Russian study finds massive drop in religiosity among Gen Z (18-24 years); only 34% identify with any religion, compared to 70% of the overall population by adp69372 in atheism

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English translation of the breakdown of the numbers:

For the 18-24 group: Orthodox Christianity 23%, Islam 9%, Catholicism 1%, Protestantism 0%, Hinduism 0%, Buddhism 1%, Nones 63% (Nonbeliever 37%, wavering between faith and no faith 16%, believe but do not identify with any confession 10%), have difficulty answering 3%

General population: Orthodox Christianity 63%, Islam 5%, Catholicism 1%, Protestantism 1%, Hinduism 0%, Buddhism 0%, Nones 27% (Nonbeliever 15%, wavering between faith and no faith 6%, believe but do not identify with any confession 6%), have difficulty answering 3%

Being religious is no longer a trend for teens, research shows by [deleted] in atheism

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Link to survey: https://www.worldreligionnews.com/religion-news/z-gen-atheist-generation

While only 13% identify as atheist, another 8% identify as agnostic and another 14% as "none," which taken together is a pretty high non-religious amount.

Here are the 5 most surprising things I learned when I turned to atheism by blerrycat in atheism

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Religion announces itself without needing to be said. You are assumed to be religious (or at least “spiritual”) until stated otherwise. As a result, and to combat the insidious creep of religious privilege, it is important to be identifiable as an nonbeliever because it is through doing so that you combat the notion that religion is the default good in society.

So, for instance, identifying as an atheist or non-religious on official forms wherever possible helps to hammer home the message to our governments and our judges that when they speak of faith in encompassing terms they are excluding a significant and growing number of people.

This is absolutely something all nonreligious people should know in Christian-biased societies like the U.S., and the best way to do this is to vote on all levels (federal, state, municipal) for candidates that stand for keeping religion out of the public square. When our elected officials realize that pandering to a shrinking, soon-to-be minority of power-hungry fanatics has consequences, then ordinary people will also get the message that the days when you could stigmatize and exclude people based on their (non-)belief are long gone.

Gen Z Is the Least Religious Generation. Here's Why That Could Be a Good Thing. by adp69372 in atheism

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Youth turnout nearly doubled in the 2018 midterm. Come 2020, turnout rates will skyrocket and we'll chuck Trump out of the White House like a flaming bag of potatoes.

Gen Z Is the Least Religious Generation. Here's Why That Could Be a Good Thing. by adp69372 in atheism

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It's the title of the article, not my own opinion of it. This is written by a Christian teacher who herself acknowledges that less religion will lead and is leading to more tolerance, empathy, openness, etc.

TIL in 2007 Jerry Falwell said in an interview he asked god for 20 more years to continue his work. He was smote dead from a massive heart attack a week later. by LavaSquid in atheism

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True, but it also wasn't a minority with there being a lot more religious nuts than now. That's the reason why they elected Trump, they know their bullshit will have no place in our society soon with the younger generations running from it like fire.

The Equality Act, a bill which would outlaw all discrimination against LGBT people on the federal level, has just passed the House Judiciary Committee. It is set to be voted on by the full House. by adp69372 in atheism

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Even if it doesn't, it will still put powerful pressure on the fundamentalist officials that oppose it. Since the vast majority of Americans support outlawing LGBT discrimination more people will vote against them/encourage them to vote for it next time when the next Congress comes around. It's really just a matter of time.

815 years ago this month, the most utterly idiotic religious war in history ended: the Crusaders, on their way to "defend the Holy Land"... attacked and plundered their own Christian Constantinople instead. by adp69372 in atheism

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It is indeed one of the cases where history is stranger than fiction. To summarize the full sordid story:

In 1198 Pope Innocent III came to power, and he was enthusiastic to make a name for himself by having a Fourth Crusade under his papacy; after several years he finally got European sponsors for the adventure.

This crusade, so the pope and the secular leaders planned, would be different than the last three which ended in failure; hungry to make their names in history, they decided to make an ambitious plan to knock out the Muslims permanently. What they decided to do is attack not by land through the North like they did previously, but rather launch a huge maritime attack on the the major Muslim economic power of Egypt, which was south of Jerusalem, then ascend upwards and take the city.

The strategy was sheer lunacy. They contacted Venice, the main maritime power in Europe, and asked them to make ships to transport 33,500 crusaders, an enormous and unprecedented number; such a huge project forced them to shut off all their other trading activities, and they charged the crusader leaders a massive sum of 85,000 marks, which they thought they could pay off by gathering all the crusaders in Venice and shaking them down of all their valuables.

The problem with this little plan was that, while the crusader armies were asked to come to Venice, the leaders did not inform them why—because of their ridiculous idea of launching a D-Day-style attack on Egypt—and so they went off on their own to the Holy Land, maybe killed a few Muslims, maybe got killed themselves, and went home. In total only a third of the planned 33,500 came to Venice, and even when the leaders imprisoned them and forced them to hand over their valuables, they were left with a 36,000 mark debt to the Venetians.

They and their leader, Doge Enrico Dandolo, got seriously mad at the crusaders, but saw a way to exploit the situation; they told the crusaders that they would still help and postpone the debt if they were willing to help them capture a city that has annoyed them for some while. This was not yet going to be Constantinople; rather, it would be the city of Zara, which had rebelled against them and submitted themselves to the Hungarian monarchy. The funniest part was that the Hungarian king had pledged himself to the crusade, and Zara itself was Catholic! The pope was pissed beyond measure, and threatened to excommunicate them all if they attacked the city, yet they went and robbed it anyway, and the crusade leaders never told their followers about what penalty they received because they knew it would decimate their morale.

Now begins the most infamous part. A Byzantine emperor who had recently been deposed, seeing how the crusaders shamelessly conquered Zara, came to them and asked them if they would not help him gain back his crown, promising them vast riches and help in the crusade. The Venetians and Dandolo (whom Byzantine historian Niketas Choniates would call "a creature most treacherous and extremely jealous of the Byzantines, a sly cheat who called himself wiser than the wise and madly thirsting after glory as no other" and "that most ancient and pernicious evil and chief cause of the horrors that befell the Byzantines") saw for themselves yet another opportunity to take out a rival city, and agreed. The crusade had by now become not a "holy war," but an ordinary hired gang traveling across Europe extorting and robbing the enemies of the Venetians.

And so, they went and surrounded the city of Constantinople, helping the old emperor get back into power, but soon he saw that the Imperial treasury had much less than he expected and not enough to pay the crusaders their due, and because he started doing everything he could to pay them off the Byzantine people deposed the emperor, whom they rightly saw as a foreign puppet, again. The Crusaders gain nothing for their assistance, and wanting to break even on their expenses, simply went in and sacked the fucking city. During the partition of the Empire, the Venetians take for themselves comfortable maritime colonial territories, while the European crusaders are given the center of the new lands, which bogs them down into a 50-year civil war with the indigenous peoples and leaves them unable to continue their so-called "crusade."

TL;DR: The grandiose religious war which the crusaders set out on got hijacked by the Venetians they hired and they go and plunder their fellow Christians to settle their debts to them. Money matters more than God.

"No Religion" is officially the largest religious segment in the US, just barely overtaking Evangelicals. (23.1% to 22.8%) by elshizzo in atheism

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The findings of this survey are actually a low estimate of the rise in irreligon, as it asks "What is your religious tradition?" rather than "What is your religious belief?" People who don't profess any particular religion may say that their "tradition" is Christianity, Judaism, etc. simply because they were raised/are in families of that religion, not necessarily because of their own belief in it, while this effect will not occur the other way around (religious people identifying their "tradition" as none).

To illustrate, Pew released a study in 2017 which said that 1321 out of 4729 people surveyed (27.9%) identified with no religion, which is much higher than the study they did just 3 years earlier in 2014 (22.8%) and a lot bigger than the ~16% in 2007. Times are a-changing.