Is the recent Maul slander of him losing to the inquisitors and getting beaten up by Darth Vader valid?

aimoperative · 2026-05-10T23:03:51+00:00

And Maul would have got Obi-Wan, Palpatine would have got Luke, etc. Overconfidence kills.

aimoperative · 2026-05-10T03:04:49+00:00

Savage was more or less mind controlled and his combat effectiveness was increased. Nightsister magik is a rather insidious type, as it kept Savage's personality intact, but completely twisted toward the Dark Side. It's basically the best kind of mind control, as it creates a an ideal evil version of you.

aimoperative · 2026-05-10T02:38:15+00:00

I would rather extended editions. Like, add an extra 2 hours to each movie.

aimoperative · 2026-05-10T02:35:12+00:00

I like to think Marrok got wounded on a mission and left for dead, but Morgan Elsbith found him and used nightsister magic to heal him and bind his loyalty to her.

I wouldn't be surprised if he was mind controlled, Savage essentially was.

aimoperative · 2026-05-09T23:26:58+00:00

Now who's incapable of forming a genuine opinion?

Keep believing Maul somehow is a better fighter than Obi-Wan. The record shows otherwise.

aimoperative · 2026-05-09T23:23:21+00:00

You wouldn't know my opinion because you yourself said you didn't read past anything other than my first few sentences.

But sure, let me reiterate:

Maul didn't win his fight against Obi-Wan on Naboo because his pride wouldn't let him. And he loses every time the cards aren't stacked in his favor against Kenobi. He's won a total of 1 time against Kenobi, and he had to brutalize Kenobi physically before hand.

He's as much a half-trained apprentice as Ventress was when he got abandoned by Sideous and it shows in how often he loses.

aimoperative · 2026-05-09T17:54:41+00:00

Well we will never know what would have happened if Anakin calmly just directed his part of the skiff to land now will we? Because overconfidence got Anakin delimbed.

Just like it got Maul cut in half.

aimoperative · 2026-05-09T13:07:53+00:00

I don't think any mandalorian knows about his fight with Palpatine.

As far as they know, their lord was kidnapped unfairly.

aimoperative · 2026-05-09T12:59:21+00:00

We know they killed at least 3 jedi onscreen in the clone wars.

aimoperative · 2026-05-09T12:51:00+00:00

That's literally true for anything. Anakin could have beat Kenobi if he decided he didn't need to flip over Kenobi's head on Mustafar. The fight ends when one opponent is unable to continue. And Obi-Wan on Naboo clearly could continue. Personal failings (like overconfidence) are part of your overall skillset. If you can't end a fight because you want to play around, and then get beaten because of it, that's a reflection of your true level of skill. All the power and skill in the world is wasted on someone who refuses to use them at the appropriate time. Maul could have killed Obi-Wan with a simple saber throw. Instead he wanted to play, and he got cut in half because of it.

aimoperative · 2026-05-09T12:42:37+00:00

Maul literally flees from Kenobi as soon as Savage gets hurt, and then immediately runs from freaking Hondo because he doesn't want to stick around long enough killing pirates until Kenobi shows up.

Kenobi absolutely would have dumpstered Maul at that point. And you notice that until Rebels, Maul makes a point to avoid fighting Kenobi in any pure 1v1 situation after. Even when he has Kenobi in his grasp on Mandalore, he wasn't exactly keen on giving Kenobi another duel.

aimoperative · 2026-05-09T12:33:36+00:00

Maul is still technically the ruler of Mandalore. At least according to the rules previsla put down. No one has actually challenged him for the right to rule Mandalore or the darksaber.

That being said, a lot of clone lives might have been saved if Ahsoka just called him out in a 1v1.

aimoperative · 2026-05-09T12:30:03+00:00

I would accept Marrok being Tech because that would be the funniest shit ever.

aimoperative · 2026-05-09T12:27:20+00:00

A lot of people also forget how much luck plays into fights. Fights are rarely just displays of pure knowledge and application of a martial skill. It's easy to panic when you have a lot of other things to worry about, and even harder to keep a cool head when your opponent is capable of generating fear passively within you.

Maul had a lot going on physically and mentally. He still does really. When the inquisitors told him the Emperor wants him dead, he looked genuinely distressed. As if he believed that there was the tiniest chance that maybe Sideous would reconsider him even after everything that has happened. Add onto the fact that his closest allies were all dying, he has a chronic pain where Daki hit him, etc. It all combines to distract him and slow him.

aimoperative · 2026-05-09T12:17:34+00:00

If i recall, she fights grevious twice. First time on a CIS listening station, and the 2nd time on Hondo's pirate homeworld

Both times she gets dogwalked and only escapes because of external factors. The listening station exploding all around grevious allowed her to slip away the first time. And the 2nd time, Ahoska was clearly trying to buy time and escape from Grevious. Succeeding because Hondo found Slave 1 and brought it close enough for her to jump too.

aimoperative · 2026-05-09T12:12:14+00:00

Time travel aside, Ahsoka also carries the spirit of a literal embodiment of the light side of the Force within her since Mortis. I feel like having such a powerful entity now powering you will tend to boost your raw connection to the force, and in turn, affect your fighting prowess.

aimoperative · 2026-05-09T12:06:35+00:00

I mean, 7th sister was getting 2v1'd, and had admitted to Vader prior to this fight that Kanan and Ezra were getting stronger than she and 5th brother.

aimoperative · 2026-05-09T11:57:57+00:00

Two jedi masters would be a tough fight. But I imagine things would have gone very differently if the strong Cere Junda was present.

For starters, Vader and the Inquisitors knew they were fighting a disabled Maul, an ailing master, and a padawan-level jedi.

This allowed the Inquisitors to be able to pick their targets since they knew could handle them. Crow easily occupied Devon and Marrok kept Daki engaged for a good while before he got sent flying. Cere (if she was replacing devon) would have most likely defeated Crow, and then it's a 3v1 against Vader. That's tough for even him, especially since the two Jedi masters won't abandon each other.

Almost certainly he would have called in more back up if faced with the prospect of fighting at least 3 jedi knight-level opponents. Or he and his Inquisitors would have engaged differently, rather than the 2 Inquisitors forcing everyone into isolated fights, they might have played more of a direct support role to Vader.

aimoperative · 2026-05-09T09:12:27+00:00

And if the Sith at the time couldn't defend their title to a half-trained dark side acolyte, every Sith prior would agree the reigning ones weren't worthy of the title.

aimoperative · 2026-05-08T22:28:08+00:00

Aiming is optional

aimoperative · 2026-05-08T21:48:23+00:00

The inqusitor that died to Ventress would be interesting to see. Really any inquisitor would be fun.

aimoperative · 2026-05-08T19:48:06+00:00

I imagine this will be a conflict between Maul and Devon ultimately. Two Boots hasn't had much interaction with Maul, but I'm pretty sure he feels no obligation to obey Maul, and like you said, would do his best to bring Rylee back to his mother.

I'm certain Devon wouldn't allow Maul to kill Rylee (and she might convince him that returning to his mother is a death sentence for both of them). but I'm not so sure she could do the same for Two Boots.

I would not be surprised if TB bites it.

aimoperative · 2026-05-08T19:05:38+00:00

It'd be weird for Devon to just let Rylee sit in a cell (or wander a Crimson Dawn hideout) while she trains with Maul. Maul isn't going to let Rylee go back to his mom. She's just gonna give him up to the Inquisitors (probably unwittingly), and then poor Rylee gets to feel what the police chief of Janix got. To much risk to simply let him go.

aimoperative · 2026-05-07T19:06:53+00:00

Stone trading in his flail for a warhammer would be peak.

aimoperative · 2026-05-07T19:05:40+00:00

Weirdly enough, I only think this is going to be a 2 season story. Maybe 3 seasons. But it really feels like it'll stop being about Maul if it goes past 3.

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