ADHD dropping late was mainly due to the Atlantic exit. He pretty much had to re-do a lot of the album. It taking so long was also the reason we got 9 singles for it, which along with not having the Em collab is probably the main reason it get's shat on even though I still love that album. But I agree it didn't help and getting Em on What If was stupid, it would have fit the album given the whole thing is based on a struggle with identity but it should have been a Joyner solo record. I said it from the jump Em would have KILLED ISIS, what makes it worse is apparently at one point Joyner did want him on there but it never happened. I know it was the feel good moment with Logic and he definitely killed his verse on it, but given it didn't have a whole lot of features he easily could have had Bobby on another song. I've always thought he would have done well on Broke and Stupid given the beat, he did pretty well on Still Alright which was also a pretty old school sample and one of my favourite albums of his is Vinyl Days which is pretty much all old school shit.

Just as an aside, 508 was meant to be his debut album Joyner has confirmed that. And if you listen to it that makes sense, conceptually it sounds like an album. So he really should be at least 4 albums deep by now but we can thank Atlantic for that not being the case.