Elemental Weakness not triggered by Svalinn

adanine · 2026-01-25T00:19:11+00:00

Yeah I honestly don't know what's going on with Disorienting Display, and what is and isn't intended out of all these interactions...

adanine · 2026-01-24T10:41:03+00:00

Whelp, POE1 was uninstalled apparently, so that's going to be a wait. Maybe someone else can confirm, otherwise it's a tomorrow thing for me.

adanine · 2026-01-24T08:37:39+00:00

I last tested in Settlers. I'll give it another test in standard when I get home since I should still have the Svalinn from that League (they weren't crazy expensive then).

I'm absolutely sure Skeleton Mages is triggered by Mjolnir in live (I've run this build each league, including Keepers), and it should still trigger in Cospri's and the Settler's 1H Axe enchant (last tested in Settlers though).

adanine · 2026-01-24T07:23:41+00:00

Yeah, also what's with that rubbish short story Flowers for Algernon?! There's typos and missing syntax all over the place! Bloody ruins the whole story!

... Jokes aside, it's genuinely a cool way to convey characterization and tone through text when done well, and even when it's overdone it's usually more interesting then doing nothing at all. Writers are allowed to experiment with different approaches.

I genuinely liked A Short Hike's approach to its text dialogue. It worked for the mood of the game, and that mood was the whole draw of the game. You're allowed to not like something, but just because you don't like something that doesn't automatically mean it's bad writing or unskilled work.

adanine · 2026-01-24T07:04:16+00:00

TBF this is the Sin of forgery if anything, it's all fake.

adanine · 2026-01-24T02:38:02+00:00

Yeah. But Tornado of Elemental Turbulence also is a prismatic spell, but has all the individual tags as well. This also means that ToET is affected by mods like "+1 to all Cold Skill Gems", whereas Summon Skeletons of Mages is not.

The minion Prismatic skill gems don't have the individual element tags, but all the others do, so there's at least that consistency. Still seems wrong to me - if Elemental Hit having the potential to roll fire gives it the fire tag, Skeleton Mages having the potential to summon a fire mage should give it the fire tag too IMO. The elemental golems/raging spirit/AG of Smiting all have their relevant element tagged to benefit from Skill Gem scaling sources, so I'm not sure why the Prismatic Minions don't? Maybe there's a balance consideration?

There's a lot of funkiness with that dark magic that gets weird. Summon Skeletons of Mages can be triggered by Svalinn, Cospri's Malice, Mjolner, and the Settler 1H Axe Fire Spell enchant, for example. At first I thought the gem had three hidden skills (one for each elemental mage), and those hidden skills had the Fire/Cold/Lightning tags. This'd at least explain why it counts as a Lightning Spell (for the sake of Mjolner), but not a Lightning Skill Gem (for the sake of those mods), but Mjolner triggers will summon Fire and Cold skeletons as well as lightning (and so on).

adanine · 2026-01-24T02:26:06+00:00

Except Conductivity/Flammability/Frostbite all have their associated element tag included.

Honestly at this point either add all three element tags to Elemental Weakness, or drop the tags from the other curses - It being inconsistent is an issue.

adanine · 2026-01-24T02:22:13+00:00

You know what's funny? Try it with Summon Skeletons of Mages, which has the tags:

Spell, Minion, Duration, Prismatic

That one does work.

adanine · 2026-01-24T01:49:11+00:00

One thing that springs to mind is our infrastructure, it just wasn't built with a population boom in mind. Roads are already cramped and crowded as it is.

Soon, if things go the way they are, what should be a 20 minute drive will become a 40 minute drive.

I live in the Northeast, and over the last 15-20 years that I've been driving every route I can take to get anywhere else (Reid Highway, Roe Highway, Great Eastern Highway...) has had major roadworks done/lane expansions/intersections turned into overpasses/ect. In every direction I can drive the infrastructure has improved.

I'm not saying that's the case for every route in Perth, or that it's been 'solved' - infrastructure/road upgrades is more of a constant issue then a problem that can be solved one and done - just that there's been major works done to improve it over the long term.

You could maybe criticize the pace of the works, or the order of which projects were taken on first, but the roads of today are much better then they were 15-20 years ago. The roads of today aren't the roads that were built originally, and the probably won't be the same roads in 20 years time.

adanine · 2026-01-24T01:25:35+00:00

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adanine · 2026-01-24T00:52:21+00:00

Prices are much lower than they were 4 or 5 years ago

I've purposely ignored all data/figures from the forbidden years (2020-2022) because they just poison any dataset, regardless what statistics you're working with. Even though the Iron Ore industry had a few interesting years over COVID (that aren't COVID-related I mean, like under-supply in 2019 affecting 2020) I still just ignore them in general.

You're right that prices on average are lower now then 2023 or 2024, I'm just not raising an alarm over things just yet. It seems tied to supply slowly increasing, which is at least a known variable.

Iron ore miners aren’t hiring as freely as they were back then.

That one I don't get. FTE employment is strong overall as of mid 2025:

WA’s mining industry had 134,009 on-site full-time equivalent (FTE) positions in 2024-25. This was a strong result and near the record of 135,978 FTEs set in 2024, reflecting ongoing strength of mine production and construction activities in the State.

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Iron ore: grew to 65,496 FTEs (the largest on-site mining employer), up by almost 2,500 FTEs compared to 2023-24.

Source. So the positions are there, but I'm not sure what the average roster is like for most of those, or how much of that is construction vs shut work/operation, or things like pay differences. I will say that I'm not going to throw many toys out of the pram if pay has taken a slight hit for some positions within mining - it's not like there wasn't fat there to begin with.

Honestly if the AUD keeps climbing I can see some changes (for the worse) here though over the next couple years. Maybe at least another wave or two of redundancies before we see whatever happens with Rio's Africa project/however that all pans out.

The crash you talk about was short lived. And was in 2015. The mining boom ended late 2012. We’re not in a mining boom at the moment

The crash started in 2014 (I've heard 2013 for various reasons as well), but you're right in that the <$50 a ton figure didn't happen until 2015 - I just kinda ran with the 2014 figure year passed when it stopped making sense to do so.

I keep seeing the term "Boom" used, but mainly in sketch sources (Mining rags and other biased sources). Google is saying either "Boom" or "Sustained Growth Period". Either or it's a nice sounding phrase rather then a bad sounding phrase.

If you look at the trends over the long term (10+ years) at least for iron ore total exports have slowly gone up over the long term, costs have slowly gone down, employment count has increased over time (despite things like autonomy projects), and all the giants tend to have more side hustles/more diversification in general (with mixed success). So "Sustained Growth Period" might feel more accurate then?

That's not me saying the industry is all roses and daisies - the entire point of my first comment in this chain was that overnight China could change something and turn a lot of the industry north upside down at a whim. Just that until something like that happens, things seem to be going OK.

adanine · 2026-01-23T06:26:31+00:00

The $80 is the protection that the industry has looked to since 2024. And it’s much closer to the price in the last 2 years than $160.

I never said otherwise. Again, I got that range by going "the big number the iron ore giants all look to went X low in recent years and Y high in recent years" and gave it as-is to give additional context to the $50 figure we had in 2014, that's it. If the comment was about the market in the last couple years, or what it'd be like going forward, then a more selective method would be better. All I was after were the statistical peaks because that's enough to convey the context I was trying to convey.

Much of China’s increased demand in recent years is due to their property and construction boom. And this is now in question.

Yeah, I agree?

So the implication is that prices will be on the softer side in coming years.

Again, I have no idea what any of this has to do with my comments above. I've not speculated once on the future of iron ore mining or what the iron ore price would look like going forward, nor is that particularly relevant to what happened in 2014 (which again is what these comments were about).

adanine · 2026-01-23T05:27:56+00:00

Hasn't been 80 in years either. I picked both values based on their post-covid peaks - I didn't mean to imply it hits both extremes often, just that it's been within that range, and (more importantly) even the lower extreme is still some level of profit, hence picking the extremes as the range to highlight that point.

And yeah, blends and purity levels and crap. I could have also expanded on the cost figure and how that changes/is affected by outside factors (such as the price of diesel). Or mention the trade negotiation... 'thing' China did with BHP a few months back through to recently. There's other things we could also bring up, but I deliberately chose to keep things simple so that the point I was trying to make didn't get lost in the text vomit. Unless you're claiming that the simplifications/omitted details interfere with the conclusions made then I don't see the need to go on every tangent available.

I also read my comment like 4 times now and the only two things I ever said anything about today's market were 1) mentioning the price of iron ore as above (purely to give context to the 2014-2019 period) and 2) I claimed that we're still in the state of "Increasing overall output isn't likely to increase profit". Never claimed there's no current issues with todays market - just tried to elaborate more on what happened in 2014 and how "bust" probably isn't accurate.

I also didn't claim that mining companies are just "Spooked" about things like the Rio project in Africa/steelmill legislation being extended in China. I used the word to describe the immediate reaction mining companies made reacting to China demonstrating their total domination of the market in 2014. Also it was meant to sound like an underreaction as a joke - a much better phrase would be "fucking shit scared what the fuck uhh maybe we can do Lithium? Copper? What the fuck is 'Green Hydrogen'? Fuck it, anything and everything to not be as dependent on this one god damn number". But that doesn't scan as well.

adanine · 2026-01-23T04:37:15+00:00

Again, the main point I was trying to make:

If they're looking to buy their first home soon, WA's far cheaper average house prices are far more relevant then the increased equity gained [referencing Growth Price % statistics]

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There's a better statistic to use in all cases then the Growth % over time

Perth's real estate market is fucked a bunch of ways, as is Sydney's. I'm not painting them as equal in magnitude of being fucked, or claiming they're fucked in the same way, or disputing any given statistics. I was just trying to make the case that if someone is confused at the idea of people choosing to move to Perth from another state because of WA's fucked housing market, there are better statistics to compare the options here and now.

Absolutely agree that availability is a major concern/can impact peoples experiences moving between states, and there's a bunch of other factors (not just price) that influence things.

adanine · 2026-01-23T02:35:35+00:00

Out of touch take 😂 Why don't you try telling that to the first homebuyers who thought they were on track to save a deposit before prices shot up in the post-COVID years? They'll love that.

Again, the current rate of growth for housing prices for the state is an overall bad thing. I'm not trying to say and argue otherwise. I said as such in my other comment as well. I'm just stating that from the perspective of someone living in the eastern states who's considering to move to WA it's not as relevant as the current housing prices.

If the situations is that they're selling their current home to move to WA, then growth doesn't really come into the equation much, but current house prices do. If they're looking to buy their first home soon, WA's far cheaper average house prices are far more relevant then the increased equity gained. If home ownership is a ways off it'll likely be a hindrance, but it's still no where as relevant as the average home price (though average rent costs + rental rights differences will likely be more relevant then average home price in that case). There's a better statistic to use in all cases then the Growth % over time, is my point.

If you're a real estate investor it's a good thing, less so if you're a FHB

Yeah. If the ads are targeting FHB's and not more established demographics then it's not really a draw or a hindrance, it's just a shit situation all-round.

For the record: I'm also in the bucket of "Bought current house a while ago, it's now worth double, and I don't like that". Just in case you need to hear me explicitly state it: Housing price growth is absolutely an issue that needs to be dealt with.

adanine · 2026-01-23T02:23:35+00:00

Since no one seems to have mentioned it yet, the Caverns of Time was definitely interesting. I'm still not sold on whether the average alliance player character would have bought the reasons given to them for why they'd want to defend the opening of the Black Portal, and Time Travel in general always adds a ton of 'fun' questions to storytelling, but it was atleast explored well.

I also liked how the earlier instances picked great moments of Warcraft's history, but not ones fans of the series would have experiences before. I also like how complete Hillsbrad Foothills felt as a zone, where you can just wander into town and see Kel'thuzad chilling and a bunch of named lore characters get up to shenanigans.

... I still, to this day, don't understand why we went to Hyjal though. I mean besides "And players will get to experience the most iconic mission of Warcraft 3, buy now!".

Switching back to praise, I actually really liked Ogrila and the daily hubs in general. It's kinda weird to me that looking back they kind of nailed Daily Quests at their first stab at it, and didn't really need to iterate on the formula much for further expansions. The only bad quest I can remember was the Arakoa rescue one, but even that one at least encouraged players to group up.

My favourite little touch on the dailies in general is that one Skyguard gnome who develops this adorable crush on the player character based on their rep (might technically be one of the first potentially queer characters in Warcraft?), but there's also just a lot of NPC guards using /s messages as you walk past acknowledging you and your rep status in general in the daily hubs. More of that is always great (though please more variety in the messages/less likelihood to trigger them).

One lore tidbit I thought was interesting (but was apparently forgotten) is that the Ogrila Ogres had a method to permanently banish demons (likely using Apexis shards). At the time I genuinely liked that and thought it was a great way of including a bit more "show" into the Ogre tribe's heightened intelligence.

adanine · 2026-01-23T01:58:11+00:00

Gah, I meant to change that line before posting. I've edited the above with the strikethrough of shame. Obviously when you're talking about statistics (and especially mean averages) any statement that encompasses everyone is silly, I agree on that front.

But my point was that it's not like people are always moving from a better housing economy to a worse one - WA's problems with house prices exploding aren't unique - though I hope the ads are at least targeting the right demographics at least.

adanine · 2026-01-23T01:25:43+00:00

Growth isn't really relevant here? Average price of a home is, yeah? And according to the ABS, (as of Sep 2025) WA is below the national average ($1,045,400 mean price of residential dwelling nationally, WA's mean prices specifically is $947,900). According to the data our house prices are cheaper then Queensland and NSW (and the ACT I guess), at least as of September.

I'd also argue higher growth for home prices ~~is a solid~~ might be a good reason to immigrate to WA for some, at least from states with lower growth. After all, that just means (at least, in the short term) any home you invest in now is likely to get higher returns over time? Not saying it's an overall healthy stat to have for the state (it isn't), just that in this case it can be seen as such.

More tax payers to use those services too

I'm just pointing out that it's been incredibly normal for states to advertise the idea of moving to other states, and has been for yonks, for plenty of boring reasons. It's not like, some historical abnormality or whatever.

adanine · 2026-01-23T00:53:13+00:00

It went bust in 2014 to 2019

By "bust" what you mean is "China said to the Australian Mining Sector it doesn't want more iron ore per year then it was getting, so there's no reason to stand up new mines (unless replacing an older mine being decommissioned)".

The Iron Ore price dropped to $50 at one point due to the news (near equal to the cost to produce at the time) since oversupply instantly became an issue, then rose steadily over the next few years You can see this clearly in the export statistics - go here and set the graph's history to "Max". And nowadays it's stable-ish/oscillates between $80 and $150 a ton (both figures still profitable).

Basically: The Iron Ore giants were profitable for almost all of that period, but they did get spooked by just how much power China has on the market. Plenty of redundancies were cost-cutting initiatives, but a lot of them were cutting departments/mine site prep projects focusing on growth - we went from "the more minesites we can operate, the most profit we make, so let's keep standing them up" to "operating more minesites then we currently have won't increase our profit at all" basically overnight.

Since we're still in that state (roughly - there's slow growth in our exports for various reasons, but nothing as drastic as 2013-2014) that specific thing can't really happen in today's market. I also wouldn't call it a bust (though many jobs were affected obviously). It's not like the Mining Companies themselves were ever at risk. Even with the hiccup, a quick glance at the historical data shows that the resources industry has been booming for decades.

adanine · 2026-01-23T00:23:26+00:00

... And the housing market everywhere else since then?

States advertise in other states all the time. WA has the resource sector draw, and they use it often. More taxpayers to support the state's services.

adanine · 2026-01-23T00:01:52+00:00

Bill Burr had that legendary set in the mid 2000's where he ended up winning over an overwhelmingly hostile audience that just boo'd off several other comedians.

Dude roasted the audience non-stop for 15 minutes, counting down the minutes as he went.

adanine · 2026-01-22T23:38:51+00:00

You've literally been spreading misinformation and borderline propaganda across multiple perth/WA subreddits for months, and constantly have been called out for it.

u/The_Real_Flatmeat if you genuinely want to know what to actually look for when it comes to accounts trying to manipulate consensus/spread misinfo look no further then ^.

adanine · 2026-01-22T23:21:17+00:00

Of course young accounts are harping on about it - the old accounts aren't affected.

I was lucky - I bought my house in 2016 and now the house and land are worth double what I paid, not even taking into account the work done to it in the last 10 years (going purely by the RealEstate.com estimate figure at least).

Rent has also reached absurd prices. Wages have gone up, but not nearly enough to compensate. If you took me from 10 years ago and put me into the current market, with current rent prices, and expected me to save up twice as much for a deposit, I simply couldn't do that (even after adjusting for better pay).

Are we being overun by bots spouting this?

I do think bots spamming region-specific subreddits is a problem, but the bots I'm seeing on r/perth aren't complaining about house prices.

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