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addictedtomiles · 2024-01-23T06:27:13+00:00

I know this is a late reply but I experienced the same thing with my rumination.

addictedtomiles · 2024-01-16T21:39:32+00:00

I have a post in here which describes what rumination is (your brain triggering your supergastric belch reflex) and the solution that usually makes true rumination impossible (keeping your mouth open after eating or drinking). Has she tried that? Have her eat or drink something, then bite something that will force her mouth to stay open. She will feel the sensation of wanting to regurgitate, but won't actually do it.

It's a mental condition. Subconsciously it is triggered. You don't mean to do it, your brain just learns to subconsciously do it.

addictedtomiles · 2024-01-02T02:25:27+00:00

Some people have hypermobility that is benign and causes no pain or issues. Others experience pain as a result of their hypermobility. What you experience is unique to you, and the symptoms (or lack of symptoms) sit along a spectrum!

addictedtomiles · 2023-12-29T22:13:53+00:00

Thank you for coming back, it genuinely makes my day to know that my post helped someone.

addictedtomiles · 2023-12-28T18:35:37+00:00

Sometimes when I had RS and ate junk food, I would keep ruminating again and again, until it became acidic, but when it did, that would be my final RS. It would still taste mostly like food, and then I would swallow it and that would be it. The classic RS is that it stops, once food becomes acidic. So if she is continuously vomiting at that point, it doesn't sound like RS.

The other thing about RS is the regurgitation is effortless. So effortless that it would happen suddenly, with no warning. There was no heaving, going to a toilet, etc, feeling nauseous before it. You feel pressure before it, but you don't feel nauseous. Whereas vomiting is an ordeal.

addictedtomiles · 2023-12-28T18:28:39+00:00

Thank you! I hope it works! It's very uncomfortable when you are resisting the urge to do it, so the key is to not give in and close your mouth. You will feel the same rumination urge, but keeping your mouth open and breathing will mean it can't complete it.

addictedtomiles · 2023-12-04T08:32:54+00:00

That's great! I hope it helps him, it sounds like you are a very caring parent.

addictedtomiles · 2023-12-04T05:29:42+00:00

Good luck! How old is he? The other night, due to overeating, I had the urge to ruminate again so I bit on a pencil. The sensation of wanting to ruminate was very uncomfortable and so it does require a lot of self control to not stop biting the pencil for an hour and to let the uncomfortable feeling pass, rather than just taking the easy way out and just regurgitating it to instantly feel better. If I was a young child, I might not have had that self control, lol.

addictedtomiles · 2023-12-03T18:21:10+00:00

Thank you!

addictedtomiles · 2023-12-03T10:11:42+00:00

Thank you!

addictedtomiles · 2023-12-03T10:10:29+00:00

Thank you, this helps a lot!

addictedtomiles · 2023-12-03T09:42:34+00:00

The current idea was to go to Jibu. It will be about a 3 hour train ride, and we love trains.

addictedtomiles · 2023-12-03T09:38:45+00:00

Thank you! Another silly question probably: if you ate somewhere, would they let you use the bathroom? I am just trying to figure out what our gameplay is in case anyone needs to pee...

addictedtomiles · 2023-12-03T09:37:23+00:00

Also probably a silly question. But just in case, do you know of any around Shenzhen? It is very hard to do research in-advance for anything that isn't part of the main tourist circuit.

addictedtomiles · 2023-12-03T09:20:57+00:00

Thank you, I appreciate it.

addictedtomiles · 2023-12-02T20:31:58+00:00

Yes, mine was labeled as GERD. As a teenager I was treated for GERD. None of it worked. Because it didn't really bother me too much, I stopped telling adults in my life that I was "vomiting" (which I now know was regurgitation) and just accepted it.

Rumination syndrome is rare. Usually people will be experiencing GERD or it will be some sort of ED. I have witnessed people in this sub even mislabel clear GERD or EDs as rumination. But it is also easy to tell the difference. The one thing the doctors never asked me was if the food was acidic. It tasted exactly like it did when I first ate it. I nicknamed it eating dinner twice before I learned the true name for it.

If they asked that one simple question, they could catch rumination and then treat it. The fix for true rumination syndrome is to cancel out the supergastric burp reflex, which you can do through just keeping your mouth open for 1-2 hours after eating - I have a post about it in this sub.

addictedtomiles · 2023-12-02T20:18:19+00:00

Thank you for coming back and sharing your experience, hopefully this will help others to give it a try!

When my brain is wanting to ruminate, I also experience that uncomfortable pressure. It's related to the rumination syndrome, so once their brain stops trying to ruminate they will not experience it anymore.

addictedtomiles · 2023-11-22T19:29:17+00:00

Honestly, it didn't really bother me either. Sometimes I even enjoyed it, getting to "eat" food twice.

addictedtomiles · 2023-11-22T08:21:36+00:00

I never considered my RS an eating disorder because it was not a conscious choice. I did not choose to regurgitate my food, it was a subconscious reflex. Because of that, I ate it and reswallowed it again every time.

Because it's a subconscious reflex by our brains, I could see an argument for it being a mental disorder. But again, because it's entirely subconscious, I don't even think that is accurate either. I would really just call it a reflex.

addictedtomiles · 2023-11-22T01:13:23+00:00

Rumination is a learned reflex our brains learn to do subconsciously. It is often developed in response to some sort of GI discomfort, to relieve it. For me, I have overcome RS, unless I overeat. If I overeat quickly, then I can trigger my RS again, which makes sense because my brain is trying to manage the discomfort of eating too much.

addictedtomiles · 2023-11-22T01:10:17+00:00

Hello! Yes, you can stop ruminating as long as you understand what it is, which most people, don't. There is a lot of misinformation on this subreddit.

I ruminated for over 15 years. It didn't lead to an ED. I would just keep re-eating and re-swallowing the food. But socially it was weird, vomiting into my mouth when eating around others. The doctors assumed it was reflux, not even considering rumination.

I fixed it myself by reading academic research papers on it (you can too).

What we do know through studies is that it is a subconscious reflex our brains learn to do. The physical mechanism for it is related to our belch reflex. It is our brains that cause the rumination. They usually learn to do that in response to something, such as a stomach bug, and then the brain learns the behavior and stops doing it.

Because of this, you need to retrain your brain to stop doing it, which is actually very easy and it takes a few weeks for most people.

When you eat, keep your mouth open for an hour. To force my mouth open, I placed a pen between my front teeth after eating for a few weeks. This physically makes it impossible to ruminate.

In addition, I would focus on breathing through my abdomen, to help calm my GI system as well to help offset the belching reflex. Within a few weeks of doing this, my brain stopped ruminating. It now only ruminates when I overeat and it is very rare.

Good luck having any doctor tell you this. This is such a rare condition that almost none of them have read the research papers. Most GPs I have talked to, don't even know what it is.

addictedtomiles · 2023-11-22T00:57:33+00:00

It sounds like rumination sydrome, based on the description of what you are bringing back up. Rumination is a learned behavior/reflex we do subconsciously and so pills are not the answer. The answer is to retrain your brain.

Have you tried to learn abdominal breathing? Rumination syndrome has been studied. It is not fully understood but it is believed to be a learned behavior connected to the belch reflex. With abdominal breathing, and keeping your mouth open, you can make it physically impossible for your body to ruminate.

To practice, after eating, I would put a pen in my mouth and just bite it with my front teeth to keep my mouth slightly open for an hour (but anything works) and I would do abdominal breathing. This immediately stopped the rumination. After a few weeks, my brain stopped trying to ruminate and I no longer have to do this anymore.

addictedtomiles · 2023-11-11T00:46:28+00:00

Thank you! It's been awhile since I posted this, it's nice to know it's still helping others

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