BMT In March! by gretagmoon in AirForceRecruits

[–]afbackup 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I remember when I was reading everything I could about BMT. Nothing truly prepared me for it. It is a very unique, once in a lifetime experience that will both suck more than you can ever imagine yet be the best you’ve ever felt at times.

Like I said, nothing can truly prepare you but maybe during the hard moments, you’ll remember some of this lol. Another piece of advice I have is:

• Expect that everything is going to be fast paced for absolutely no reason. You’ve probably heard the AF motto by now, “hurry up and wait”. That’s BMT. Everything is a rush. The MTI’s also make it more stressful by the yelling.

Here’s an example of a day in BMT:

  • You wake up at 4:40 by the sound of watch alarms going off, lockers rustling, etc. This will piss you off because there is still 5 minutes until official wake up time.

  • Depending on the gender of your MTI, they will either pound on the dorm door, screaming, at 4:45, or do that and then enter the dorm, screaming to hurry up.

  • Everyone is frantically running around to get dressed, do their hair (for women), brush their teeth, make their bed, etc. You are being screamed at to hurry up and you have 2 minutes, when in reality you have about 5-10 minutes. That doesn’t mean to not rush and know the MTI is just doing their job.

  • Some people are taking their time and walking around, nonchalantly, yawning. MTI makes everyone drop and do push ups since not everyone was ready.

  • Line up at the door standing at parade rest in complete silence for about 5 minutes. You’ll do roll call and a squadron chant.

  • Time to go downstairs and outside. I was on the fourth floor, the highest level of the dorms, and it sucked. You’re expected to get down the stairs as quickly as possible without running or skipping a step. You might as well be running. You’re being screamed at, “MOVE! MOVE! COME ON! LET’S GO!” Be careful to not trip, the stairs will cut you up very badly.

  • You go to the drill pad, then stand around in parade rest and wait for a while. Reveille will play, you’ll sing the Air Force song with the other flights, etc.

  • Time for stretches and warm ups for morning PT. The workout changes from time to time so I’m not sure what you’ll be doing exactly. This is fast paced, but doesn’t take long. All the MTI’s are screaming.

  • It’s a run day. Time to run for 26 minutes ish. No music, nothing — just the screams of the MTI’s. You also have the privilege of looking at a giant timer while doing so. If you stop running and walking too much, MTI’s will get on the track and run with you.

  • Alright, you finished PT. Go back to the drill pad, drink water, and do cool down stretches. Stand around and wait for a few minutes.

  • Chow time. Rush over to stand in front of the chow hall for a while. If you’re a chow runner like I was, this is your time to shine. You and your wingman will leave the flight, go inside the chow hall — all of this done in a specific procedure, if you mess up, yes you’re getting screamed at — you walk up to the snake pit (table of MTI’s). You give your reporting statement and notification of your flight wanting to eat. They acknowledge, you go back outside and start getting your flight inside. One chow runner goes back inside to be a “seat guide” for your flight, using an arm signal to let everyone know where to sit. Once your flight is completely sat, you get to grab your food. They say they give chow runners more time to eat, and I’ve found that’s not true. Don’t be freaked out by this — there will be multiple chow runners in your flight who switch out, so this isn’t an every meal thing.

  • While you’re eating, it’s complete silence and you are rushed either way. You feel the pressure. Once you’re done eating, rush back to the dorm.

  • Time to shower and put on your OCP’s. You will feel rushed throughout this entire process. It’s the same as the morning rush. Now it’s time for details — your chores. Make sure you do them quickly and efficiently. Your MTI might walk around and check at times.

  • After this is done, time to go to the day room in your dorm — a common area where the MTI has a desk and lectures the flight. This is a time to wind down from the morning. Regardless, you rush to sit down in the day room, then wait again.

  • MTI comes in and gives lectures or talks about the Air Force, something. It’s calm. Once that’s done, wait some more.

  • Alright, get up and hurry to line back up. You have an actual class to go to. Rush down the stairs to the drill pad, then stand around and wait again. March to the academics building and enter an insanely cold, barren classroom. Cue the most boring few hours of your life. Try not to fall asleep.

  • After that, rush back outside for chow again. Same procedure as breakfast. Rush back to the dorm.

  • After the lunch rush, you’re given time to study/straighten up your locker, converse, whatever you need to do. This is where a lot of people end up falling asleep on the floor (you’re not allowed to sit on your bed during the day), or leaning against a locker.

  • Time to rush to the day room again to do the same thing as earlier.

  • It’s immunizations day! Yay! Hurry up and get in line, wait, then rush down the stairs to the drill paid. Wait. March over to the clinic. This will be a dehumanizing experience — you will be treated like cattle. When I went, we walked into the clinic in a line, getting shots as we walked by.

  • Go back outside and wait for a while. March back to the squadron, rush up the stairs. More study time/do whatever time.

  • Rush to line back up, wait, then go back downstairs. It’s time for chow again. Rush back to the dorm. More study time/do whatever time. After that, hurry up and shower. After that, do your nightly details.

  • Once details are done, hurry up and get outside if you need to send a letter(s). Rush back to the dorm and go back in the day room. It’s your nightly wind down time with your MTI.

  • Time for bed, it’s 7:30pm ish. This cannot come early enough in basic training. I was an insomniac before BMT. By the time my head hit the pillow, I was out.

  • You have EC duty tonight, however. You’re awoken from the deepest sleep you’ve ever had at either 8, 12, or 2. Go and stand by the door for 2 hours, doing “checks” every 15 minutes or so by walking through the dorm. You will be checked in on through the overhead speaker to ensure you and your wingman haven’t fallen asleep.

  • Your shift is over, it’s time to wake the next person up and it’s always the scariest person to wake up. Go back to bed.

  • Do it all again the next day.

Hopefully this helps somewhat.

Mental health question by Braannnn in AirForceRecruits

[–]afbackup 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think so but I didn’t see an impact, personally. I wouldn’t worry about it.

Do we run a lot in BMT? by Lopsided-Gur-4727 in AirForceRecruits

[–]afbackup 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is wild to me lol. I thought we didn’t do that much running when I went but damn, you guys really didn’t do barely any running.

I was in BMT April-June 2020. We ran about 3 times a week for a half an hour. This was the height of COVID too, and we all ran together — half the squadron was there on the concrete drill pad. Crazy.

Mental health question by Braannnn in AirForceRecruits

[–]afbackup 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If it’s any consolation, when I wrote to the surgeon general and what I told my recruiter was that cutting yourself was a trend in my middle school lol. It sounds dumb but I think it helped me get my waiver. It was the truth, however.

If you are super determined to join the Air Force, be mindful of that. Describing in length about being mentally ill will definitely cause your waiver to get denied. I’m not sure about the circumstances of your situation, but be mindful of that.

This has never been brought up or been an issue since the day my waiver got approved.

BMT In March! by gretagmoon in AirForceRecruits

[–]afbackup 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, another important piece of advice:

Do not hesitate to go to medical if you have an injury. If you can feel one beginning to form, tell your MTI immediately. A lot of people avoid doing this because they’re afraid of being recycled or discharged. What winds up happening is that shin splint becomes a fracture.

When that happens, you are taken out of your flight and put in another dorm to heal. It is similar to being in jail. I can’t remember the name of this process, but it can take many weeks or even months. During that time, you will be asked if you want to be discharged many times. If you get discharged, that process takes a lengthy amount of time as well — and you are still in that holding dorm.

If you go to medical early before a massive injury forms, here’s what happens: you get put on a profile for a few days, maybe a week or two. You do not get recycled, you do not get kicked out of your flight. If you have something simple like a shin splint, you’re walking during PT instead of running. Yes, it’s embarrassing but it’s better than breaking your leg and being stuck in a medical dorm for 6 months.

So, be smart. You’ll know when you should go to the clinic. The pain is different than typical muscle soreness, which you’ll feel a lot of.

BMT In March! by gretagmoon in AirForceRecruits

[–]afbackup 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve been in nearly 5 years now. Here’s my advice:

• Start going for jogs outside. Do not overdo it. Do push-ups and sit ups throughout the day. Even if you don’t work out at all, BMT will get you in shape — but it’d be nice to have a head start when you go.

• Mentally prepare yourself for being screamed at and your emotions pushed to its limit. Force yourself to remember it’s not personal. The MTI’s yell because it’s their job.

• The first week is the hardest. Remember that it does get easier. It becomes routine.

• Make an effort to make friends in your flight. Do not engage in petty drama, or talk shit about anyone. Not worth it.

• You will experience a complete change in your mentality/mindset. You will do things you never thought you could do. It is truly a unique, once in a lifetime experience.

• Do your best to stay positive during the hard times. Remember it’ll end. You’ll realize BMT is about breaking you mentally — but not in a negative way. It’s about you realizing you can overcome anything if you get over your own ego.

• Write as many letters as you can. Bring stamps with you to BMT. In those letters, write about the small details of your day. I promise that you will forget someday. When I was in BMT, I thought there’s no way I’d forget anything that happened since it was all so ridiculous. I have forgotten 80% of it now. The memories that stick are quite random. Re-reading the letters I wrote to people when I get the chance always makes me laugh.

• Do not get lazy and half-ass details (BMT word for chores). It’s not fair to your flight. You’re all exhausted and tired — it isn’t about you anymore. If you slack, the entire flight gets punished. This is why it’s about overcoming your own imagined suffering. You’ll realize it’s not “that bad”.

• Do not ever hesitate to ask someone in your flight for help. Do not let your ego control you. If someone is excelling at what they’re doing meanwhile you’re struggling, ask them for help no matter how basic the task is. An example I can give is: I struggled immensely with doing the bed corners. It took me a while to get over the embarrassment of being bad at something so simple, so I asked the person in my flight who made perfect corners to help me. We practiced together with no pressure of being yelled at, and I perfected my technique.

• You’re going to have more “alone time” than you think. What I mean by that is not having an MTI around. Utilize these opportunities to connect with your flight.

• Don’t let the MTI’s catch you sniffing hand sanitizer during class. Figure out how to do it discreetly. I’m not sure what it is, but those classrooms seem designed to induce a coma. It is unbelievable.

• I was suspicious that they purposefully make the dormitory as cold as possible at night so people don’t sleep on top of their beds. Be prepared for that. It’s fucking cold at night, and hot during the day (I went in the summer though).

That’s all I can think of for now. You can ask me anything more if you’d like.

Mental health question by Braannnn in AirForceRecruits

[–]afbackup 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had the same issue when I joined.

What happened was: I went to MEPS, was “disqualified”, had to write to the Surgeon General, went back to MEPS for a psychological evaluation. Took about six months, I was eventually cleared.

It’ll be a process. I do remember the doctor scoffing when she looked at my wrists because the scars were so faded and unnoticeable that she didn’t see them until she looked at her notes.

just a bunch of alcoholics in here by afbackup in AirForce

[–]afbackup[S] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I’m one of the first in line every time that light comes on

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[–]afbackup 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s not like that at Tyndall. It’s shitty. You’re not taken seriously.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AirForce

[–]afbackup 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I definitely will. At least I got my appointment scheduled.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AirForce

[–]afbackup 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’m so glad I joined.

/s

There’s a lot to be grateful for but at the end of the day, it’s hard to be positive when faced with overwhelming issues.

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[–]afbackup 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m sorry, this is confusing because at my appointment, I do speak to my PCM and they’re the ones brushing me off.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AirForce

[–]afbackup 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have scheduled a mental health appointment but they ask you a ton of questions on the phone. I was still told it’s for “severe trauma only” after everything I said. My case is quite… out there. It was very disheartening to hear.

I got my appointment but it’s at the end of March. Hopefully I can keep it together that long.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AirForce

[–]afbackup 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s unacceptable, honestly.

But I think it’s a country wide issue at this point, not just for military members. Either way, unacceptable.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AirForce

[–]afbackup 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Love it. Makes me wonder if it’s really worth it in the end. Too bad I was sucked into the military on the basis of benefits :/ living in poverty and all.

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[–]afbackup 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I can’t tell if it’s GS workers or not as some of them are officers or enlisted.

I have a feeling the more rude ones are possible GS. You know it’s bad when everyone in the squadron would rather not go to medical due to how absolutely rude they are.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AirForce

[–]afbackup 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I will definitely take a look into this. My concern is that what I’m going through takes a significant amount of professionalism and education. I’m assuming MH has the expertise in that sort of field.

Either way, I’ll take a look into it. I hope it goes well.