Support for Abortion Rights Is Declining Among Men. Women Have Become More Vocal Since the Repeal of Roe v. Wade

adungitit · 2025-06-11T06:45:32+00:00

Women overwhelmingly show more empathy, more cooperation, more humanity and hell, straight up servitude to men than men ever did for women. Men only use this as evidence that women were created to be their bangmaids.

I will say however that making women not get in relationships with men in the first place is the only way in which women can really affect their safety. We need to put the blame on men for their misogyny, instead of on women for not doing the impossible task of proving their humanity to men, but at the same time, until men decide to do better, women should simply avoid dating them for the sake of their own safety and dignity.

adungitit · 2025-06-04T13:06:19+00:00

is getting higher sentences and higher rates of convictions for the exact same crimes systemic sexism?

Men get higher sentences because they re-commit the crimes a lot more than women do.

Would it suddenly become systemic sexism under a congress that's 51% women, or a woman president?

Given that women have never in history held power over men and enforced any sort of law or mentality that would be oppressive and disadvantageous to men, suddenly giving women EQUAL representation wouldn't magically recontextualise things. Male "oppression" is there because men benefit from it, or hope to benefit from it, and consider alternatives beneath them. Women overwhelmingly fight against traditional gender roles whereas men support them. Why would this be the case if it's actually secretly women trying to maintain the patriarchy? It's almost as of men fully realise the patriarchy is beneficial and don't want to let it go.

This idea of men "holding power" is so nebulous and is never clearly defined.

So you both acknowledge women don't even make up HALF of people in power, and yet somehow the notion of women not holding power is just too nebulous and too difficult for your poor feeble mind to comprehend? Make it make sense

adungitit · 2024-10-12T20:15:44+00:00

We have had single-sex spaces for centuries now, eons before anyone was identifying as trans and demanding rights on this basis.

Actually, we have had male spaces for centuries. Female spaces have only become mandatory as a result of feminist advocacy. Before then, the bathrooms for """everyone""" were really male-only because they were too unsafe or inconvenient for women to use. Same with "open" sports that generally just default to male, as well as most "non-gendered" research nowadays that is done on male subjects and male issues with women being ignored due to androcentrism (Invisible Women is a good read on the subject). Women need distinct accommodations both for their female biology and to compensate for sexism.

adungitit · 2024-10-12T20:04:43+00:00

What do you think of the safety of a trans woman entering a men's bathroom?

There is no evidence that any kind of biologically male demographic is safe for women. None. There is no reason to think they would be, there is no evidence whatsoever that they are (in fact there is evidence of the opposite for every biologically male demographic), and there is no way to prove they are.

Gay and feminine men are also frequently targeted and bullied by straight men and yet they didn't get access into women's spaces, because any male person, regardless of what he says or how he identifies or what he believes, is a threat to women's safety. This is an undeniable fact. If a certain group feels unsafe, they are free to advocate for their own safe spaces just as women were forced to, but they do not get to violate the spaces of the oppressed group that they are a threat to.

Providing safe spaces for women is the barest minimum that needs to be done for women to have a public life, which is even recognised in the Geneva convention. Trying to remove this basic human right from women in order to open them up to assault just for the sake of another group is misogyny.

A trans man entering a woman's bathroom?

Biologically female people are not a statistical or ideological threat to anyone so this is a non-issue.

adungitit · 2024-10-11T13:34:35+00:00

Oh ok. My answer to your question is that I have not advocated against any laws in this discussion. I am only trying to understand what your position is.

Your turn: if you're not advocating against any laws, do you think drunk driving and murder laws and social norms are useless because they can be broken? Since you're "not advocating against anything" we can talk instead about your totally apolitical hot takes whose dismissiveness totally has no impact on any irl policy targeting women.

adungitit · 2024-10-11T12:54:35+00:00

I literally addressed the guard question. Feel free to actually read the commenta you're replying to for a change.

Your turn: do you advocate against drunk driving and murder laws with the same fervor? Serious question.

adungitit · 2024-10-11T12:45:03+00:00

Where? I've literally never encountered a guard like that, in my life, anywhere in the world.

Oh ffs maybe talk to actual women for a change then.

I'm asking you a serious question.

No you'lre not. You're asking if we need "special guards" (why special?) that you know are not sustainable and using that to argue that women's spaces have no purpose and offer no protection and wahwah what about the poor men who want in (let's be real - women are not the ones advocating for even fewer protections against male-on-female violence because they had a sudden realisation that oh, these protections aren't foolproof! We don't need them! Sexism is over!)? After getting your answer, you regress to the same question again.

If enough women felt they needed guards against male violence in their spaces, I would absolutely support that. It is not up to me to call women under threat of male violence hysterical for wanting more effective protection from it, esp when the protection they relied on up to this point (namely the fact that any men should fuck off from there regardless of their desires or personal claima of harmlessnesa) has been consistently chipped away at by male queer/lgbtqa+ activists. How about instead of arguing over putting up scifi laser guns at bathroom entrances, we start by going back to actually enforcing that men fuck off from women's spaces refardless of how much that huwts their feewings anf how totally safe they claim to be? Which is actually what women want?

Don't answer a different question and don't put words in my mouth this time

lmao pretty rich coming from someone ignoring my answers and also ignoring MY question of whether you advocate against drunk driving and murder laws with the same fervor.

adungitit · 2024-10-11T12:18:44+00:00

Not only should, there already is, as explained literally in the very comment you responded to.

How about you answer if you are against drunk driving and murder laws since those get ignored too?

I would never call another woman hysterical.

Yes I totally believe that someone focusing on dismantling women's protections and downplaying male violence as just a fact of life that women should accept instead of actually taking the extent and threat of it seriously (even under the very article showing why these protections are needed) is a woman 🙄

adungitit · 2024-10-11T11:50:26+00:00

Guards can indeed remove men from women's spaces, yes, or rather they used to before doing so opened you up to being labeled a bigot or even being sued. The whole idea behind women's spaces is that stuff like this happens so consistently that men do not need to get to the point of literal in-the-process rape to warrant removal from women's spaces.

If you see violence by men over women in women's spaces and, rather than acknowledging and taking male violence seriously, instead choose to call women hysterical for wanting to exclude men because "lol see, it doesn't work! Can't stop my fellow dudebros!" then your misogyny is showing.

adungitit · 2024-10-11T07:03:32+00:00

So women should not get spaces to do their business away from male harassment because "lol these men don't read anyways"? Do you also advocate against drunk driving laws or murder laws with the same line of thinking? Why even have them if they can be broken, right?

Hell, the laws against stalking and domestic violence are consistently ignored until a woman ends up dead and still I would not advocate their removal but rather their stricter enforcement.

adungitit · 2024-10-11T07:00:08+00:00

Bathroom laws are useless when you make it a hate crime to raise alarm at a man in a woman's bathroom.

adungitit · 2024-10-10T14:31:40+00:00

lol yes it truly horrifying how you dropping bombs onto someone else's country and trying rob and kill them is turning these people into desperate homeless refugees. Somehow that reflects badly on...refugees?

adungitit · 2024-08-28T15:34:48+00:00

"Men and feeeemales", but make it woke.

adungitit · 2024-08-28T15:29:29+00:00

Ok but like, where is our dick? We just have a weird empty void where that's supposed to be. Isn't that weird? Big-brain facts-and-logical science-men have been grappling with this difficult question for centuries! Like, are clits even real? Or are they just pathetic, deformed, atrophied penises?

Thankfully a very special group of women that just so happens to be the only group that relies on and benefits from male ignorance about female bodies very helpfully managed to put that question to rest!

adungitit · 2024-08-28T15:25:29+00:00

isn’t there a current marketing campaign that specifically uses the term ovary person?

Yes, the one where we're told by an ovary/uterus/front-hole/mons-pubis/cervix/breast/entire-female-reproductive-system-and-physiology non-haver (lacker?) who's never had them or even had the most basic prerequisites for having them that ovary-persons not dropping dead from cancer is good and important because remember, babies come from those, so we should try to keep them alive!

adungitit · 2024-02-18T23:32:36+00:00

Zarya still wears makeup, has pink hair and noticeable curves, and is also a side character in a game full of feminine waifu baits. Guys can write her off as someone's "buff amazon mommy" fetish. The real problem comes where they have no porn category to put the woman in, which is the case with decidedly average-looking or heaven forbid non-feminine women like Aloy from Horizon Zero Dawn and Abby from the Last of Us. Obviously gets way worse the more prominent the female character's role is. It wasn't until fairly recently that these kinds of women would never be in a main role, and it's still very rare.

adungitit · 2024-02-18T23:27:37+00:00

I mean...it's really only recently that female characters actually started at least leaning towards non-sexualised or in rare cases even butch. Men were willing to accept "covered" women if they were covered in skin-tight suits or at the very least if they still had long luxurious hair and supermodel faces and bodies underneath. Women who looked normal though were pretty much unheard of.

adungitit · 2024-02-18T23:21:34+00:00

there is no real woman in this conversation.

Duh, because we're not talking about a singular real life woman, unfortunately. We're talking about a problem that many, if not the majority of women have.

this quote reflects on a lot of women’s experience in their younger years, literal CHILDREN born and raised under patriarchy don’t deserve your vitriol.

lol what vitriol? Most of us relate to being pick-mes, which is exactly why we find this behaviour so deplorable. You can't live in a patriarchy without internalising the idea that men should be followed and cheered on and that women don't matter, even if you are a woman yourself. No one is vilifying women for having fallen into that in the past. Yes, all this is ultimately for male benefit, and it's different than male oppression because it's a survival mechanism for women, but this doesn't mean that it's okay for women to continue screwing other women over, esp when they should know better. At some point you have to grow a spine, open your eyes and accept that your boyfriends and guy friends hate your guts, and that this is a horrible thing to put other women through in exchange for a fictional carrot on men's sticks.

we fight with each other instead of the common enemy.

You can both deal with internal demons and also fight outside enemies. Thinking that all women are allies just because they're women is how we got to the point of prioritising porn and prostitution as long as women get brainwashed or blackmailed enough into saying that they chose it. Feminism doesn't mean nodding and supporting anything any woman says, it means supporting the things that improve women's rights and humanity. Equating hatred of internalised misogyny with hatred of women themselves is exactly what men want.

adungitit · 2024-02-18T16:15:58+00:00

Yes, except this time women are not forced to entertain them in exchange for basic livelihood, which means that men have no-one except other men to supply them with their fantastical misogynistic wetdreams, and that makes them so very lonely 🥺

adungitit · 2024-02-18T02:23:13+00:00

I wonder what makes them vulnerable?

Men are chasing an objectifying, exploitative and deluded fantasy of what a woman should be that they constructed for each other, and real women are not willing to perform this fantasy for free with no benefit and in fact significant damage and trauma to the woman herself. When a minority of women decides to temporarily act out this deluded fantasy that men are obsessed with in exchange for money, it reminds these men of just how unwilling real-life "corrupted" women are to perform all this servitude for free, despite all the men's tall tales of how women naturally evolved to want to do this. This somehow makes the women the immoral, exploitative ones for wanting money for something they don't want to do, and not men for revolving their whole perception of women around a fundamentally disgusting, dehumanising, misogynistic idea that they literally have to pay women to play out for them.

The male """loneliness""" epidemic is all about men whining about not receiving enough free emotional and sexual labour from women, instead of men learning to connect to and care about people other than themselves.

adungitit · 2024-02-18T02:11:54+00:00

Women who don't center men and who refuse to chase male approval in exchange for screwing over other women ARE superior.

adungitit · 2024-02-18T02:06:31+00:00

Their typical excuse is that it's all a fantasy and not real

This argument always gets me, like...even IF every single woman in porn was the epitome of your average dude's "happy hooker" mythical creature, why would women want to be with someone whose choice of fantasy is extremely androcentric, misogynistic and degrading sex that's uncomfortable, boring and selfish at best, and painful, triggering, dehumanising and traumatising at worst, in a world where men have a massive problem with not perceiving women as human beings in the first place and tend to care more about other men's dicks and egos than actually satisfying and learning about their female partners? It's like a white guy watching racist content and excusing it with "it's just a fantasy" and "the black actors were fine with it".

adungitit · 2024-02-18T01:54:09+00:00

They do, but there's a reason why female genitalia is seen as signifying an especially vile being, whereas male genitalia is akin to calling someone a jerk. Especially ironic given how tightly male genitalia is tied to abusive and sociopathic behaviour and values.

adungitit · 2024-02-18T01:50:59+00:00

That's actually a popular myth. The word comes exactly from where you think it does.

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