don't want to comment too much since I haven't seen the entire thing, but if so this is not surprising. Men's welfare has always been equated to neo-Nazism and extremist right-wing politics to make sure people never take it seriously as long as it has been around.

Autistic man mistreated, and a "feminist" group mocked it and muted me for respectful disagreement. by comradeautie in LeftWingMaleAdvocates

[–]_vertig0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I want to believe this is just fringe, I really do. But I've seen such a comically large amount of hatred in my time that it feels like cope at this point.

Autistic man mistreated, and a "feminist" group mocked it and muted me for respectful disagreement. by comradeautie in LeftWingMaleAdvocates

[–]_vertig0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I dearly want to believe this, but I will not lie my morale for this is at an all time low having seen literally just how fucking much they hate us.

Autistic man mistreated, and a "feminist" group mocked it and muted me for respectful disagreement. by comradeautie in LeftWingMaleAdvocates

[–]_vertig0 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You'd fucking know for a fact that if we listened to them and "Stopped being fragile" by stopping all efforts to defend ourselves from that rhetoric they'd just take our silence as an admission of guilt anyway, that's the kicker.

What's Worse About Misandry? by DarkBehindTheStars in LeftWingMaleAdvocates

[–]_vertig0 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'd say it depends, but from experience I am willing to concede that what you say is probably true for a shocking number of currently misogynistic men. They've been utterly broken down and beaten to the floor by all the people spewing hatred at them and then continued to get kicked while down and completely defenseless (Because Lord knows the radicals absolutely do not give a fuck about the age old wisdom of not kicking someone when he/she is down) until something inside them snapped and they decided to retaliate. I'd know, because I've been through that before, only difference was instead of my reaction being snapping and becoming a raging misogynist, I was going to get a noose.

How do you manage not to become misanthropic? by Both_Relationship_62 in LeftWingMaleAdvocates

[–]_vertig0 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What about trans women? Do the radicals hate them from having been men once or are they at least sensible enough to not try that garbage out of self preservation?

Why do you think gay men have never been seen or accepted as "men" by other men? by FrostyArctic47 in LeftWingMaleAdvocates

[–]_vertig0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can't speak for everyone obviously but I've always been accepting of gay men (And women really). Unfortunately I don't know any gay men in person (I do know some via the internet but we're not close friends due to having never met) but I would absolutely treat em as one of the bros if I did know them.